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Happy Feet 2 but no Midnight in Paris? Fuck this list.

You could add the film  :) and Happy Feet 2 is 110% guarenteed to get voted off so don't worry!

 

BTW, once we do get to 1000 - the remaining 250 nominees must be from before 1990 and once there's only 125 nominees left, they have to be from before 1975

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Arrival of a Train at La Ciotat (1896)

Freaks (1932)

The Invisible Man (1933)

Bride of Frankenstein (1935)

Groundhog Day (1993)

The Blair Witch Project (1999)

Bowling For Columbine (2002)

Grizzly Man (2006)

Superbad (2007)

Midnight in Paris (2011)

The Act of Killing (2013)

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Arrival of a Train at La Ciotat (1896)

Freaks (1932)

The Invisible Man (1933)

Bride of Frankenstein (1935)

Groundhog Day (1993)

The Blair Witch Project (1999)

Bowling For Columbine (2002)

Grizzly Man (2006)

Superbad (2007)

Midnight in Paris (2011)

The Act of Killing (2013)

Finally we get a film from before 1900! Love Bride of Frankenstein and Midnight in Paris myself!! Glad you put some documentaries! And now I believe we've reached 20 participants  :)

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Hamlet Olivier -1942 (not sure on the date)Henry V -BranaghHamlet - BranaghThe Greatest Show on Earth (to see how a garbage film like that wins BP)California Suite -1969The Life of Emile ZolaIl GattopardoBenny's VideoLa Denier MetroHiroshima Mon AmourAdua et la compange (hungry for love is the English title, I believe)Habemus Papam -2011 by Nanni MorettiThe Sting

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If I can contribute a little to the pre-1970 thing:

 

A Woman of Paris: A Drama of Fate (1923)

Bed and Sofa (1927)

Die Büchse der Pandora (1929)

42nd Street (1933)

Dead of Night (1945)

In a Lonely Place (1950)

Ride in the Whirlwind (1966)

The Shooting (1966)

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Love the pre-1970 entries  :)

 

I'll drop 10 more mainstream pre-1970 entries so that there's some more familiar oldies 

 

1. Laura (1944) 

2. Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)

3. Peter Pan (1953) 

4. The War of the Worlds (1953) 

4. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (1954)

5. Them! (1954)

6. The Spirit of St. Louis (1957)

7. The Blob (1958)

8. Sleeping Beauty (1959)

9. The Nutty Professor (1963)

10. Romeo and Juliet (1968) 

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my one complaint. way, way to many terrible films after the 00's and many of the greats that came out in those years are not even mentioned. you don't have to contribute this to the list but these are some of the films that should definitely be on here.

 

The Producers(1967)

MASH(1970)

And Now for Something Completely Different(1971) 

THX 1138(1971)

Fantastic Planet(1973)

Deep Red(1975)

Close encounters of the Third Kind(1977)

House(1977)

Being there(1979)

Lupin the third: Castle of cagliostro(1979)

The Warriors(1979)

Airplane(1980)

Mephisto(1981)

National Lampons Vacation(1983)

Trading Places(1983)

Amadeus(1984)

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom(1984)

The Karate Kid(1984)

This is Spinal Tap(1984)

Paris, Texas(1984)

The Purple Rose of Cairo(1985)

Full metal Jacket(1987)

Beetlejuice(1988)

Coming to America(1988)

Crimes and Misdemeanors(1989)

Boyz N The Hood(1991)

Delicatssen(1991)

The Doors(1991)

Cronos(1993)

In The name of the father(1993)

King of the Hill(1993)

The Crow(1994)

The City of Lost Children(1995)

Twelve Monkeys(1995)

Bottle Rocket(1996)

Jerry maguire(1996)

Chasing Amy(1997)

Good Will Hunting(1997)

Jackie Brown(1997)

Neon Genesis: The End of Evangelion(1997)

Pi(1998)

Pleasantville(1998)

Ringu(1998)

Run, Lola, Run(1998)

The Thin Red Line(1998)

Galaxy Quest(1999)

The Virgin Suicides(1999)

South Park: Bigger longer and Uncut(1999)

Billy Elliot(2000)

Traffic(2000)

Donnie Darko(2001)

Ghost World(2001)

Gosford Park(2001)

Bloody Sunday(2002)

Minority Report(2002)

Les Invasions Barbares(2003)

Monster(2003)

Hotel Rwanda(2004)

