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not here in Germany - also not the other Fantastic 4 movies

I think at least the 'a.k.a.'-entries might be for their TV releases as the German title is added beside 'Filmdienst' (= ~ film service) says it never had a theatrical release here Not sure about the countries where a release date got added, there Germany is not listed https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073310/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_inf Question: was there a theatrical release in your country? Denmark @tawasal do you know a source? Spain @peludo do you know a source? Portugal @CJohn do you know a source? I know we have members from Sweden and Turkey too, but an not remember their actual user names

sometimes its not about better, sometimes its about if you click with the story or not. E.g. I do not click with Jaws neither (saw it in a drive-in cinema a bit after its initial release), to me its a bit boring story-depth wise, never understood why others love it so much (but I've seen it in German, sometimes dubbing can take away a lot) = not sure how to word that. Someone mentioned having seen 200+ movies out of that time, in case that was based on my list on page 2, I've seen far more, those on said list are the ones I might add on my list as being at least medium quality in my POV, or it was then considered a 'must see' for a lot of people (where I add not my thing = I did not agree to that take) or certain ages or.... = only meant as a help see release year at IMDb, less work to look it up for others or as a reminder. edit to add: I still plan to do my list, but it takes time, time is short here for the moment, I hope for next week

That was a great episode! Not a fan of how I define as the average horror, but that one I felt like it would scare in RL way more than some other ideas in media, as it takes away so much of what in RL we‘d need to organize an effectual counterattack In combination with it’s partly funny presentation a great twist with cliches and so on too

AUS has official / governmental lists per year, as I guess you are aware of as you are from Sidney? I am not at home and wont be there for a few more days, so I do not have access to my lists and links, but I think those include admissions as well, maybe ask DeeCee? I think he has those links at hand.

Thank you for the explanation I had an idea hat might be the cause ;-) Still feel 3-4 weeks should be more than enough time for that, and it would benefit the variety of lists per year

As you excluded filmed stage production I am not sure if I'll get 15 together, I am not an in general into musical gal 😉 Only bcs I am curious, do you know the movie?

According to those examples to me Bedknobs and Broomsticks would be eligible. = Because all those sung magic spells, the explanation of the 'special street', the diving deep (in double meaning) into the magical under sea world and so on. it seems to be a part of the magical part of the movie?

Isn't it a bit too long a submission time? I feel like 3-4 weeks would be more sensible for not forgetting to do a list (if something is pinned a long time some people at least might get too used to it I think), and allow for more lists all year around? But I am new to all this, so I might not be aware of something the experience taught others here?

What shall I say? Out of the 16 titles already posted only 5 are even on my top 30 list and those 5 titles include my #1 and my #2 Still, all is very interesting 😉

Not the one you asked that, but I ~ hope it to a degree too bcs it would mean the movie could be better than some rumours and whatever seem to suggest? If re-shots took place I guess the budget is higher, plus advertising, dubbing for worldwide release.... that is expensive still. If its a rather good movie, yeah, maybe first steps for getting Mutants into the MCU? Depends still on story detail if I even will 'stan' for that. We will see...

Did you forget me? 😉 I'd not berate you, but I am aware about the difference. Also about it in CMs case not being a 4-day weekend = not an enhanced Sunday, see Monday being off work. And then I am one if the ones who thinks after a certain amount of money got spend on a movie in combination of how many weeks into the release it gets even more difficult to still rein in money nowadays - I think increasingly so. Wouldn't have mentioned all of that without that remark 😉 edit: lost the @captainwondyful ping, what do you think? Did I forgot anything?

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for the average and the China detail Exhibitor Relations Co.‏ @ERCboxoffice 1h1 hour ago More China's hit animated flick, NE ZHA--which has already totaled $630M in the Middle Kingdom--opened in 66 theaters in North America this past weekend, grossing $1.1M, a terrific $17,649 per.

In my POV mostly only paid by Hollwood. One of the movies I'd even say the least made by Hollywood out of the big ones. I feel like its a bit with accents, another flair or... for music, movies, TV-series,... even if paid for by US based people, if the majority of the incolved people incl some department heads are out of other regions, the result has often an own 'accent' For a TV-series an example would be Farscape, and that one has a way more US involced crew part than LotR, but still there is a 'freshness'/ accent, something other than the usual. I still have not seen it beside a scenes and some of the intros, but I guess GoT too has that other little extra / otherness.

Orlando Bloom is from Canterbury, Kent, England, UK He lives now in London and (I think for work....) in L.A., but that addition he made only after LotR Viggo Mortensen was born in the US, but as me and others already mentioned, as he is multilingual and other reasons, he works in other countries too. He is part Danish, part American per his parents (has the citizenship for both), but lived during parts of his childhood in Denmark, Venezuela and Argentina as well. One grandparent is a Canadian, there is some Finnish or Norwegian or was it Swedish.... ancestry as well (forgot which one), he speaks / understands e.g. also Swedish, Norwegian, Italian, is in addition to Spanish, Danish, English fluent in French as well. plus speaks a bit Catalan As an adult he lived in UK, Denmark, and Spain before he moved back to the country of his birth, and lives now in Spain again. Hence the wordings like earlier, all over the world, in a way he is a 'Terran actor' 😉 Sometimes its handy to watch so many extras / hear the audio commentaries.... (I watched e.g. each and ever minute of the LotR extras, but also lots of them of other movies with and without him in it, including movies filmed outside the US. I am an extra junky, if the extras are more than pure promotion)

that is what I meant about the streaming too, on the one side it might take away from the cinemas, on the other side it might help getting people worldwide used to new 'franchises' / IPs or however to call that. With so many movies to choose from, a basis of some recognition seem to be needed for reaching people in the most of the cases. Plus I think every TV-series US audiences watches per the streaming services playing obviously not in the US might help those to open up for movies playing outside the US as well, that is another detail I read a lot about US audience reactions, at least some seem to simply not have any interest to watch anything outside their own's life-details.

