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WKND BO: #StarTrek $70.6M/$84.1M, IronMan3 $35.2M/$337.1M, Gatsby $23.4M/$90.2M

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It no way matches the frenzy that females had for the Avengers. Females are a big reason that movie made 600M+.

 

That is what Joss Whedon and James Cameron have in common, they know how female brains work.

 

Result : they have the three biggest blockbusters WW. You can't be ginormous big without the chicks.

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That is what Joss Whedon and James Cameron have in common, they know how female brains work.

 

Resuls : they have the three biggest blockbusters WW. You can't be ginormous big without the chicks.

 

This. movies become ginormous when chicks adopt them as chick flicks. Chicks tend to watch obsessively and in groups which is lots of tickets sold.

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The fact is JJ brought Trek from the dead at the box office, he succeeded in every way.  But it is interesting when you look at tickets sold from the series.  The original cast did very well for their time:

 

Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation

Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Release 1 Star Trek Par. $274,311,200 $257,730,019 5/8/09 2 Star Trek: The Motion Picture Par. $260,212,000 $82,258,456 12/7/79 3 Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Par. $229,227,500 $109,713,132 11/26/86 4 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Par. $213,118,700 $78,912,963 6/4/82 5 Star Trek III: The Search for Spock Par. $180,708,400 $76,471,046 6/1/84 6 Star Trek: First Contact Par. $164,686,600 $92,027,888 11/22/96 7 Star Trek: Generations Par. $143,280,100 $75,671,125 11/18/94 8 Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Par. $142,092,200 $74,888,996 12/6/91 9 Star Trek: Insurrection Par. $116,707,600 $70,187,658 12/11/98 10 Star Trek V: The Final Frontier Par. $104,420,100 $52,210,049 6/9/89 11 Star Trek: Nemesis Par. $58,440,700 $43,254,409 12/13/02 12 Star Trek Into Darkness Par. $35,536,000 $35,536,000 5/16/13 TOTAL: $1,922,741,100 $1,048,861,741 - AVERAGE: $160,228,400 $87,405,145 -

 

 

"Into Darkness" has a chance to finish with the Top 3 tickets sold in Star Trek history as #2 in overall gross.  

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Is there anybody else that though about competition before those Fridays #'s? Some people had Trek at a $70M-$80M 2nd weekend and F6 and TH3 cutting each other in half, now everyones saying its Trek thats gonna suffer.

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The fact is JJ brought Trek from the dead at the box office, he succeeded in every way.  

 

He brought it back on curiosity factor but obviously couldn`t sustain the momentum and create a strong franchise.

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RE: the ending and scene

 

In WoK, Spock’s definitive declaration of friendship, and his death, are the culmination of a decades’ long relationship between him and Kirk. They both know already that Spock has always been his friend, that their friendship has defined them, but for whatever reason it’s never been said out loud. Now, in his final moments, Spock wants to say it. He wants it on the record, so to speak. But he’s only stating the obvious.This time, in the altered timeline, these two guys haven’t got that history. What they’ve got is frustration and misunderstanding and cross purposes and, for Kirk, a heads up from Spock Prime that they’re supposed to be life long friends. So he doesn’t quite get that it’s just not happening, and Spock – who’s never had a friend, doesn’t know what to do with a friend, doesn’t know how to be a friend – he’s just doing what he knows how to do, what he’s been taught is the right thing to do, and is genuinely shocked when it keeps backfiring on him. There’s a part of him that wants the friendship, knows he needs the friendship, even feels the friendship, but he’s not capable of articulating that in any way.So Kirk’s death is a catalyst, it’s the light bulb going on, it’s the you don’t know what you’ve got ’til it’s gone moment, where finally he understands. It doesn’t matter that we, the audience, know that the death won’t stick. Spock and Kirk have no reason to think it won’t. So that is a real moment for them, and it’s hugely powerful, I think. Spock’s death in WoK is the coda to their shared lives … but Kirk’s death in ID is the defining moment that propels them into that legendary friendship.

 

For Spock’s sake, Kirk wants him to understand that he put his career on the line to save him because he matters, because some things are more important than the rules. But for his own sake too he needs Spock to understand that, or what was the point? And the fact that Spock does get it, and says so, that’s his reward. That’s him knowing he didn’t do what he did for nothing. That Spock Prime was right.So it’s not about being unoriginal, it’s not about disrespecting the source material, it’s about reinterpreting, reimagining, taking a pivotal moment in history and bending it around the fact that nothing in this timeline will be precisely as it was in the original.Which would be the whole point.

So nice, it deserves to be posted thrice.  Thank you.

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Is there anybody else that though about competition before those Fridays #'s? Some people had Trek at a $70M-$80M 2nd weekend and F6 and TH3 cutting each other in half, now everyones saying its Trek thats gonna suffer.

 

Everyone is going to suffer in a way next week.  There is just too much going on at the box office next weekend.  But someone has to raise to the top and clearly I feel that's going to be Fast6.

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That is what Joss Whedon and James Cameron have in common, they know how female brains work.

 

Resuls : they have the three biggest blockbusters WW. You can't be ginormous big without the chicks.

 

Yeah, I think this is the only reason Nolan's movies (save TDK which was a very special case) don't make the same amount of ginormous bucks as Cameron blockbusters and Avengers despite their brilliance. He does not really take into consideration women audiences. 

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I think these Thursday releases draw into question whether only certain films can really take full advantage. I don't think the late shift of date helped, but there's certainly an argument that all we've seen this weekend is a 3 day weekend stretched out over 4 days. Where a studio's late move to grab some extra dollars hasn't really worked and its been detrimental to how the film's performance has been perceived. Paramount quite rightly thought they had a chance at reporting $100 million on Sunday night but its kind of backfired. Instead all the reports will be of underperformance, when truth be told..had it opened Friday it would have wound up with around $80 million for the 3 day and much better press. Whatever where you look at it, all eyes will be on how it holds next weekend now. Huge competition for the same audience. Could be another case over memorial weekend of just too many movies for one to truly break out. Release date is everything. We all know Trek 2 would have done $100 million first weekend if it opened in IM3's date instead of the Marvel hit.

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He brought it back on curiosity factor but obviously couldn`t sustain the momentum and create a strong franchise.

 

Well both films got good reviews and both films will have generated roughly 800 Million WW combined when it's done.  A third film would push it over a Billion so i'd disagree about it not being strong franchise.  But I think he should stop while he's ahead on Trek.  New Director for 3rd film, he can produce.  

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Is there anybody else that though about competition before those Fridays #'s? Some people had Trek at a $70M-$80M 2nd weekend and F6 and TH3 cutting each other in half, now everyones saying its Trek thats gonna suffer.

Always thought Trek would be first in line to suffer from FF6/HGIII since it was the most recent release, hence bigger BO hit by the double threat... and besides, it shares more or less the same target.  That's a no brainer

 

I underestimate GG which makes it a third threat to both IM3 and STID, since their release was at one week from it.  But IM3 was always the stronger man of the month, hence it can counteract more easily while having maximised to the fullest its solo week.  STID was too weak to start with, came into the party afterwards and has no weapon to counteract those who were there first nor the ones that are coming. 

 

He is condemned to start poorly, eating the rest of the demand GG and IM3 have massively consumed already and to eat the leftovers next week.

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Yeah, I think this is the only reason Nolan's movies (save TDK which was a very special case) don't make the same amount of ginormous bucks as Cameron blockbusters and Avengers despite their brilliance. He does not really take into consideration women audiences. 

 

Inception did tremendously well for a tough sell concept and tons of chicks swear by that movie. Leo&Marion, JGL, Hardy really appealed to women.

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