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But here is the issue, unless you have admissions data how do you account for 3d share and impact on ticket prices? Avatar had a 3d share we likely won't ever see again so its average ticket price was higher than your average 2009 movie.

People are stupidly comparing it to TFA when the vast majority of schools and people were off since Christmas Eve was Thursday that year.

Lol, for people who follow box office a lot of people on this board sure hate looking at historical comps. Kids being out of school (and hence people being out of work with their kids) matters a ton. Look at the Monday drops from 2006 when the dates aligned. TLJ's drop is completely normal and actually better than Pursuit of Happyness which opened way lower and had tremendous legs (no, TLJ won't have anywhere near those legs).

That is actually a better Sunday to Monday drop than Pursuit of Happyness had in 2006. Obviously this won't have anywhere near the legs that did but its a solid number that doesn't really move the needle one way or the other.

The calendar works a little differently when Christmas and New Years fall on a Monday like they do this year. Less schools and people are off work early this week then they were even last year but you will have more people off the week of the 1st. A lot of the movies in 2006 when the calendar was similar had much smaller drops from this week to the week of the 1st than movies did last year when the calendar was only 1 day off.

Impossible with so many schools still in session.

Empirecity, for something that actually matters, Saturday still looking huge?

I don't think it will be as big as the first domestically but I think Avatar 2 will clear $2 billion worldwide and even if it doesn't reach the heights of the first there is no way that can be construed as a disappointment.

A Cincemascore. Great Comscore data. Most sites the score is high for this movie. Flixster and Metacritic are being attached by trolls so those are misleading (and there are obviously a number of people, including a number of people from this board that dislike the movie for totally legitimate reasons, but those scores are definitely not indicative of the audience reaction IMO).

4chan has apparently tasked itself with driving down scores on different sites.

There are lots of examples of this type of divergence. People were posting them early in the thread. There is no freaking conspiracy theory. My god people are fucking dumb.

So checking movietickets.com and Fandango it doesn't seem like ticket sales are slowing down at all despite the apparently somewhat divisive reaction. Will be very interesting to see how this plays over the weekend.

I agree with this. Hamill was legitimately incredible in this and I loved the other performances you mentioned. You also have 3 of the coolest scenes in all of Star Wars IMO. There was a certain storyline that if you cut 10 minutes off of takes nothing away from the plot but tightens up the movie and that alone fixes most of the pacing issues (I didn't have as much of an issue with pacing as most but there was some fat that could have easily been trimmed).

I feel like it is almost always brought up by people defending a film that has really bad legs to demonstrate that WOM isn't really that bad.

That is the same update and they added sources later in the article that point to previews being in the $50M+ range.

The RT score is definitely being brought down by fanboys who really hate the film and I don't think that score is indicative at all of the overall audience reaction at all (based on a number of message boards I read which include all sorts of different people, not just movie buffs, the audience I saw it with where it was mostly applause and people talking about how great it was with one , friends and family who saw it already, etc.) but it is also clear this isn't universally loved either and those that don't like it for the most part really hate it because of one or two main plot points.

Don't let it get to you. The vast majority of people will like this movie because it is an objectively good movie with some absolutely epic scenes but there is no doubt that it will be somewhat divisive among fans.

It easily could have been a different Avatar fanboy, I just remember a big Avatar fan along with excel predicting laughable numbers for BvS including an opening weekend as big as TFA. TLJ was never doing TFA numbers, when a movie hits the cultural zeitgeist the way that movie did a drop is inevitable (see basically every all time huge movie and its sequel, Star Wars, Phantom Menace, Jurassic Park, Avengers, etc.).

Star Wars fans are really really hardcore. I could definitely see people upset about the movie trying to torpedo it. Hell, look at some of the crazies on twitter. I do think among big fans of this series some of the choices will be at least somewhat divisive for sure, but other than one guy who left after a certain scene my audience really enjoyed it even with people definitely being a bit torn on certain elements.

So? People make dumb predictions all the time. I may be confusing you with another uber-Avatar fan who is also a big Superman fan but weren't you on board with BvS doing TFA opening weekend numbers and being one of the biggest hits of all time?

Like 10 or 11 eastern time usually.

Rogue One did $29M last year and this seems to be incredibly far ahead of Rogue One in sales.

I just did a 1 minute count rather than 5 since I didn't want to keep counting but the one minute I counted had about 360 TLJ sets of tickets.

Unless TLJ pulls a Wonder Woman (not likely and I've been thinking around $225M).

Up to 175 per minute as people on the east coast in the midwest are getting off work.