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8 minutes ago, Lor San Tele said:
Deep Wang reports that LAST JEDI has done 40% of JL's final presale total in the last 24 hours.
So around $2.5M. That seems pretty damn good especially since the pace of sales seems to be increasing.
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Just did a 5 minute Pulse check and it was selling about 103 sets per minute.
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42 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:
That would put the opening in the 225m range. That's what I am going with as well. Although it's important to mention that presales have been increasing over the years but then again TFA was such a standout even that I think people may not be rushing out to pre book TLJ comparatively so it balances out.
225 sounds good.
I think so too, if we were comparing this to a franchise other than Star Wars that would be concerning actually with the increase in presales but TFA had such huge presales Im not sure if the increase we've seen for other movies really impacts what we should expect here. Plus with reviews coming out tomorrow, if they are as good as people expect, you actually have an extra day to build additional hype about the quality of the movie. Also notable is TFA opened closer to Christmas so it's possible it's presales could have been more spread out.
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2 hours ago, Porthos said:
Just did a check and it's holding steady at around 80 per minute. Commenting more for historical comparison reasons for other super blockbusters (including Ep 9).
Presuming this thread doesn't disappear that is.
I don't think any of these are good comps but from earlier in the thread during the Monday of JL opening week the following was posted for tickets sold per minute (with JL coming in at around 20):
SM: HC: 15 avg (11am), 20 avg (3pm)
WW: 15 avg (1pm)
Thor: 13.5 (12pm)
It: 20 avg (9pm)
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Just did a 5 minute pulse tracking where the average tickets per minute (using time stamps in upper left corner) was bout 85 sets of tickets per minute. Never have looked at this before so hopefully that is accurate.
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4 hours ago, grey ghost said:
Fox's record with X-men has been very hit and miss.
I'm not exactly losing sleep that the Apocalypse cast will be rebooted or New Mutants might lose the forced and very narrow horror theme.
As long as they let Deadpool stays the same I highly anticipate how Marvel Studios will handle the source material for X-men/X-Force/New Mutants/etc.
I agree entirely. Some good stuff but also some horrible movies in there. And I'm with you on Deadpool, I hope that gets left alone although I want the rest of the characters incorporated in the MCU. I would definitely anticipate Disney and Marvel leaving Deadpool alone as well since the first movie was such a huge success and the 2nd one almost assuredly will be as well. Plus, Deadpool frankly works best on his own. The breaking the 4th wall stuff and the tone for Deadpool just works best if you aren't trying to incorporate him as part of a larger universe.
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Pulse right now
TLJ
TLJ 3D
Coco
TLJ 3D IMAX
TLJ 2d IMAX
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This looks about as bad as I feared. Maybe marketing down the road changes my mind but this movie looks like a complete waste of time. I'm sure it will still do incredibly well but I'd be shocked if there isn't a big drop from Jurassic World (which would have been a good film to end the series on but it just made way too much for that to happen).
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3 minutes ago, Darth Boh-ne'er said:
Huh? My post was me literally explaining why I think it's going to need a lot more presales.
Ok, but how is comparing Rogue One's presales to other franchises relevant at all to a discussion of how much above Rogue One's presales TLJ's should be for us to feel good about $200M.
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44 minutes ago, Darth Boh-ne'er said:
Unfortunately, we have no idea how much higher TLJ needs to be to open to $200m+.
I believe Rogue One had higher presales than anything we'd seen by about 50%(BatB, CA), yet opened lower than those. The holidays really skew the numbers since people are buying tickets for the entire holiday. Yes, there are a very larger proportion of tickets going to the OW, but I think we had a report prior(Fandango, maybe) to TFA, that said Christmas Day was one of the biggest days for presales pre-release.
In my opinion, I think for us to comfortably look towards a $200m OW, it needs to be AT LEAST 75-80% higher. Preferably even higher than that, like 100%.
Why would it have to have sales that much higher? We are comparing a Star Wars movie to a Star Wars movie that are opening at the same time of the year and roughly the same amount before Christmas.
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17 minutes ago, a2knet said:
Sorry for vague question: SW8 needs to open 29% over RO to crack 200m ow. Is tracking showing that?
Pre-sales were already 15% higher than RO's final total as of Monday so I would be pretty surprised if pre-sales don't reflect at least 29% greater opening (I suspect they will be quite a bit higher than that).
