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Moana | 11/23/16 | Teaser Trailer on Page 33

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TalismanRing    23,012

Condescending Headline Alert

 

"Frozen' Effect: Disney Announces 'Moana,' A New Girl-Powered Animated Film for 2016"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/10/20/frozen-effect-disney-announces-moana-a-new-girl-powered-animated-film-for-2016/

 

Yeah, because Disney has never made an animated movie with a female lead before Frozen...

 

I'm excited about this more than any other upcoming animated film. I love the creative team and their previous movies  and the premise and location sounds fantastic.

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babz06    1,024

As far as I can tell, there are no princesses in this film.

The princess name is used loosely by Disney anyway. Pochantas and Mulan say Hello. 

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mahnamahna    2,293

Is this going to be a musical? If not, it's probably going to do Tangled/Wreck-it Ralph numbers. If it is a musical, $750 million-$1 billion. Disney animation (excluding Pixar) does its absolute best when it is in a musical format. 

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PatrickvD    964

The Frozen songwriters are rumored to be on this one actually.

 

And I think the character will not be a princess in title, but still used in the line for merchandise purposes. So kind of like Mulan and Pocahontas.

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TalismanRing    23,012

The Princess and the Frog too, though.

 

Wonderful movie, with a great heroine, beautiful animation and marvelous music.  It just got caught in the CGI animated tidal wave. :angry:

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Melvin Frohike    742

Yeah, because Disney has never made an animated movie with a female lead before Frozen...

People always forget--even professional movie critics. Moana will once again be the first Disney "princess" who actually has her own mind and you know, does stuff, unlike all of the other zombie-like Stepford ones that came before her. Then she, too, will be forgotten when the next one comes along. :rolleyes:

Actually, if you watch even the very first Disney animated feature, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, with this subject expressly in mind, Snow White herself is hardly how people tend to stereotypically view her. She was staying at the Dwarfs' home, so naturally she would offer to help keep house, and on top of that she pretty much took control and whipped those slobs into shape. :lol: I love how she used sarcasm and mocked Grumpy's affected attitude (for his own good). I wouldn't call her modern, but she's not what people tend to think she is, either, which would be like Giselle in her animated form in Enchanted, but that was a parody, not an accurate representation.

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tribefan695    12,300

It's funny, Disney's canon seems to be a rare case of negative revisionist history. Everyone thinks all of their female protagonists before were dainty and helpless and needed their man to survive. 

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TalismanRing    23,012

Agreed, to the media Disney "princesses" are like Bond "girls". This time, for the first time she has her own mind and is a strong woman. 

 

(Pussy Galore says 'f you)

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tribefan695    12,300

To be fair, they did occasionally literally need a man to survive (Kiss at the end of Snow White, Beast saving Belle from wolves), but that's just an element of romance storytelling. There's no point pairing two people together if they don't have to lean on each other at some point.

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Chinoiserie    220

^ Disney princesses have had their issues but they are always less significant their critics claim, and basically result of the original fairytales Disney did not think to change since there was not this kind of critisicim of female film characters back then. And after Pocahontas there has not been any issues unless you are some kind of hard-core feminist. But most of the critics were too old for those films so they have really dated view of what Disney princesses are based on largely Disney merchandice.

Anyway I think the Lion King and Tarzan composer was confirmed for the score. If Disney refuses to work with Menken again then the Lopezes are the best for songs, I hope that happens.

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