Layer Cake(2004)

Million Dollar Baby(2004)

Sideways(2004)

Survive Style 5 +(2004)

Capote(2005)

The Constant Gardener(2005)

Junebug(2005)

Match Point(2005)

Munich(2005)

Paradise Now(2005)

The Squid and the Whale(2005)

Syriana(2005)

Babel(2006)

The Fountain(2006)

Letters from Iwoa Jima(2006)

Perfume: The Story of a Murderer(2006)

Before the Devil Know's You're Dead(2007)

Sunshine(2007)

Frost/Nixon(2008)

Let The Right One in(2008)

An Education(2009)

Fantastic Mr. Fox(2009)

Sin Nombre(2009)

Animal Kingdom(2010)

Black Swan(2010)

Incendies(2010)

Inside Job(2010)

The Fighter(2010)

Shame(2011)

 

these films shoud just replace weaker entries such as STitD, Pacific Rim, Now You see Me, Man Of steel, grow ups 2, Despicable me 2, the great gatsby, after earth, ted, skyfall, pitch perfect, Madagascar(all of them), Ice Age C.D,  Ghost Rider SOV, The Hunger Game, End of Watch, These are just a few films in the last 2 years that people have overrated simply because there new,  give it 5 - 10 years, you're opinions will change and these films will feel like every other piece of crap Hollywood throws at us. Please crucify me!!

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my one complaint. way, way to many terrible films after the 00's and many of the greats that came out in those years are not even mentioned. you don't have to contribute this to the list but these are some of the films that should definitely be on here.

 

The Producers(1967)

MASH(1970)

And Now for Something Completely Different(1971) 

THX 1138(1971)

Fantastic Planet(1973)

Deep Red(1975)

Close encounters of the Third Kind(1977)

House(1977)

Being there(1979)

Lupin the third: Castle of cagliostro(1979)

The Warriors(1979)

Airplane(1980)

Mephisto(1981)

National Lampons Vacation(1983)

Trading Places(1983)

Amadeus(1984)

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom(1984)

The Karate Kid(1984)

This is Spinal Tap(1984)

Paris, Texas(1984)

The Purple Rose of Cairo(1985)

Full metal Jacket(1987)

Beetlejuice(1988)

Coming to America(1988)

Crimes and Misdemeanors(1989)

Boyz N The Hood(1991)

Delicatssen(1991)

The Doors(1991)

Cronos(1993)

In The name of the father(1993)

King of the Hill(1993)

The Crow(1994)

The City of Lost Children(1995)

Twelve Monkeys(1995)

Bottle Rocket(1996)

Jerry maguire(1996)

Chasing Amy(1997)

Good Will Hunting(1997)

Jackie Brown(1997)

Neon Genesis: The End of Evangelion(1997)

Pi(1998)

Pleasantville(1998)

Ringu(1998)

Run, Lola, Run(1998)

The Thin Red Line(1998)

Galaxy Quest(1999)

The Virgin Suicides(1999)

South Park: Bigger longer and Uncut(1999)

Billy Elliot(2000)

Traffic(2000)

Donnie Darko(2001)

Ghost World(2001)

Gosford Park(2001)

Bloody Sunday(2002)

Minority Report(2002)

Les Invasions Barbares(2003)

Monster(2003)

Hotel Rwanda(2004)

Layer Cake(2004)

Million Dollar Baby(2004)

Sideways(2004)

Survive Style 5 +(2004)

Capote(2005)

The Constant Gardener(2005)

Junebug(2005)

Match Point(2005)

Munich(2005)

Paradise Now(2005)

The Squid and the Whale(2005)

Syriana(2005)

Babel(2006)

The Fountain(2006)

Letters from Iwoa Jima(2006)

Perfume: The Story of a Murderer(2006)

Before the Devil Know's You're Dead(2007)

Sunshine(2007)

Frost/Nixon(2008)

Let The Right One in(2008)

An Education(2009)

Fantastic Mr. Fox(2009)

Sin Nombre(2009)

Animal Kingdom(2010)

Black Swan(2010)

Incendies(2010)

Inside Job(2010)

The Fighter(2010)

Shame(2011)

 

these films shoud just replace weaker entries such as STitD, Pacific Rim, Now You see Me, Man Of steel, grow ups 2, Despicable me 2, the great gatsby, after earth, ted, skyfall, pitch perfect, Madagascar(all of them), Ice Age C.D,  Ghost Rider SOV, The Hunger Game, End of Watch, These are just a few films in the last 2 years that people have overrated simply because there new,  give it 5 - 10 years, you're opinions will change and these films will feel like every other piece of crap Hollywood throws at us. Please crucify me!!

