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Yes please provide a link to such a statement, otherwise it would be a good idea to retract your statement if you do not have a link. You don't want people thinking that you made up this claim.

Thank you China for saving the box office of Genisys. Now it's highly likely we'll get a sequel.

Wow, that video of people's reaction to the JP set photo... unbelievable. There is definitely a big disturbance in the force with all the SJWs, but most here are unaware of any of this.

Yes you're right, aside from the source material, there is nothing deeply rooted into the story itself that requires the Storm family to only be white. However it would have made much more sense to make the WHOLE family black. In fact, one could argue it was "racist" to still keep Susan Storm white, since they had already made Franklin Storm and Johnny Storm black. The current modern Western culture we live in is very open to mixed-racial families, in some circles and local areas even encouraging it. So the choice of making Johnny Storm black and Franklin Storm black, but, keeping Susan Storm white was not one of racial equality, or even getting the best possible cast for the job. It was likely more so to fit into the current Western cultural trend of being open and accepting of mixed-racial families. Fox likely was trying to target all racial demographics, and at the same time be politically correct by tying in current Western cultural trends directly into the film. Additionally, anyone who reads about Trank, and has watched Chronicle, knows that he is a director who is in tune with the current cultural trends among Western young people. So it is very likely one reason Fox chose Trank for the project, was to be in tune to current cultural trends, and to generate some sort of similar appeal to young people as Chronicle had. This also would support why in the film, the Fantastic Four and Doom are quite younger than they mostly were depicted in the comics, as well as the previous films. That's part of my point. Black Panther was a character specifically created for diversity, and I appreciate and celebrate that. I see nothing wrong with that, and my example was purely hypothetical. The key here being that Black Panther was an original, new character. There is no logical point to fundamentally change some aspect of an existing character, other than just for the sake of doing it in hopes of attracting new fans, etc. However this often can and does backfire as it alienates the existing loyal fans of such a character or property. So why not simply create more, new black and other diverse characters? Yes fair point, and a point that happens to go directly against the idea that he was "the best actor for the job". You and I both know that's not really true. As you said, Jordan was hired mainly because Trank has familiarity with him, and not to mention is friendly with him. Yes he happens to hit some of the characterization marks for Johnny Storm. However they had to make changes from the source material in order to accommodate him in the film. His inclusion in the film, as mentioned above, also perfectly fits into the current Western culture and social thinking, and subsequently makes him a very politically correct addition due to the increased diversity of the cast. However, again as mentioned above, this alienates a large number of the existing Fantastic Four fanbase. Here's an idea; what if they had cast Jordan as another character, possibly a new character, to fit into the film? That way Trank still would have been working with a familiar actor, the film still would have had diversity, and it still would have been a fairly politically correct look for Fox. Also importantly, such an option would not have alienated the existing Fantastic Four fanbase. So why was that option not taken? I never claimed the casting of Jordan was just to satisfy a diversity quotient. As I explained right above, the diversity aspect was one of several reasons that Jordan was cast as Johnny Storm. That doesn't really make it a great casting choice however. If the goal was to hire the best cast for the job, well we know that's not really true. Jordan was first and foremost cast because of familiarity and friendship with Trank. If one of the goals was racial diversity or equality, they didn't really succeed either, as I mentioned above. The entire Storm family could have been made black, which would have been a stronger example of diversity and equality in comparison to the rest of the white cast. If one of the goals was to appeal to current culture and young people, there are very clear indications that such an attempt was made with the film, however this failed as the film is almost universally disliked by all audiences. Last but not least; neither you nor I know 100% what Fox was thinking, nor what Trank was thinking. However I have attempted to make some educated guesses, as explained above. Two things are crystal clear though about the film; the Fantastic Four fanbase was alienated, and the film has not connected with the general audience, who are giving the film poor ratings. I think it would be highly respectful and professional to keep out any personal comments out of discussion, in terms of knowing how Hollywood works. Unless you have worked for, currently work for, or have direct access to Fox studios, and can provide proof, as I said you don't know 100% what was going through the minds of Fox executives or Trank during the entire workflow and process for this film. I and others have made some educated guesses. Others here on the forum disagree. Personal comments are thrown around and the entire discussion degenerates. If you or others disagree, it would be wise to simply keep this respectful and focus on the conversation, not on any personal comments. Or anyone who disagrees can simply let it be.

Not logical to have a white sister and a black brother; unless of course you change that part of the story to fit the casting change and make them adopted brother and sister. One could easily hypothetically cast a white actor as Black Panther, and change the part of the story about excluding foreigners. Do you not see this comparison? No in and of itself it's not important, in a vacuum to so speak. But in the context of decades of source material, to the long-time fans yes it is important. You may not care or like it, but that doesn't make the concern of these fans disappear. Elaborate?

