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    Black Widow | July 9 2021 | ScarJo secures the bag from Disney

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    If Captain Marvel grossed 150+ million OW after the Infinity War boost, Black Widow, an OG 6 MCU member, will push 175+ million if marketed right with Endgame soul realm ties. If it's a straight up prequel with no mention of Endgame than interest could wane. If marketing features excerpts or clips from Widow recounting her life or something while being in the soul realm, than all bets are off. 

     

     

    THE LION KING WEEKEND THREAD l WITH DIGITAL FUR TECHNOLOGY | 191.8M OW (July OW Record, 8th biggest OW of all time) | Endgame beats Avatar. Disney keeps on winning! | SALE: One Month of Gold 50% Off!

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    11 hours ago, LawrenceBrolivier said:

    Not everything is a question of "stanning" or whatever.... 

    I agree with his take if only because I think at this point audiences for superhero films are a little more interested and intrigued by the promise of newer things, and newer takes on things. 

    Batman is a series that has been around for a long time now, and "new takes on Batman" is not a unique or intriguing thing, really... If a new Batman is going to make a lot of money, it has to overcome the bad taste in everyone's mouth from Snyder's take, and decades of Bat-saturation....


    Think of it this way: Batman Begins was a re-set and re-introduction of the character. A new take on the character that was essentially the first ever "real" take on the character from the comics.... and while it was a success, it wasn't a blowout success. Everyone didn't rush back all at once and give it 1989 money and attention... They waited until a very new, odd, and amazing take on Joker was placed against that Batman... and THEN it became a thing. 

    This movie is going to have to show what it has to offer audiences that they can't readily get not just from previous Batman films, but from other superhero properties currently out there. Wonder Woman, Shazam, and Aquaman are trading on that novelty, and their quality as films is helping provide extra rewards... Batman is going to be a "wait and see" proposition now... although it speaks to Batman's ability to draw that even a "wait and see" new incarnation of Batman is likely going to make Homecoming numbers. 

    I actually agree with this. I'm pretty big on Matt Reeves. His apes movies were better than most if not all MCU and DCEU/DC (they're fantastic). The franchise has broken the opening weekend record 4 times. Batman, like Spidey, is historically among the most popular comic book characters ever. The Batman's job isn't to break records; it's to get the character back in to the public's good graces (ala Nolan with Batman Begins). If Reeves' The Batman blows people away, I expect good to great legs and then the following sequel to explode, especially.

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    THE LION KING WEEKEND THREAD l WITH DIGITAL FUR TECHNOLOGY | 191.8M OW (July OW Record, 8th biggest OW of all time) | Endgame beats Avatar. Disney keeps on winning! | SALE: One Month of Gold 50% Off!

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    4 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

    As for the next $200M+ OW grossers, I think Frozen 2 has a shot and maybe TROS, but in the future, here are probabilities:

     

    90% 5vengers

    75% The Little Mermaid (if not on Memorial Day weekend and actually adds something)

    60% Black Panther 2

    35% The Little Mermaid (if on MDay)

    20% WW1984

    15% Avatar 2

    10% Jurassic World 3

     

    Note: A live action Crisis on Multiple Earth with DCEU cast, Phoenix Joker, Reeves Superman, Keaton Batman, Bale Batman and a few surprises, could take the record imho.

    If that movie was made the right way and with the right buildup (Crisis)? Nostalgia as well? That would be an interesting opening weekend. I don't know if it breaks the record but it could approach 275-300 million definitely. Reeves Superman tho? What would that be CGI? 

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    SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME WEEK THREAD l 93.6M 3-Day, 185.1M 6-Day. l ****NO SPOILERS**** | Sale $5 off Gold/Premium/Silver l Other #s - TS4 34.3, YDay 10.7, Annabelle 9.7, Aladdin 7.6, Midsommar 6.6 (10.9 5-Day)

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    I loved the Raimi Spider-Man films (Spider-Man 2 is still in my top 5 all time superhero movies) and Holland has killed it as Spidey for the MCU. Remember, Spider-Man is probably the most popular superhero of all time aside from Superman and Batman (historically***  meaning over the last 50-70 years not just within the last 10 years with the MCU heroes). The Raimi films were box office juggernauts. Even the crappy 3rd film shattered records. Coming off Endgame this could really have the "Iron Man 3 coming off Avengers" boost. So 420-475, even 500 isn't that crazy of a thought. Damn, Could Star Wars Episode 9 not even be within the top 4 domestically for 2019? o.O (hahahha jk but i mean...)