Pitch  Perfect

The Great Gatsby

Skyfall

End of Watch

The Hunger Games

 

all of them are good enough to be nominated IMO and TED, Despicable Me 2, and Star Trek Into Darkness aren't bad enough that I would replace them.

 

Whether you like it or not, we can't change nominees - once we get to 1250, we'll more than likely vote all of the films you listed aside from Skyfall and The Hunger Games off  :)

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if you're going to nominate a David Ayer film weather he wrote or was directing go with Training day or Harsh Times, End of Watch is mediocre for the modern day at best. there's possibly 30-40 films in 2012 alone that are better films, I still think it was decent but not nearly as noteworthy as these(  Cloud Atlas, Beasts of the Southern Wild, Life of Pi, Lincoln,  Zero Dark Thirty, Silver Linings Playbook, Bernie, The Perks of being a Wall flower, Indie Game: The movie, Holy Motors, Salmon Fishing in the Yemen, Arbitrage, Detachment, Wreck It Ralph, The Dark Knight Rises, The Hobbit: an Unexpected journey, Argo, Prometheus, Promised Land, Dredd, John Dies at the End, The Grey, Safety not Guaranteed, Flight, God Bless America, Seven Psychopaths, Savages, Looper, Django Unchained). 

 

How many is that?

what we should be doing is looking at the classic or more underground films that the original list missed, and fill in the holes with those, Not blockbusters or new films people are obsessing over because there new. you know the last list I just submitted I named to Karate Kid and the temple of Doom how many of you wanna bet that if it was 1985 Those films would have already been listed, my point being people are getting carried away.

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    [*]Arrival of a Train at La Ciolat (1896) 

    [*]A Voyage to the Moon (1902)

    [*]The Great Train Robbery (1903)

    [*]The Birth of a Nation (1915)

    [*]Intolerance (1916)

    [*]Judex (1916)

    [*]The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)

    [*]Nosferatu (1922)

    [*]A Woman of Paris: A Drama of Fate (1923) 

    [*]Greed (1924) 

    [*]Sherlock Jr (1924) 

    [*]The Thief of Bagdad (1924)

    [*]Battleship Potempkin (1925)

    [*]The Gold Rush (1925)

    [*]The Phantom of the Opera (1925)

    [*]Seven Chances (1925)

    [*]The General (1926) 

    [*]Bed of Sofa (1927) 

    [*]Napoleon (1927) 

    [*]Sunrise (1927)

    [*]Metropolis (1928)

    [*]The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) 

    [*]Steamboat Bill Jr. (1928)

    [*]Steamboat Willie (1928) 

    [*]Die Büchse der Pandora (1929)

    [*]The Man With a Movie Camera (1929) 

    [*]Un Chien Andalou (1929) 

    [*]All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)

    [*]The Blue Angel (1930)

    [*]Dracula (1931)

    [*]Frankenstein (1931)

    [*]M (1931)

    [*]The Public Enemy (1931)

    [*]Freaks (1932) 

    [*]Morning Glory (1932) 

    [*]Scarface: The Shame of a Nation (1932)

    [*]42nd Street (1933) 

    [*]The Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933)

    [*]The Invisible Man (1933) 

    [*]King Kong (1933)

    [*]It Happened One Night (1934)

    [*]Les Miserables (1934) 

    [*]Triumph of the Will (1934)

    [*]Bride of Frankenstein (1935) 

    [*]Mutiny on the Bounty (1935) 

    [*]Modern Times (1936) 

    [*]Mr. Deeds Goes to Town (1936) 

    [*]The Awful Truth (1937)

    [*]Captain Courageous (1937) 

    [*]The Life of Emile Zota (1937) 

    [*]Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)

    [*]The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938)

    [*]Gone With the Wind (1939) 

    [*]Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939)

    [*]The Rules of the Game (1939) 

    [*]Stagecoach (1939) 

    [*]The Wizard of Oz (1939)

    [*]Wuthering Heights (1939) 

    [*]Fantasia (1940) 

    [*]The Grapes of Wrath (1940)

    [*]His Girl Friday (1940)

    [*]The Philadelphia Story (1940)

    [*]Pinocchio (1940) 

