Reed121
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A third Black Panther cannot rely on Chadwick Boseman, T’Challa or the goodwill of the 1st movie. I don’t think Disney will risk giving 200 million to make another Black Panther movie not starring T’Challa especially after Captain Marvel’s box office performance. A lot of Black Panther/Marvel fans and casuals are simply not watching another Black Panther movie without T’Challa
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How much is the 52m with inflation. Michael Jackson was/is bigger than Queen so that was not as big as these biopics get. I expect a Michael Jackson movie will be marketed as a concert movie. He is the most iconic performer ever. The pic they just released of his nephew playing him has huge amounts of likes on social media. The MJ musical has grossed over $170 million so far. His estate have just agreed to sell half of his song catalogue to Sony for $600m the biggest deal ever for a musician’s catalogue and they still retain control of the catalogue. The entire catalogue may be worth as much as 1.5 billion and that’s before the movie comes out. Bruce Springsteen sold his entire catalogue and control of it for 500m. David Bowie’s estate sold his for 250m. Queen are trying to sell their entire catalogue for 1.2 billion and that includes royalties from the film and theatrical productions using Queen’s music. The deal for Jackson’s catalogue doesn’t include royalties from the upcoming film, the musical and other productions. The potential for this movie exceeds any other biopic regardless of anything else.
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I see no point in continuing with Kang. He’s a flop. The public don’t care, Majors won’t play him again, he’s not a credible threat after Ant Man Quantumania and he is just underwhelming after Thanos. The stakes with him are just too low. I haven’t watched Loki s2 but I read they end it where you don’t need to continue with Kang so just don’t. Just focus on Secret Wars and bring everyone (Original Avengers, Fox X-Men, Snipes Blade, The Spider-Men etc.), bring an alternate universe T’Challa, make it an epic farewell and reboot.
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Just ok quality to make 800m? Guardians of the Galaxy 3 needed really good word of mouth to just go over that. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 made more than either Deadpool 2 and Logan worldwide. The Marvels will barely make it over 200m which nobody predicted a year ago. You have been called crazy to suggest it makes under 400m. If it was easy to not let this one have an ok reception then why did they let Multiverse of Madness, Thor 4, Ant Man 3 and The Marvels have ok or worse reception. Where’s the nostalgia? We saw Deadpool and Wolverine quite recently in their own movies.
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I know pre-sales haven’t started strong but think people are being too pessimistic. How are pre-sales compared to the first movie? The recent trailer was good and gave me the same vibe as first movie so I have a hard time believing the movie is boring or a disaster. Wan is a competent filmmaker and it has the same writer of the first movie.
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I think some people were disappointed Wakanda Forever didn’t open higher than 181m. A year later it looks incredible especially when it followed Multiverse of Madness and Thor Love and Wonder. About Deadpool 3 which cameos are going to excite people? Fox X- Men characters? We’ve already seen Stewart’s Xavier. A Wesley Snipes Blade cameo would generate more hype than X-Men characters.
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Well I believe a Black Panther 3 with Shuri as Black Panther would suffer a big drop especially overseas. Wakanda Forever made less overseas than Thor Love and Thunder when Thor had a much worse reception. People showed up to Wakanda Forever because it was the sequel to Black Panther and was sold as a tribute to Chadwick. A lot of people didn’t even know who would be Black Panther in the movie so there was curiosity with that. After the performance of The Marvels I believe there’s little chance of Shuri leading the next movie. The son somehow leading it also poses a risk.
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Totally. The interconnected nature of the MCU caused them not to delay. The sequel to one of their most successful and acclaimed movies shouldn’t have had its plot include a new unrelated character to set up the character for their Disney plus show. One of the reasons the 1st movie was so successful was that it was largely standalone. Another reason is that there were several supporting characters that people really liked from the 1st movie. It was possible to make a second movie with them. But that movie is still referencing the main character. It’s a tribute to him and still relying on him and the 1st movie. You have a problem if he’s completely absent in the next movie. He’s the anchor and draw at the end of the day.
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Were they forced them to make the movie while they were mourning. The movie could have/should have been delayed. Delay the movie, set it during the blip, put him in the chamber they put Bucky in, have him captured, lost in space etc. There were many ways to avoid killing the character. They wouldn’t kill Peter Parker. The Fast and Furious franchise managed to keep Brian alive after Paul Walker’s death. It doesn’t even make sense that some mystery disease killed him. The decisions they made with Wakanda Forever (killing T’Challa, using the movie to set up a movie, a TV show and characters not related to Black Panther) is in my opinion a reflection of the choices that has put the MCU in the state it’s in.