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6 minutes ago, Finnick said:
WONDER UP %74,
It looks like the jumps yesterday were just huge. Hopefully Coco had a similar jump.
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This has been my fear all along with this franchise. Where do you go after the park was opened and ultimately failed? You can't reopen it after that and anything where you just have people visiting the island is going to be largely a rehash of The Lost World and JPIII.
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3 minutes ago, YourMother said:
I don’t think $250M is happening maybe $245M.
I can't see how it gets to $250, it's lead is down to $14M over Fantastic Beasts and dropping on a daily basis with more competition coming up than Fantastic Beasts had last year. $245 would be best it can do IMO, probably $240M or lower.
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Pulse
TLJ
TLJ 3D
Coco
Wonder
TLJ Imax 3d
TLJ up to 19.9% on MT and rising quickly.
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18 minutes ago, SteveJaros said:
It's amazing how the clowns always yapper about the alleged "differences" between the massive production budget DC films and the massive budget Disney/Pixar films. Last week, some dumb soul tried to argue that even though Disney spent as much money on The Lone Ranger as WB did on Justice League, that somehow they weren't 'expecting' it to make as much money and so it didn't matter that it lost a ton of money. As if Disney isn't bound by the same investor constraints, etc. No! JL was WB's "Avengers" so it was supposed to make $600m DOM so that's a lot worse! Laughable.
Now we have a pup trying to define alleged 'differences' again, and they all add up to a gumbo of useless jabber. Bottom line is OF COURSE when Disney made CoCo they expect it to do massive box office like other Disney/Pixar animated titles, and OF COURSE it should be judged in comparison to other studio's big films like JL and to their own stable of prior animated films.
CoCo is a typical massive-budget Pixar film. It should be judged by the highest standards of box office success or failure. Period.
So let's compare JL to CoCo straight up, no more yammering about trivial, miniscule daily holds. Let's focus on what matters, the big picture of overall grosses.
You are a troll or literally one of the dumbest people in existence. Oh and let's compare Justice League to Avengers, the movie WB was trying to replicate, it's going to finish almost $400M shy of that domestically and Over $800M shy worldwide. I'm sure WB is just thrille with its performance.
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I'm interested to see the trailer. Jurassic Park is an all time favorite, Jurassic World was ok and it was fun to see the park open (although the dinosaur escape require ridiculous stupidity by the characters even by movie standards to the point it was bothersome) and the other sequels have some fun moments while not being very good overall but I just don't see where you can take this movie that would be particularly interesting. To me the militarized dinosaur angle is just dumb, you can't do another park escape, and a return to the island to research them while loose just becomes a Lost World remake.
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16 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:
Yeah think black panther will be biggest mcu entry film since iron man 1
Almost certain.
Bigger than GOTG? Doable but that's a tough mark to clear.
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7 hours ago, mredman said:
like i said the plot for IW is exactly the same as the plot for JL.
Heroes get together to defend earth against Stepenwolf and preventing him to get all mother boxes = JL
Heroes get together to defend earth against Thanos and preventing him to get all Infinity Stones = IW
Awesome, so DC rushed a poorly made film so they could copy the well developed universe and story that Marvel has been building to for about 10 years. Sounds about right.
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15 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:
Should make it to 300m. There is like zero new movies coming out in the next two weeks.It is locked unless it somehow starts having much bigger drops than it has to date. It has largely tracked Doctor Strange's drops so no reason to expect that to change and Doctor Strange earned another $25M after the same day and Thor is still beating it in the dailies pretty handily.
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The Last Jedi has been #1 on Pulse every time I've checked today with the 3D shows also being top 5. Pulse right now is:
TLJ
Coco
Wonder
JL
TLJ 3D
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5 minutes ago, mredman said:
what does he mean here ?
It is a ridiculously dumb statement. That basically says that if it holds well that it is better than if it holds poorly.
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3 minutes ago, efialtes76 said:
Yes but he was talking about the overreaction with any JL number...
JL performance is VERY bad but Monday drop is ok.
No one had said anything bad about the JL number before he brought up Fantastic Beasts. The Sunday to Monday drop is totally normal. It isn't good or bad and I'm guessing pretty much every movie will fall into that bucket.
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Pulse update:
TLJ
Coco
JL
TLJ 3D
Wonder
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
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