    [*]The Shop Around the Corner (1940) 

    [*]Rebecca (1940)

    [*]Citizen Kane (1941)

    [*]Dumbo (1941)

    [*]The Maltese Falcon (1941)

    [*]Sullivan's Travels (1941)

    [*]The Wolf-Man (1941) 

    [*]Casablanca (1942)

    [*]The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) 

    [*]Shadow of a Doubt (1943) 

    [*]Arsenic and Old Lace (1944) 

    [*]Double Indemnity (1944) 

    [*]Ivan the Terrible Part 1 (1944) 

    [*]Laura (1944) 

    [*]National Velvet (1944)

    [*]To Have or To Have Not (1944) 

    [*]Children of Paradise (1945) 

    [*]Dead of Night (1945) 

    [*]The Big Sleep (1946) 

    [*]The Best Years of Our Lives (1946) 

    [*]It’s a Wonderful Life (1946)

    [*]The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946)

    [*]Black Narcissius (1947)

    [*]Miracle on 34th Street (1947)

    [*]Bicycle Thieves (1948)

    [*]Hamlet (1948) 

    [*]Rope (1948)

    [*]The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) 

    [*]The Third Man (1949) 

    [*]All About Eve (1950)

    [*]In a Lonely Place (1950) 

    [*]Rashomon (1950)

    [*]Sunset Boulevard (1950) 

    [*]The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)

    [*]Strangers on a Train (1951) 

    [*]A Streetcar Named Desire (1951) 

    [*]The Greatest Show on Earth (1952) 

    [*]Ikiru (1952)

    [*]Singin’ in the Rain (1952)

    [*]Umberto D (1952) 

    [*]Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)

    [*]Peter Pan (1953) 

    [*]Roman Holiday (1953) 

    [*]Shane (1953) 

    [*]Tokyo Story (1953) 

    [*]The War of the Worlds (1953) 

    [*]The Caine Mutiny (1954) 

    [*]Creature From the Black Lagoon (1954)

    [*]Gojira (1954)

    [*]La Strada (1954) 

    [*]On the Waterfront (1954)

    [*]Rear Window (1954)

    [*]Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (1954)

    [*]Seven Samurai (1954)

    [*]Them! (1954) 

    [*]Lady and the Tramp (1955) 

    [*]Night and Fog (1955) 

    [*]One Froggy Evening (1955) 

    [*]Rebel Without a Cause (1955) 

    [*]Forbidden Planet (1956) 

    [*]Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)

    [*]The Searchers (1956) 

    [*]The Ten Commandments (1956) 

    [*]12 Angry Men (1957) 

    [*]The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) 

    [*]Paths of Glory (1957)

    [*]The Seventh Seal (1957)

    [*]The Spirit of St. Louis (1957) 

    [*]Wild Strawberries (1957)

    [*]The Blob (1958) 

    [*]The Hidden Fortress (1958)

    [*]Ivan the Terrible Part 2 (1958) 

    [*]Vertigo (1958)

    [*]Anatomy of a Murder (1959) 

    [*]Ben-Hur (1959)

    [*]Hiroshima non Amour (1959) 

    [*]Les quatre cents coups (1959)

    [*]North by Northwest (1959)

    [*]Sleeping Beauty (1959) 

    [*]Some Like It Hot (1959) 

    [*]À Bout de Souffle (1960)

    [*]The Apartment (1960)

    [*]The Bad Sleep Well (1960) 

    [*]La Dolce Verda (1960) 

    [*]The Magnificent Seven (1960) 

    [*]Psycho (1960)

    [*]101 Dalmatians (1961) 

    [*]Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961) 

    [*]The Hustler (1961) 

    [*]Judgment at Nuremberg (1961) 

    [*]West Side Story (1961) 

    [*]Carnival of Souls (1962) 

    [*]Dr. No (1962)

    [*]La Jutee (1962) 

    [*]Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 

    [*]The Longest Day (1962) 

    [*]The Manchurian Candidate (1962)

    [*]The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance (1962) 

    [*]Sanjuro (1962) 

    [*]Therese Desqueyroux (1962)

    [*]To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) 

    [*]8 1/2 (1963)

    [*]The Birds (1963) 

    [*]From Russia With Love (1963) 

    [*]The Great Escape (1963) 

    [*]The Haunting (1963)

    [*]High and Low (1963) 

    [*]It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (1963) 

    [*]The Leopard (1963) 

