Marcos12
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Actuals 55.2M 3rd weekend overseas (-32.3% drop).
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Spiderverse very weak internationally, Aquaman 2 launched with bad reviews and in a universe destined to be finalized will probably have a higher OS box office than it, Spiderverse clearly does not have international appeal like other superhero franchises.
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1 hour ago, Marcos12 said:
You're right, 4.8m in US dollars, that 3 million first day that was reported earlier is wrong (maybe the 3 million were just early estimates).
Deadline just confirmed, 4.9m Opening Day in Brazil.
"Brazil dominated Thursday at No.1 with $4.9M and an 84% market share of Top 5 films, and is the biggest opening day ever for a WB title, the biggest opening day post-pandemic ahead of Spider-Man: No Way Home, the biggest opening day of 2023 ahead of both Fast X and The Super Mario Bros Movie, and the 2nd biggest opening day of all time, only behind Avengers: Endgame.".
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Barbie 1 day in Brazil above Infinity War and No Way Home, nobody expected it Lmao.
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17 minutes ago, vale9001 said:
If i'm getting right 4.8M american dollars first day in Brasil.
Bigggest first day ever after End game
You're right, 4.8m in US dollars, that 3 million first day that was reported earlier is wrong (maybe the 3 million were just early estimates).
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I've never seen TLM being big abroad, and it was strange when I saw (north Americans) members of this forum talking about this film as if it were an event, a lot putting it among the top 5 biggest BO of the year, but I also didn't expect this colossal flop abroad , only $68m OS with China and all, it's terrible, TLM won't even reach what Black Adam made OS.
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13 hours ago, Flamengo81 said:
“The Flash” Greater Salvador Region tracking: T-19
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Slower start than TLM which sold 85 tickets in it's first two days, that is not a good sign at all. I guess this will have to rely on WOM to thrive.
I don't have ticket sales or anything, but I would find it very unlikely that a movie with The Flash and Batman would have a smaller opening than The Little Mermaid in Brazil, this will only happen if the reviews and WOM are bad imo.
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23 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:
Yeah Marvel will give you that, though if this was Peter Parker and not miles, it was easy Billie.
I would doubt that, it would have to do 500m+ domestically for that, audiences in the international market are not very interested in animated superhero movies., Spiderverse 2 will be much stronger in the domestic market than OS, just like the first (and that would happen even if it was Peter and not Miles), I don't think the actors not being white has a big thing, we can see it with the Fast and Furious franchise, that it is much more successful internationally than domestically, and most of the franchise protagonists are non-white.
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58 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
Bullshit, the reviews were nothing like BvS
Critics are only a small fraction of the population, if you were to compare by critics only, Joker and Thor Love and Thunder reception is not much different , but when we look at the public opinion, we can see an abysmal difference in the reception.
I won't say that MOM has the same public reception as BVS, but it definitely doesn't have a solid reception, the reception is meh at best.
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On 5/13/2023 at 10:29 AM, SpiderByte said:
DSitMoM didn't get solid reception from audience, it was between bad/meh, have you seen how much this movie made in the opening weekend and didn't make it to 1 bi? he has similar legs to BVS, does anyone think BVS also got solid reception and legs?
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20 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Your quote is probably going to age poorly very quickly.
GTA V sales = 175 million Unts.
Best selling Zelda game ever (Zelda: Breath of the Wild) 29.8 million Unts
they're not even close...
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Funny that some people here are still in doubt, it's pretty clear that we will see one of the best WOM ever from a CBM, I doubt it will happen otherwise, very good (and reliable) sources say this, WB is showing months before it goes to cinemas, there's no doubt the reception this film will get.
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8 minutes ago, PlatnumRoyce said:
Sure, but GotG2 was only relying on raised awareness/interest from GotG1 while all other MCU sequels have benefited from an Avengers crossover to massively boost baseline awareness. IW/Endgame still reached more casual viewers than Guardians which may help deter the headwinds of this being a long delayed sequel.
The problem with the GOTG franchise is the international market, they are much stronger domestically, OS never showed the same strength, not even when MCU was at its peak, OS audience is not a big fan of movies in space, even Star Wars has this problem too , and GOTG is not strong even in the OS countries where Star wars is very strong (like Japan, some big markets in Europe), I would be extremely surprised if GOTG 3 hits 1 billion.
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It will probably make $500m less than the previous movie, I think it's the biggest sequel BO drop in the history of superhero movies ( I don't count movies released during the apex of pandemic period like WW84, for obvious reasons).
