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Liiviig 1998 started following Weekdays Thread (12/2-5) | Moana 5.7, Wicked 5.6 , Dec 09 to Dec 12 - Weekdays thread , Post-Thanksgiving Weekend Thread (12/6-12/8) and 1 other
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Dec 09 to Dec 12 - Weekdays thread
Liiviig 1998 replied to titanic2187's topic in Box Office Discussion
Moana has post TG Monday drop of 57% . Which is literally steeper drop that all the comps you have used . Sub 40% drop seems optimistic. Wish was pretty much dead by third weekend, same for strange world . Numbers for those were already small to begin with. Ralph didn't exactly light the box office either. Moana 2 was a very huge opener with OK WOM so it's still kind of dropping off. Expect Mid 40s drop pretty much In line with frozen 2 Will see but don't think it's getting to frozen 2 numbers Dom. Mufasa /sonic is going to affect this. -
Post-Thanksgiving Weekend Thread (12/6-12/8)
Liiviig 1998 replied to Skim Beeble's topic in Numbers and Data
Well I thought this was going to do 100m dom Then just saw the first trailer and it looked like the most boiler plate thing I've seen. Original LOTR is one those projects in time where everything aligned . Passionate director ,creative team,cast . All three films concurrently shot . Big risk at the time . It all paid off so beautifully. Hobbit was mediocre effort,same for the Amazon show. Can't wait for the gollum film to suck. Don't think it will ever be replicated. -
Post-Thanksgiving Weekend Thread (12/6-12/8)
Liiviig 1998 replied to Skim Beeble's topic in Numbers and Data
Honestly have no problem with the 5D tessarect . Wouldn't call it fantasy . It's more based on elements of string theory(10 dimensions existing) . Yeah the movie is grounded but we also have them going through a wormhole (theoretical) . I do agree it just feels a little too convenient and should have been place in a little better. But the whole love monologue by Hathaway felt forced and so out of place especially that they had to make a logical decision to choose which planet to go to . Then the ending showing she was right all along based on " love" was kind of annoying and forced as hell. Still an 8/10 movie. -
Post-Thanksgiving Weekend Thread (12/6-12/8)
Liiviig 1998 replied to Skim Beeble's topic in Numbers and Data
Using the wish comp . Gets it to 58m . So definitely wouldn't rule it out . Expect later updates for number to be closer to 13. If it comes in the 11 range .see like 11.5-11.7ish which should still be good for at least low 50s weekend. -
Post-Thanksgiving Weekend Thread (12/6-12/8)
Liiviig 1998 replied to Skim Beeble's topic in Numbers and Data
Wait for charlie numbers. But even Moana getting to 60m off 11-12m Friday is ehh. Using sat sun comps. Moana 48-52m weekend. Frozen 2 - 50-55M weekend Ralph2. - 49-54M weekend Frozen 2 and Ralph 2 jumped a little over 100% on Sat and sun drop range was 30-33%. -
Weekdays Thread (12/2-5) | Moana 5.7, Wicked 5.6
Liiviig 1998 replied to Migs20242's topic in Numbers and Data
This opened big . So shouldn't really worry . Still think it will do around low to mid 50s. And get past 500m. Never saw those 70m+ predictions. Especially with it's reception. -
Weekdays Thread (12/2-5) | Moana 5.7, Wicked 5.6
Liiviig 1998 replied to Migs20242's topic in Numbers and Data
Using Moana 1 as a comp seems like setting up one for disappointment. It jumped like 240% on Friday and almost 100% on Saturday. Don't see that kind of jump esp for Friday. and it was coming off like 85m five day. This had a gigantic splash. Happy with 55-60. For 70m weekend. Will need to see that fri number. Wicked 48-52m -
Weekdays Thread (12/2-5) | Moana 5.7, Wicked 5.6
Liiviig 1998 replied to Migs20242's topic in Numbers and Data
Frozen 2 was pre COVID . When tue jumps were large. Post COVID not Soo much . Wed drop will smaller than frozen 2 . So should just about even out. -
See a 3 day of around 70-75m. Even an A- is not exactly best for MCU these days( black widow). OS can go as high as 300m but even low as sub 200m. TLM had Europe to help it out . Don't think This has that advantage. Really needs WOM especially OS. Domestic side is what will prevent this from being marvels/ flash type run. Will go 185/400m.
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2023- The year of unexpected epic bombs. 2024 - unexpected over performances. 2025 just about feels like how 2024 felt at the start of the year. All the sure fire hits are in the fall, summer just about looks the same , Lilo and rebirth are expected heavy hitters, F4,elio,superman,final reckoning we don't know what we are quite getting. March kinda sucks compared to this year . 2026 is a fucking leviathan.
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Frozen 2 did gangbusters OS. But domestic was just good (19% increase). Personally found 8.5m/130m OW ehh for the kind of sequel it was even with just fine WOM. Moana is just around the same WOM but that's not detering it's OW from just exploding. IO2 ,Super Mario exploded on OW . Expect Zootopia and Shrek to do so. For some reason despite all that massive hype frozen 2 just didn't take off as expected domestically.
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So predictions for upcoming animation. Moana 2 -225/550-600/1.2-1.3B Bad guys 2 - 45/150/400m Elio -50/175/500M Zootopia 2 - 200+/600-650+/1.3-1.5B Super Mario 2 - 175/500/1.2B TS5 - 120-135/375-425/975-1.02B Shrek 5 -200-250/550-750/1.4-1.7B BTSV - 145/435/800M+ Frozen 3 -175-190/475 -550/1.3-1.4B Frozen 4 - stays flat or moderate increase from 3. Minions 3 - 350/900M+ Incredibles3 - 175/580/1.2B