MovieMan89

Eh, I still think it would have been fine because there's nothing big (live action wise) besides MOS until the beginning of July. Since when is there not room enough for 2 blockbusters to do well at the same time in summer? I mean c'mon now, MOS should be big but it's no The Avengers/TDKR. We're talking about a franchise that hasn't been truly successful since the 70's. After Earth's release change is probably more to do with the fact that they know Shyamalan's movies have been falling off majorly after their OWs and so they don't want MOS to really kill it. Not cause MOS is so huge it would kill anything.

That's true but how big will After Earth really be after its OW? The fact that it's Shyamalan means it could easily fall off the cliff after Memorial Day. I don't expect it to dominate in June unless it gets surprisingly amazing WOM. I think either June 7 or its original release date would have worked a lot better. As baumer said, it's a summer feeling movie through and through.

Pacific Rim is a FAR bigger gamble than this movie was, imo. No big stars, potentially very nice audience, a director that's never had a box office success, and trailers that bring to mind Battleshit.

That would work too. Either would be better than the release date it got.

How do you figure? OW would have almost certainly been higher since its summer proper (not the middle of April) and it wouldn't have been headed straight into one of the most crowded Mays ever for high profile blockbusters. Now that After Earth has moved out of June, Man of Steel is essentially the only big live action June blockbuster. I think Oblivion would have benefited hugely from that.

OK OW for Oblivion, but I still think Universal shot themselves in the foot with it by not waiting till summer. A June release would have been perfect given the weak June lineup this year. Probably could have done 50/160 or something like that. Now I think it will struggle to break 100 because May is insanely crowded with blockbusters this year.

Top 151. Iron Man 3 - $415m 2. Despicable Me 2 - $382m 3. Star Trek Into Darkness - $317m 4. Monsters University - $315m 5. Man of Steel - $285m 6. Fast and the Furious 6 - $200m 7. White House Down - $178m 8.The Hangover 3 - $175m 9. The Wolverine - $150m 10. The Heat - $145m 11. The Lone Ranger - $142m 12. The Smurfs 2 - $125m 13. The Great Gatsby - $118m 14. World War Z-$115m 15. RED 2 - $110m International Flair #1 (WW):1. Iron Man 3 - $1,020b 2. Despicable Me 2 - $900m 3. Monsters U - $835m 4. Fast 6 - $720m 5. Star Trek 2 - $605m 6. The Smurfs 2 - $595m 7. White House Down - $585m 8. Man of Steel - $570m 9. The Hangover 3 - $560m 10. The Lone Ranger - $440mInternational Flair #2 (BEST WW WEEKEND)no gross required:1. Iron Man 3 2. Fast 6 3. Despicable Me 2 4. Monsters U 5. Star Trek 2Opening Weekend (3-day)DOMESTIC1. Iron Man 3 - $169m2. Star Trek 2 - $98m 3. Fast 6 - $93m 4. Monsters U - $92m 5. Man of Steel - $90m 6. Despicable Me 2 - $81m 7. The Hangover 3- $69m Lowest grossing films (no gross required) 1. The Purge 2. The Big Wedding 3. The To-Do List 4. The Conjuring 5. Paranoia PRE SEASON BONUS QUESTIONS 1) The Big Wedding2) The Purge3) We're The Millers4) 300 Rise of an Empire5) Mortal Instruments: City of BonesSecond Bonus Question:Tell me which of these will be the highest grossing film of the summer:1) Kick Ass 22) Percy Jackson Sea of Monsters3) Two Guns4) RIPDThird Bonus Question:Tell me, of these five films, which will be the highest grossing INTERNAIONALLY (NOT WW, ONLY INTERNATIONALLY....ALL FIGURES ACCORDING TO BOXOFFICEMOJO.COM)?1) World War Z2) Pacific Rim3) Smurfs 24) Star Trek 25) Fast and FuriousTRIPLE BONUSHere are your 16 bonus questions that have to be answered before the APRIL 26TH start date.Question 1: Will more than 2 films gross at least 130 million dollars Opening weekend domestically (3 day weekends count only)NOQuestion 2: Will more than two films gross at least 50 million dollars on opening day? NOQuestion 3: Will any film this summer have a worldwide weekend of more than 250 million? (THIS WILL INCLUDE ANY 5 DAY WEEKENDS. WHATEVER IS REPORTED FOR THE ACTUALS ON MONDAY EVENING WILL BE THE NUMBER WE GO BY).YESQuestion 4: Will any film make more than 31.5 million this summer in Australia?YESQuestion 5: Will any film make more than 45 million dollars this summer in the UK box office?YESQuestion 6: Will any film make more than 50 million in CHINA this summer?YESQuestion 7: Will at least 2 films make more than 875 mill WW this summer?YESQuestion 8: Will at least 3 films, listed as a comedy by Box Office Mojo, make more than 130 million dollars this summer?ABSTAINQuestion 9: Will at least 2 animated film have a WW gross of more than 650 million dollars?YESQuestion 10: Which combination of films will make more money domestically?1) Iron Man 3, Percy Jackson, Blue Jasmine, The Conjuring2) This is the End, Despicable Me 2, The Lone Ranger, Pain and Gain3) Star Trek 2, Wolverine, Planes, Crystal Fairy, Red 24) Grown Ups 2, Heat, Pacific Rim, World War Z, Man of SteelQuestion 11: Will any film make more than 30 million in Russia this summer?ABSTAINQuestion 12:Will the top three films combined make more this summer than the next 5 films combined (domestic only)? So to avoid any confusion like we have last summer, the question reads like this.... top 3 spots add up to more than slots 4-8.NOQuestion 13:Will any of the top 7 grossing sequels domestically this summer have a second weekend drop of less than 44.5%?YESQuestion 14:Will Star Trek, Fast Five or Iron Man have a Saturday increase (this includes any money it made on Thursday for midnights/early shows)...so if it makes 50 mill on Friday, including 7 mill from Thursday, then it has to make more than than 50 mill on Saturday to count as a yesNO Question 15:Will Monster's University be the top grossing animated film this year in any of these three regions: (so even if it is in one of them, your answer is yes)YESBonus Question of all Bonus Questions:This is a four parter:1) Will IM3 make at least 360 million domestically? YES2) Will IM3 make more than 500 million internationally? YES3) Will IM3 do at least 25 million for midnights (including Thurs)? ABSTAIN4)) Will IM3 make at least 880 million WW? YES17)A) Will any film listed as a horror OR thriller film by boxofficemojo.com gross more than 150 million dollars this summer? NO Will any film listed as a horror OR thriller film by boxofficemojo.com open to more than 40 mill? ABSTAINC) Will any film listed as a horror OR thriller film by boxofficemojo.com have a second weekend drop of less than 47%? NOD) Will any film listed as a horror OR thriller film by boxofficemojo.com have an opening day of more than 18 mill? NO