If Black Panther with good reviews and word of mouth can only reach around $830m WW, there's no way a movie like Marvels (which I doubt will have better WOM) makes more than $700m WW, I think only Aquaman 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 (among superhero movies) have a good chance of making $800m+ WW in 2023, and I wouldn't be surprised if they both fail to hit $800m+ too.
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1 hour ago, Krissykins said:
Very few of the superhero movies make profit from theatrical box office alone though.
Shang Chi was thrown around as a comparison earlier. That cost $150-200m and made $430m. Isn’t that allegedly getting a sequel?
Shang Chi (Almost Certainly) Gave Disney a Financial Loss...
I can't say I'm sad about the (likely) Black Adam Flop, this will be good because it will show studios that the general public doesn't give a f#c# about fanboys' opinions on social media, and trying to please fanboys online (like The Rock did) ), doesn't work.
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She-Hulk has 5.1/10 on IMDB, is it really that bad, or is she suffering some sort of nerd rage/trolls attack?
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2 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:
I have got 2 words for you. 3D and Exchange Rates.
I've to check data, but safe to assume that DSitMoM is watched by more people internationally than Iron Man 3 excluding China and Russia.
Edit: Realised the convo was abt Thor 4, not DSitMoM. So mostly ignore the above. BUT I think ideally Thor 4 should have done those DSitMoM numbers atleast. DSitMoM should have done probably 20% better.
You forget about inflation and growth of the Overseas emerging markets that happened in that period, it was much harder to make 1 billion in 2013 than it is now in 2022, there's a reason why there were only 5 movies with 1 billion+ by the time Iron Man 3 was released, and now we have 50 movies that have reached that mark...
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On 7/7/2022 at 4:39 PM, Marcos12 said:
3.5 on Filmow.
https://filmow.com/thor-amor-e-trovao-t276352/
it is already behind Multiverse of Madness (3.6) and only ahead of Eternals (3.4) among MCU movies released in the last 3. 4 years. we have to remember that the number of opinions still quite small (and I don't even know if Filmow grade/reviews is really reliable, although most of the time it is), but Imo , I will be surprised if it has WOM much better than MOM.
3.2 now on Filmow, from what I've seen, it's already the worst rated MCU movie ever on FIlmow (for comparisons, Thor Dark World and Eternals 3.4, and Multiverse of Madness 3.6), when I said that TLT could have the same or even worse word of mouth than Multiverse. of madness in some countries (after seeing bad reaction from the audience in Korea and reactions of some people after premiere in Brazil), for me Brazil is one of them, from what I see TLT has an even worse reception than Multiverse of madness had in Brazil, I'm not surprised that it is already considerably below MOM on Filmow ratings (3.2 vs 3.6).
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1 hour ago, ThomasNicole said:
Not even Brazil is bad from what i'm seeing, most people are liking it a lot
On social media at least right after previews DS2 was being trashed here, Thor was positive. There was some people hating, but looks like a minority tbh.
The reviews was bad, audience reception? So far it's good.
3.5 on Filmow.
https://filmow.com/thor-amor-e-trovao-t276352/
it is already behind Multiverse of Madness (3.6) and only ahead of Eternals (3.4) among MCU movies released in the last 3. 4 years. we have to remember that the number of opinions still quite small (and I don't even know if Filmow grade/reviews is really reliable, although most of the time it is), but Imo , I will be surprised if it has WOM much better than MOM.
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If this movie has bad WOM even in the country that seems to love the MCU movies the most (South Korea), it is almost certain that it will have bad WOM in the rest of the world too, on the same level as Multiverse of Madness or even worse in some places, and the hype for Thor 4 is smaller than what MOM had, so it will also have smaller openings.
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I was already expecting these reviews, when I saw the reactions here in Brazil yesterday, and they were meh or negative even on Marvel and Disney fansite pages,..
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1 hour ago, Borobudur said:
Aside from China, which region are still waiting for the release? The split is looking like 50:50 domestic/international for 700m+ range
I'm sure it hits the $800+ million range, and there's a good chance it hits that mark even without China, the markets where The Batman is doing best have strong legs.
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It looks like it will end at around $340m WW (minus China).
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I just saw that in Brazil, HBO Max has already confirmed that The Batman will premiere on streaming here on April 17, I have no idea what impact it will have on the film legs.
Weekend Numbers | actuals | 80.01M G×K: THE NEW EMPIRE | 11.35M DUNE II
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The previous film would have almost certainly made $700m+ww if not for the pandemic+hybrid release with HBO Max.