    [*]The Nutty Professor (1963) 

    [*]Dr. Strangelove (1964)

    [*]A Fistful of Dollars (1964) 

    [*]Goldfinger (1964) 

    [*]Mary Poppins (1964)

    [*]Seven Days in May (1964) 

    [*]A Shot in the Dark (1964) 

    [*]Doctor Zhivago (1965)

    [*]For a Few Dollars More (1965) 

    [*]In Harm's Way (1965) 

    [*]The Sound of Music (1965) 

    [*]Thunderball (1965) 

    [*]Andrei Rublev (1966) 

    [*]Batman (1966) 

    [*]The Battle of Algiers (1966)

    [*]Fantastic Voyage (1966)

    [*]The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (1966)

    [*]Ride in the Whirlwind (1966) 

    [*]The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming (1966) 

    [*]Seconds (1966) 

    [*]The Shooting (1966) 

    [*]Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966) 

    [*]Bonnie and Clyde (1967) 

    [*]The Graduate (1967)

    [*]In the Heat of the Night (1967) 

    [*]The Jungle Book (1967)

    [*]Le Samourai (1967) 

    [*]Point Blank (1967) 

    [*]2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)

    [*]Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968) 

    [*]A Lion in Winter (1968) 

    [*]Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) 

    [*]Planet of the Apes (1968)

    [*]The Producers (1968) 

    [*]Romeo and Juliet (1968) 

    [*]Rosemary's Baby (1968) 

    [*]Where Eagles Dare (1968) 

    [*]Yellow Submarine (1968) 

    [*]Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)

    [*]California Suite (1969) 

    [*]Midnight Cowboy (1969) 

    [*]On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) 

    [*]The Wild Bunch (1969) 

    [*]The Conformist (1970) 

    [*]Five Easy Pieces (1970) 

    [*]Patton (1970)

    [*]MASH (1970) 

    [*]And Now For Something Completely Different (1971) 

    [*]A Clockwork Orange (1971)

    [*]Dirty Harry (1971) 

    [*]Duel (1971) 

    [*]Fiddler on the Roof (1971) 

    [*]The French Connection (1971) 

    [*]Get Carter (1971) 

    [*]THX-1138 (1971) 

    [*]Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (1971)

    [*]Aguirre: The Wrath of God (1972) 

    [*]Cabaret (1972) 

    [*]The Godfather (1972)

    [*]The Ruling Class (1972) 

    [*]Sleuth (1972) 

    [*]Badlands (1973)

    [*]Day for Night (1973) 

    [*]The Day of the Jackal (1973) 

    [*]Enter the Dragon (1973) 

    [*]The Exorcist (1973) 

    [*]Fantastic Planet (1973) 

    [*]My Name is Nobody (1973)

    [*]Soylent Green (1973)

    [*]The Sting (1973)

    [*]The Wicker Man (1973) 

    [*]Blazing Saddles (1974)

    [*]Chinatown (1974)

    [*]The Conversation (1974) 

    [*]The Godfather Part II (1974) 

    [*]The Odessa Files (1974)

    [*]The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) 

    [*]The Towering Inferno (1974) 

    [*]Young Frankenstein (1974) 

    [*]Barry Lyndon (1975) 

    [*]Deep Red (1975) 

    [*]Dog Day Afternoon (1975)

    [*]Jaws (1975) 

    [*]The Man Who Would Be King (1975) 

    [*]Mirror (1975) 

    [*]Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)

    [*]Nashville (1975) 

    [*]One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 

    [*]Professione: reporter (1975) 

    [*]The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)

    [*]Three Days on the Condor (1975) 

    [*]All the President's Men (1976)

    [*]Marathon Man (1976) 

    [*]Network (1976) 

    [*]The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976) 

    [*]Rocky (1976) 

    [*]The Shootist (1976) 

    [*]Taxi Driver (1976) 

    [*]Annie Hall (1977)

    [*]A Bridge Too Far (1977)

    [*]Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) 

    [*]The Duelists (1977) 

    [*]House (1977) 

    [*]Eraserhead (1977) 

    [*]The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1977) 

    [*]Saturday Night Fever (1977) 

    [*]Soldier of Orange (1977) 

    [*]Sorcerer (1977) 

    [*]Star Wars (1977)

    [*]Suspiria (1977) 

    [*]The Boys From Brazil (1978) 

    [*]Days of Heaven (1978) 

    [*]The Deer Hunter (1978) 