Wow, that's a fantastic Sat hold for ED considering horror movies inflated OD's.

What did her daddy dooooooooo?

Hope JP3D can hit 20m for the weekend. That would be very solid for it.

It will. Summer would be probably as strong as last year's except for one big thing: there will be no Avengers performance this year. Possibly no TDKR performance either. And fall and Holiday seasons look weaker than last year, so I see no way this year can ever catch up.

Studios are out of their freakin minds if they'd give either of them half that. Especially Carrey, He's not even worth a mil a movie these days.

Merely cross out the OS in the thread title and SUCCESS!!!!

If Oz bombs this year is going to be box office hell. Because there's no reason an appealing family flick to a starved audience should bomb, unless everything is going to bomb this year.

Yikes, didn't realize that few movies have been fresh this year. Pretty much says it all though.

What these studios should be doing is not giving risky tough sells like Jack the giant Slayer huge budgets, and just release a lot of those kinds of movies directly to video. Would solve a lot of the problem with these unappealing movies.

Not to mention Hollywood put out nothing but adult only aimed movies in Jan/Feb. If you target just one market and one market only, the box office isn't going to do well. And as far as Jack goes, it just was not an appealing looking movie at all. I thought it was on the better end of these live action fairy tale movies, but the trailers make it look like a straight to video effort and who really asked for a Jack and the Beanstalk adaptation? Yeah, no one.

Sorry but there's no way Oz can bomb. Not cause I think it looks great or anything, but general and family audiences have been so deprived this year so far that the first semi appealing flick to hit that audience will do great. And that is Oz. I mean you know that audience is starving when Escape From Planet Earth is even doing decently.

Well I enjoyed Jack better than Alice and much better than SWATH as far as these live action fairy tale movies go. It was entirely predictable, but more fun than the aforementioned movies. Deserves better considering what those two did.

DDL was my favorite speech, which was unexpected since I usually find his award speeches boring. Wasn't expecting the great comedy/heartfelt mix.

I agree, it's surprising last year's ratings were up too, but I think it was mainly due to '09 and '10 having massive box office hits that were nominated (Avatar, Blind Side, Up, TS3, Inception, True Grit) so I think that made the Oscars relevant again to a lot of people and last year's show was able to ride that wave.

All evidence to the contrary though on that last statement, since Argo and Affleck were considered out of the race and hadn't won much of anything before the Affleck snub. We could argue round and round on it and never know for sure, but how can it just be coincidental that the movie only became the frontrunner after the backlash from the snub, and then goes on to win BP at the Oscars in a manner that has never happened in modern Oscar history?

Admit it, you dozed off a few times during it.

Thank you. So yeah it really makes no sense to me. Argo is practically an anomaly in Academy history.

Aside from last year to an extent, the show has been nominating movies that people actually see since the TDK snub year, and they've been getting awarded too, so I think that's a large part of why the show is on the comeback in the ratings. That was the problem with the ratings all along. And this year the 7 that had wide releases were all bonafide box office hits. Casting someone that genuinely appealed to young audiences to host was a great move too.