It's a white man in the comics. Why is Black Panther the role of a black man? This is pretty clear-cut here, I'm disappointed in you Telemachos.

1.) Just as illogical as then casting a black man to play the role of a white man, who also has a white sister. The sister and father were not made black, which would have at least made a bit more story sense. Instead the sister was kept white, and the father made black. 2.) No different than point number 1.), as casting a white man as Black Panther, according to your reasoning, would be only a little detail. 3.) So why would it be important if a white man was cast as Black Panther, according to your logic? What if they still made the white actor try and fit the story?

Don't forget Susan Sarandon as Robin. Presenting, two time Oscar-winner Hilary Swank as the next Riddler. If you don't like it, you're a "racist".

His comment perfectly generalizes complex human relationships by equating adopted siblings with biological siblings. Nice try. Everyone calling everyone else trolls on these forums just because they disagree with their opinions. Yup business as usual. Cool story, except the topic being discussed is relevance to the source material, not racial diversity. Racial diversity is a separate topic and point of discussion. I wasn't too surprised by that. He has a very "anti-establishment", contrarian, and immature sort of attitude about him. Like a petulant child in other words.

It changes the personal dynamic between them, and very often between other family members. Do you honestly need a real-world explanation of how adopted siblings different from biological siblings in their daily lives? You can look it up. There's tons of data and research on this. It also, by definition, is a big change from the source material.

You clearly have a reading comprehension problem. I said whether you like it OR not...clearly you don't like this, so you're resorting to personal attacks. Would it be "racist" if Marvel cast a white actor for Black Panther? I wonder if you and other loud minority type posters who congregate these forums would be hating and attacking then? Would you be fine with such a casting choice? Are you implying you don't care at all about what fans think? Fans who largely helped make these comic movies a reality? Do you even realize how the casting of Jordan changed the story, before attacking me? Samuel L. Jackson is an amazing Nick Fury. Racism has nothing to do with this. Go try your petty personal attacks and playing the race card on someone else. Wrong. I'm not a hardcore fan by any means. I'm explaining exactly how hardcore fans view this entire situation. You can either accept it or not. I'm a very casual Marvel fan. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/radical http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/divergence It is because by definition of the English language, it is. Nothing deeper than that. The casting of Michael B. Jordan meant that Johnny Storm could NOT be a biological brother to Susan Storm. That's not racist. That's just scientific fact. Therefore they had to change one of the fundamental story aspects of The Fantastic Four and make them adopted brother and sister. Wrong again. Nick Fury has been portrayed as BOTH a white and black man in the comics. Correction: fans rejected this first. Then the word of mouth spread, which quickly reached the general audience, and accelerated the flop process for this. Fan word of mouth is influential to the general audience. Are you going to tell me crazy loonie fan appreciation did not help push films like The Avengers?

Michael B. Jordan is one of many problems in the film. The fact is, his casting did not, in any way, help the film. His casting hindered the film. Whether you like it or not, this is a fact. There is zero evidence to show that his casting helped the film in any way. It's not about racism. This is purely about a dramatic, radical divergence from the source material. For example, casting a Latino actor would have been closer to the source material.

I love weekends like this. When the movie gods smile down upon us, and deliver absolute justice to horrible films. This is definitely worse. Batman & Robin became a cult comedic hit. So such thing will happen here. Batman & Robin is a true piece of genius comedy filmmaking. Oh and, yes, it does happen to be a bad Batman film.

Incredible film! 2nd best of the year for me so far. Solid A film. One of the best films of the MI series. Awesome acting, action, editing and cinematography, and REALLY good atmosphere and eerie feel to the film. Also a brilliant villain. Christopher McQuarrie really impressed me. I wasn't sure he could meet such high expectations after Ghost Protocol, and having seen Jack Reacher. He stepped it up though and delivered a great film. Can't wait for MI6 as well.

Awesome Terminator film, the best since T2. A- For me this was as good as T1. I thought the whole plot with Skynet's human manifestation and the alternate timelines was genius. To me it made sense. With regards to Skynet, this is the FIRST Terminator film in the entire franchise that tackles the so-called elephant in the room, that is Skynet's knowledge of time travel. Knowing how intelligent Skynet is, none of the previous films ever touched upon Skynet's understanding and knowledge of time travel. This film though does it beautifully, and it ends up as a logical progression from T2. Obviously with an A.I. as advanced as Skynet, it would eventually figure out why its time travel plots were failing, and would figure out how to outsmart the humans with regards to time travel and counter plots by the humans. This is probably why Cameron liked it. Also old Arnold lines aside, I thought all of Arnold's new lines were quite fresh, and I thought the comedy was quite good. I think everyone else did a solid acting job too, even Courtney. Initially this looked like a disaster with early marketing, but later marketing saved it I think. With the official Cameron endorsement, and the final trailers really sealing it for me.