Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny | June 30 2023 | Very mixed reviews out of Cannes

[ThePhasmid]

Ranking Crusade as the last of the 4? What has this thread turned into? You're a bunch of Indy turncoats!

[Merkel]

5 hours ago, wildphantom said:

Crystal Skull is actually really good until Marion shows up. That’s the turning point and it’s all downhill from there. Nearly all the moments that blow involve her and Tarzan. 

 

 I actually feel the same with The Force Awakens when Han shows up. Goes to show that revisiting these beloved characters years down the road seldom is a good idea. The concept of it might be fun and works somewhat in a sort of post credits tease, but when it actually has to be part of the narrative of a movie, it invariably falls short

[ChipDerby]

39 minutes ago, ThePhasmid said:

Ranking Crusade as the last of the 4? What has this thread turned into? You're a bunch of Indy turncoats!

 

I still like it. I just don't have a nostalgia for these movies and I enjoyed KOTCS more.

 

Raiders, Temple, Skull, Crusade

 

I think my brother has it Crusade, Raiders, Temple, Skull

[Saul Goodman]

Crusade has a more old school vibe than even Raiders. People nowadays accuse movies for having a formula, but this used the Raiders formula/template while adding Sean Connery into the mix. His true movie star power made it even more fun.

1. Raiders
2. Crusade
3, KoTCS

4. Temple

[scytheavatar]

15 hours ago, filmscholar said:

  If it comes even close to this 5-Day that would be very solid.    

 

Indy V has a much higher budget than Indy IV, if it merely matches Indy IV numbers it's probably going to be a money losing flop.

[Noctis]

I'm shocked to read that the movie isn't getting positive reviews when its star is nearing a century.

[reddevil19]

On 5/24/2023 at 7:58 PM, ChipDerby said:

 

I still like it. I just don't have a nostalgia for these movies and I enjoyed KOTCS more.

 

Raiders, Temple, Skull, Crusade

 

I think my brother has it Crusade, Raiders, Temple, Skull

Your brother is sane and should disinherit you.

[grey ghost]

25 minutes ago, reddevil19 said:

Your brother is sane and should disinherit you.

 

[Firepower]

A couple more 3/5 added on RT. Nobody wants to give it 9 at least.

[The Dark Alfred]

This grave robbing attempt of a film will fall flat at the box office. Red flags everywhere. The only question is how painful the final tally will be. Bringing this to Cannes was a disaster.

[Ozymandias]

Really curious how this does, I could see a flop happening.

 

 

[jedijake]

Gonna predict about $65 million OW and $170 million domestic. WW-I don't know and IDGAF.

[G Doss]

45 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

Really curious how this does, I could see a flop happening.

 

 

We know they had to do massive reshoots. Add in poor critical reception and the clunky disaster that was Crystal Skull...

 

A 35-40 opening weekend and 115 total domestic is possible. This will be a Solo/Strange World level bomb. Nine-figure type losses.

 

Even Indy lovers weren't asking for this movie and, it bears repeating, the Indy audience is the one Disney has greatly alienated in recent years.

[SnokesLegs]

13 minutes ago, G Doss said:

A 35-40 opening weekend and 115 total domestic is possible. This will be a Solo/Strange World level bomb. Nine-figure type losses.

I don’t know why I’m responding to this obvious bait, but no, that isn’t possible at all.

Edited May 30, 2023 by SnokesLegs

[G Doss]

9 minutes ago, SnokesLegs said:

I don’t know why I’m responding to this obvious bait, but no, that isn’t possible at all.

Why? 

 

Lightyear was in a much better position as far as cultural relevance last year and made 118 million. 

[G Doss]

Star Trek Beyond did $158 million domestic in 2016 as a tired IP limped through the summer. 

 

That's probably the best Disney can hope for with Indy 5.

[G Doss]

No one wants to see Indy given the Han Solo treatment. And that is exactly what this movie does.

 

From the BBC:

 

"But it does all this in an even gloomier fashion than The Force Awakens did. I'm not sure how many fans want to see Indiana Jones as a broken, helpless old man who cowers in the corner while his patronising goddaughter takes the lead, but that's what we're given, and it's as bleak as it sounds."

[Ryan Reynolds]

1 hour ago, jedijake said:

Gonna predict about $65 million OW and $170 million domestic. WW-I don't know and IDGAF.

off by a little, 600m+ WW is happening

[Marathon]

The movie should have taken place in the 90s and feature nothing but de-aged to Fugitive era - looks Harrison Ford sitting alone in his home trying to get a dial-up modem to work, whilst recording the sounds it makes and sending them to his assistant for deciphering.

[SnokesLegs]

1 hour ago, G Doss said:

Why? 

 

Lightyear was in a much better position as far as cultural relevance last year and made 118 million. 

Totally different scenario. Lightyear flopped because it was a weird scenario that nobody asked for, people love the toys in Toy Story, nobody was interested in “the story of the man who inspired Buzz” in a generic sci-fi cartoon.
 

Whether the early reviews are fully representative of Indy 5 or not, this is still very much an Indiana Jones movie featuring Harrison Ford and being marketed as his swan song to the character. It’ll easily top $35-40 million OW on brand recognition alone.