Not really. (I mean the positive WOM is there). But the idea that this was gonna be driven be "leisurely" viewing on weekends at PLFs was already observable in advance sales. The Wick 4 comparison was decent but Wick 4 had really only 1 weekend of PLF exclusivity. Dune 2 has 3. (Also some theaters won't be in a hurry to kick it out or will try to get it back in later).
In retrospect No Hard Feelings didn't get x2 gross but at only 45 mil it's not the kind of "money loser" to put much of a dent in the studio profits....and it's also low enough that whatever deal Netflix has with Sony probably did make it profitable.
Now if it was Amazing Spiderman 2 then yes it likely wouldn't cover it.
Oh you mean the ones that ended in 1983? I think theatrical runs and multipliers are so different then from now that it's difficult to compare.
Dune 1984 flat out bombed.
Mutant Mayhem's full global is about 180 mil so it still doesn't hit the 3x rule. Yes TMNT has a long term fanbase (which did make it viable even during the strike) but it wasn't exactly Mario during its run. I question the viability of the 3x rule if Mutant Mayhem can still manage.
For what it's worth, most animated movies that aren't Mario aren't super blockbusters at this point, so it also had that going for it.
I mean, Mutant Mayhem got a sequel and people here said that underperformed. I take what people here say with a grain of salt. Especially after the "Aquaman 2 didn't flop" fiasco.
I don't think even Variety's "numbers from opposing studios" (which are always highballs) were predicting over 85 mil.
Considering how many movies WB has liquidated this doing enough to get Messiah made is a miracle.
Who the fuck cares what Jeff Sneider says, none of his stuff has any basis in verified fact.
I think this is a pretty good result overall. The only way it would "look bad" is for people expecting 85 mil plus OW and the PLF capacity really doesn't exist for that.
I was basically worried about under 65 mil OW and that seems unlikely.
The irony is this is the closest thing to a super critical hit WB will have all year and its still getting poo-pooed on here because "it's not LOTR".
I guarantee GodzillaxKong would kill for an opening like this.
No one said they were doing that. Jat claimed a little over 11mil and the official estimate is 12 mil. Nobody gave an official estimate of 10mil except for Deadline's usual bad numbers.
What was the last super high grosser that didn't involve using PLFs in its strategy? I'd like to say Barbie but I don't remember. Other than Barbie I can't remember anything post Covid that did extremely well without a PLF push.
Really going into Rule 0 territory there but it was the people in the production studio that chose to do what they did to Barrera, not "the discourse".