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Godzilla: King of the Monsters | May 31 2019 | NO SPOILERS

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2 minutes ago, WP Kelley said:

Interesting point and one I'm glad you brought up. Completely false. I watched Godzilla 2014 the night before and I had forgotten just how dark the fights were. I thought I was watching the "Long Night" from GOT again. I had to adjust my pic to see the monsters. Last night, I had absolutely no issues with KOTM. The night scenes were perfectly viewable. Ironically, I never even thought about it while watching. It was literally a non-issue for me. Anyone else?

Same here, even though fights did took place at night or under clouds, but everything was visible & clear, unlike G14.

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If you like the later transformers films and Pacific Rim 2, you will prob love this one. Big CGI monster fight porn with cheesy stupid plot armoured characters people love from disaster films.

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5 minutes ago, Sindreee said:

If you like the later transformers films and Pacific Rim 2, you will prob love this one. Big CGI monster fight porn with cheesy stupid plot armoured characters people love from disaster films.

What about do not like Transformers but loved this one. As this is nothing like Transformers, not even comparable.

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7 minutes ago, Sindreee said:

If you like the later transformers films and Pacific Rim 2, you will prob love this one. Big CGI monster fight porn with cheesy stupid plot armoured characters people love from disaster films.

I thought this was bad but honestly it was much better than both Pacific Rim films 

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14 minutes ago, Sindreee said:

If you like the later transformers films and Pacific Rim 2, you will prob love this one. Big CGI monster fight porn with cheesy stupid plot armoured characters people love from disaster films.

I hated those but I loved Godzilla KOTM.

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Interesting dynamic developing. At least one I did not expect. RT 91% verified...90% unverified. Great numbers, but I assumed it would be the other way around.

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So good, dont see how the humans are stupid, not like you can make different decisions in their shoes. No less sense than letting iron man snap just to.be his finale.

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30 minutes ago, JGAR4LIFE said:

I thought this was bad but honestly it was much better than both Pacific Rim films 

Damn, this movie must be amazing then. 

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17 minutes ago, Dbui8743 said:

So good, dont see how the humans are stupid, not like you can make different decisions in their shoes. No less sense than letting iron man snap just to.be his finale.

I mean yes there is a huge difference. What was the alternative to Ironman snapping? We have no idea that another strategy would have worked, so from a logical perspective we cannot really critique the decision without understanding the core mechanics of the action. 

MOST importantly though, we understand the decision from a narrative and character perspective. Its almost a literary decision more so than a logical one, and given the character work leading to the final moment, it works from the perspective of the internal consistency of the narrative.

Narrative and character are so shoddily handled in KoTM that its difficult to find a justification for many of the characters decisions and motivations. As a result, the problems I (and many critics) have with the narrative and character work are literally the polar opposite of Ironman snapping (or at least, what that action represents in terms of story and script).

HOWEVER, my counter to all this is it doesnt fricking matter for KoTM. Where AEG was more character driven, KoTM delivered on spectacle in spades and is an even bigger movie as a result. I think giving this film a negative review because you didnt like the characters/narrative underpinning the story is ridiculous, like criticizing the Godfather for not having enough fast-paced action

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3 minutes ago, Justin4125 said:

I mean yes there is a huge difference. What was the alternative to Ironman snapping? We have no idea that another strategy would have worked, so from a logical perspective we cannot really critique the decision without understanding the core mechanics of the action. 

MOST importantly though, we understand the decision from a narrative and character perspective. Its almost a literary decision more so than a logical one, and given the character work leading to the final moment, it works from the perspective of the internal consistency of the narrative.

Narrative and character are so shoddily handled in KoTM that its difficult to find a justification for many of the characters decisions and motivations. As a result, the problems I (and many critics) have with the narrative and character work are literally the polar opposite of Ironman snapping (or at least, what that action represents in terms of story and script).

HOWEVER, my counter to all this is it doesnt fricking matter for KoTM. Where AEG was more character driven, KoTM delivered on spectacle in spades and is an even bigger movie as a result. I think giving this film a negative review because you didnt like the characters/narrative underpinning the story is ridiculous, like criticizing the Godfather for not having enough fast-paced action

I can counter that too, and you even said it yourself. The narrative demands it, doesnt mean it make sense. The russos embedded that whole "only one way to win" so that anyone tries to say iron man doesnt have to die will be rebutted with that.

 

He got the stones, he had the time to wear the stone, and snap. He was fighting Thanos, hard not to imagine the whole team wasnt focusing on the fight, to jump in at that moment to save him from the snap. 

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Boy it was a long day yesterday lol.

 

Anyways, holy crap what an epic ride! Michael Dougherty truly delivered the goods with this one and I actually dug the human characters in the movie. Can't wait to see it again!

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Terrifying movie :

 

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The Green Khmers are coming.

Run for your lives while you can.

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For those who care about RT just recall Aladdin has a 56% and it has solidly good/great WOM. Doing gangbusters at the B.O.

Critics be damned is essentially my motto.

 

I'll be G:KOTM tonight at 7:15

The 42% RT score almost assures me I'll enjoy it. 

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Saw Godzilla KOTM last night. I enjoyed the fights those were the positives of the movie but the story line is suer boring and acting is bad. Negates out any positivity in the movie. Just for reference I enjoyed the characters and story in the Kong SI and first godzilla and did not find them boring. Yes the fights and monsters are awesome but its just hard to seat through the movie during the story arc/ human parts. 

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5 hours ago, JGAR4LIFE said:

I thought this was bad but honestly it was much better than both Pacific Rim films 

You can dislike this film, but don't you dare disrespect the first Pacific Rim. Del Torro nailed the action and scale for that film.  Whoever gets this franchise next needs to hire him for the next Godzilla film.

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16 minutes ago, chaotic-strike said:

You can dislike this film, but don't you dare disrespect the first Pacific Rim. Del Torro nailed the action and scale for that film.  Whoever gets this franchise next needs to hire him for the next Godzilla film.

Prefer someone like Verbinski myself. Del Toro already did Pacific Rim.

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After seeing this, The best huge scale monster fight is still the last act of Pacific Rim 2, fam.

:bravo:

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7 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

Prefer someone like Verbinski myself. Del Toro already did Pacific Rim.

Del Toro is doing a remake of the classic Film Noir thriller "Nightmare Alley" about a conman running a phony psychic racket who gets in way over his head. I really don't think Del Toro in particularly interested in doing a film in someone else's franchise .

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