    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    3 hours ago, HeadShot said:

    Eh I don't care. The cameron fans are angry as hell because End Game is the bigger movie. They know it. The fact that EG is even at 2,7 billion after years of them saying NO ONE IS GONNA GET CLOSE  must be really bothering them. Avatar's achievement as being so much a head of every other movie in gross has been ERASED.  

    Instead of "erased" shouldn't it be "snapped?" Also, I even tho apparently Endgame is about to or in someways has already surpassed Avatar worldwide according to admissions/exchange rates/what have you, I maintain that EG fans can't truly talk **** until Avatar 2 doesn't beat Endgame. Why? Cameron has literally had the last 2 top grossing movies of all time. It took over 20 years for the 2nd movie to be dethroned, then 10 years for the current number 1 to have a true challenger. He replaced himself as number 1. Which is pretty ridiculous. Gotta give credit.

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    Fanboy Wars Thread: Personal Attacks not allowed | With Digital Fur Technology

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    This happens time and time again. Batman has a history of casting outrage. People freaked for Keaton probably worse than they're freaking now for Pattison considering the time back in 1988. He's the GOAT Batman (imo). People freaked for Heath (don't do revisionist history, I watched it as it happened. People HATED; LGBT jokes that people made, making jokes about his flop movies like the order, making fun of him being a heartthrob via 10 things I hate about you, etc), he's not only looked at as GOAT Joker but many look at him as GOAT VILLAIN in movies; at least on that tier).

     

    Affleck - Whether people liked him or not he played what he was asked to play, a Dark Knight Returns influenced Batman, and that's exactly what he did in BvS. JL doesn't count because that was a mess and he was "marvelized (not a marvel diss, i say this meaning that Batman was reduced to making tension breaking jokes- it was MCU esque, and that's just not Batman imo)" by Whedon. It was awful.

     

    Anyway - I don't like the casting (if it turns out to be true) but it was Reeves' choice; if anyone has read up on the movie Reeves asked for 100 percent creative control. This was Reeves choice not WBs. 

     

    :https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/creative-control-reportedly-brought-matt-reeves-back-batman/

    https://geektyrant.com/news/story-of-how-director-matt-reeves-reportedly-gained-full-creative-control-of-the-batman

     

    Don't believe that? Here's more from reddit lining it up:

     

     

    Reeves has full creative control over the film.Why do you think Matt Reeves exited the talks to direct the Batman in early 2017?

    A week after entering negotiations to direct The Batman, Matt Reeves has exited the talks, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.

    A studio source confirms that negotiations have broken down. The possibility, however, exists that talks could resume when heads cool. The studio is intent on making the movie no matter what, as the Batman franchise has proven to be bigger than one. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/batman-negotiations-break-down-director-matt-reeves-977266

    1 week later, Matt Reeves closed a deal to direct and produce The Batman for WB.

    There were reports Reeves wanted creative control just like Nolan had it with TDK trilogy

    Another report:

    Reeves' involvement was far from a sure thing just a few days ago. While the initial reports pointed to a deal being all but a formality, as talks continued, Reeves and Warner Bros. were reportedly at odds and the studio saw their frontrunner ready to walk. According to a new report, Reeves' issue had to do with creative freedom.

    Following the negotiations that saw him officially sign on to the project, Reeves now reportedly has "the final say on all things The Batman."

    With this control and freedom, Reeves has the ability to make the movie he intends and does not have to worry about the studio demanding changes. https://screenrant.com/batman-matt-reeves-creative-control-dceu/

    I doubt WB will demand change when Matt Reeves cast the actor he wants for the role.

     

    Everyone can (and should) make the jokes and be disappointed but with that said also be prepared to eat crow IF he kills it.