I hope you'll watch it sometime, I still get goosebumps even only thinking about it.

Hence why I wrote I doubt that it will happen. I mean in 1980, as cinema was still big, in dom 161 movies got released, then a high days in release count was normal, WoM had a chance for a build up. In 2018 dom had 879 titles released in cinemas, this year its already 520 titles (and for the first time since years the average ticket price fell instead of going up, last time that happened was 1989) Can only happen if distributors / cinema owners push for some limits. But then I am afraid even less of the ones many of BOT would call 'deserving' it would make the cut. Why I mentioned it is, not sure to what kind of cinema 'landscape' all those streaming services, - and other kinds of distractions - will lead to, I think there is a possibility of a new wave of cinemas 'dyings' mid-term to long-term based on the many actual changes. Not saying it will happen in any case, just there is a possibility.

1. they are not old enough to compare, not sure if all remember both older ones out of their oung times? 2. I never found any of those 4 appealing, no matter their ages. 3. the interpretation of beauty is in the eye of the beholder 4. and Zeitgeist (see ). I think none of them would be considered in the same way today. I always prefered and still prefer inside over outside... but if outside.... then the more rough = not so sleek whatever all those men(-babies). E.g. Pitt in Thelma and Louise? Looked to me more like a ~ teen than a 'man', same counts for Depp.

I think its a question of e.g. when (= incl past), and see the ticket prices, a when (= in the future), like when the prices will balance out, then I guess the top BO of the year will look not the same. When in the past, see quote, but also, where to draw the line, as in in which year should which amount seen as a blockbuster? Certain genres always tend to earn more, others less amounts.... Out of the 'younger' movies I still consider Life Is Beautiful a huge success. The Italian movie made 'only' #20 of the all year chart here in Germany, but it tells not only a story of the past (what a lot of people wont watch), it's out of the Nazi times, I think even more difficult here, as its telling the POV of victims (even if in an atypical way) = in my POV for that kind of material a huge ww BO (and am not sure if what's to see at BOM is even correct, the movie had a ~ 2.5 years spread out release (or worse, not sure), I question at least some of the BOM data for movies like that, especially at a bit more than average tends to drip in for years for those kind of movies per all over the world. Another detail they seems to slow down the non-English movies is, see the posts others already made, the unwillingness of in especial Americans to watch dubbed or per subtitles, and....... : to many movies per country already, the US produces too many too, see one of the major reasons the smaller movies, indies,... do not get good results = gA is the carrier of the huge blockbuster hits, GA watches ~ 3-4 movies a year (some only 1), how would they even get aware about a great movie from country XY, if they do not even know which locally made movies are actual released / will soon be released = I think if a reduction per years will happen (what I doubt, see streaming now too takes away chances for a BO success for a part 1 movie), then maybe. What I can imagine is, if a movie gets big per streaming or TV (incl repeats), the part ??? movie of a team or whatever could have a chance for worldwide high placement. If, then probably if its either telling an universal story, is really special, or aimed at people who tend to use the Internet more than the average.

Viggo Mortensen (is born in the US, but as a multilingual lives and works all over the world in a way, Aragon), Liv Tyler (Arwen), Elijah Wood (Frodo), Brad Dourif (Wormtongue), and Sean Astin (Sam) are the only US actors I am sure about, the most actors are from UK, AUS, and NZ. Out of the producers... only producer Barrie M. Osborne I know he is born in the US, plus the New Line People. Howard Shore is Canadian, I think he lives in both countries. The orchestras for the score were the ones from London (UK) and NZ. One of the casting people is based in the US, the others UK, AUS, NZ again. The most or all of the others (department leads and the crew/staff) are see actors, with more weight on AUS & NZ (as in NZ an unusual huge part of them) I think a few of the stunt people might be from the US too, not sure, all of the many many others are not form the US. = beside the money and I guess less than 1%, nope, not an US cast & crew.

Cool! I am originally from Munich and mostly lived near-ish to it (as in ~ 50 miles away, some traffic jammed parts, but still doable), we were quite often in the 'Museum Lichtspiele' cinema = that's the oldest still existing cinema here (open since 1910), and runs the film since September 1977 continuous (the least was I think 2 screenings per week): They even redesigned the 'room', and encourage the audience to ~ participate during the screenings.

Deadline has its ups and downs, but that isn't a Deadline thing, that is an Anthony D'Alessandro thing. Since he seemingly managed to push out the other writers for dom (there were then some comments at social media) its gotten really bad with that.