    Monday numbers: Endgame 10,7M

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    45 minutes ago, doublejack said:

    To be really accurate, Disney is attempting to sit on the big holiday release dates for almost a decade. However, not all of those dates have actual movies, yet. A2 and A3 are allegedly in post. A3 and A4 may never happen, it really depends. The greenlight on those was always contingent on A2 and A3 performance, and now Disney is calling the shots. As far as the SW films beyond SW IX, that is all up in the air. Disney may go in a different direction if the franchise continues to decline.

     

    I think the door is wide open for another player to jump in. The question is, what?

    If DC movies make a big comeback and continue to ascend ala Aquaman with 1.1 billion from December, Great WOM for Wonder Woman and critical praise for Shazam..... who knows right? 

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    Weekend Thread: Endgame 40.6M Friday, 61-62.5m Sat (per Asgard p.49)

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    7 minutes ago, OncomingStorm93 said:

    Anyone calling Endgame's box office a disappointment, or anyone saying that other people are calling it a disappointment, are only doing so to poison the well. Really, I'd like to commend those nitwits as outing themselves as bottom-feeders.

    how can anyone call Endgame a disappointment???????? It's the biggest event film of the decade lol.

    Weekend Thread: Endgame 40.6M Friday, 61-62.5m Sat (per Asgard p.49)

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    1 hour ago, SteveJaros said:

     

     

    The MCU hasn't made more money on a per-film basis. The MCU average (DOM) is $360m, the Star Wars average is $420m DOM. 

     

    And, that's not adjusting for inflation, which would work greatly to the advantage of Star Wars. E.g., The Empire Strikes Back is listed at $209m, but adjusted for inflation that becomes $884m indicating its huge popularity at the time. Even more recent films, like 1999's Phantom Menace, which sits at $431m, adjusts to a whopping $813m.

     

    Overall, adjusted for inflation, the SW franchise has the #2, #11, #13, #16, and #18 films of all time. The MCU doesn't check in on this list until #29 (Avengers), though within a week or so Endgame will surpass that.

     

    So looked at that way, it's not surprising that SW has more year-end #1 DOM winners than the MCU.

    This is what I meant about Star Wars having "peaked higher" in the US while at the same time being Surpassed handily by the MCU overseas/worldwide. It wrangled feathers at the time but I didn't mean it as an insult. It's just what the numbers portrayed. I was perhaps too hyped up by the opening weekend declaring TFA was snapped out of existence and saying MCU surpassed Star Wars in the US (my barometer was that once Endgame beats TFA's i'll give it to MCU), but for Christ's sake the movie opened to 357 million dollars. How could it NOT break the domestic record? lol. I still think it could do it or at the very least it's going to come very close.

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    Fanboy Wars Thread: Personal Attacks not allowed | With Digital Fur Technology

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    16 hours ago, carolwoodpr said:

    I work in retail.  Today was my 7th straight day.  Mind and body are dead.  Feet are killing me.  But I love my job.

     

    Saw a man wearing a Batman shirt today.  Asked if he’s seen Endgame yet.  He said he doesn’t care about Marvel.  I knew DC fans only were out there.  First time I have talked to one.

    lol. I'm a monster Batman fan myself (however I do dig Marvel as well). A BCU (A Batman cinematic universe featuring The "Bat Family" and subsequent DC characters) in terms of quality could easily become huge if it had the right architect and captain steering the ship. 

    Weekend Thread: Endgame 40.6M Friday, 61-62.5m Sat (per Asgard p.49)

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    1 hour ago, Thrylos 7 said:

    There is no “biggest film in America” in the concept of my post, it failed to pass titanic with 35 years of nostalgia, the end. Some people are acting like passing titanic WW is no big deal because this and that and in the next 100 years blah blah blah.

     

    Also all these “biggest overseas”, “biggest in the U.S”, “biggest in Luxembourg” e.t.c rankings are meaningless, biggest in the WORLD is where it is at.

    Star Wars was never as big overseas. It’s been more or less King in the states and up until recently the states ruled box office or I should say represented Box office the most compared to the world. I wasn’t surprised when TFA didn’t beat titanic. To be honest I’m even more impressed that a movie that opened to 357 mutha****ing million dollars is apparently (according to people on this forum) going to have some semblance of difficulty surpassing TFA’s domestic total; shows how much of a beast Star Wars and its nostalgia is/was in America. 

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