    [*]The Driver (1978) 

    [*]Halloween (1978)

    [*]The Marriage of Maria Braun (1978) 

    [*]Superman (1978)

    [*]Alien (1979) 

    [*]Apocalypse Now (1979)

    [*]Being There (1979) 

    [*]The Black Stallion (1979) 

    [*]Kramer vs. Kramer (1979) 

    [*]The In-Laws (1979) 

    [*]Manhattan (1979) 

    [*]Monty Python’s Life of Brian (1979)

    [*]The Muppet Movie (1979)

    [*]Stalker (1979)

    [*]The Warriors (1979) 

    [*]Airplane! (1980) 

    [*]The Blues Brothers (1980) 

    [*]The Elephant Man (1980)

    [*]The Empire Strikes Back (1980)

    [*]La Citte Delle Donne (1980) 

    [*]La Denier Metro (1980) 

    [*]Raging Bull (1980) 

    [*]The Shining (1980) 

    [*]Used Cars (1980) 

    [*]An American Werewolf in London (1981) 

    [*]Chariots of Fire (1981) 

    [*]Das Boot (1981) 

    [*]Escape From New York (1981) 

    [*]Gallipoli (1981) 

    [*]The Great Muppet Caper (1981)

    [*]The Fox and the Hound (1981)

    [*]Mephisto (1981) 

    [*]Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)

    [*]The Road Warrior (1981) 

    [*]Blade Runner (1982) 

    [*]E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)

    [*]First Blood (1982)

    [*]Gandhi (1982) 

    [*]Koyanisqaatsi (1982)

    [*]The Secret of Nimh (1982) 

    [*]Sophie's Choice (1982) 

    [*]Star Trek II – The Wrath of Khan (1982)

    [*]The Thing (1982)

    [*]Tron (1982)

    [*]A Christmas Story (1983)

    [*]Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life (1983)

    [*]National Lampoon's Vacation (1983) 

    [*]Return of the Jedi (1983) 

    [*]The Right Stuff (1983) 

    [*]Trading Places (1983) 

    [*]Videodrome (1983) 

    [*]Amadeus (1984) 

    [*]Beverly Hills Cop (1984)

    [*]Ghostbusters (1984) 

    [*]Gremlins (1984) 

    [*]Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984) 

    [*]The Karate Kid (1984) 

    [*]Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (1984)

    [*]The Muppets Take Manhattan (1984)

    [*]Once Upon a Time in America (1984) 

    [*]Paris, Texas (1984) 

    [*]A Passage to India (1984) 

    [*]Repo Man (1984)

    [*]Sixteen Candles (1984)

    [*]Stranger Than Paradise (1984)

    [*]The Terminator (1984)

    [*]This is Spinal Tap (1984) 

    [*]Back to the Future (1985)

    [*]Brazil (1985) 

    [*]The Breakfast Club (1985) 

    [*]Commando (1985) 

    [*]The Goonies (1985)

    [*]My Beautiful Laundrette (1985)

    [*]Out of Africa (1985) 

    [*]Pale Rider (1985) 

    [*]Pee-Wee's Big Adventure (1985) 

    [*]Police Story (1985)

    [*]The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985) 

    [*]Ran (1985)

    [*]Runaway Train (1985) 

    [*]To Live and Die in LA (1985)

    [*] 

    [*]Aliens (1986)

    [*]Big Trouble in Little China (1986) 

    [*]Blue Velvet (1986) 

    [*]Crocodile Dundee (1986) 

    [*]Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986) 

    [*]The Fly (1986)

    [*]The Great Mouse Detective (1986) 

    [*]The Mission (1986) 

    [*]Stand by Me (1986) 

    [*]Angel Heart (1987) 

    [*]The Brave Little Toaster (1987) 

    [*]Full Metal Jacket (1987) 

    [*]The Last Emperor (1987) 

    [*]Lethal Weapon (1987) 

    [*]Maurice (1987) 

    [*]Near Dark (1987) 

    [*]Nekromantik (1987) 

    [*]Planes, Trains and Automobiles (1987) 

    [*]Predator (1987) 

    [*]The Princess Bride (1987)

    [*]Raising Arizona (1987) 

    [*]Robocop (1987) 

    [*]Spaceballs (1987) 

    [*]The Untouchables (1987)

    [*]Urotsukidoji: Legend of the Overfiend (1987) 

    [*]Wings of Desire (1987) 

    [*]Withnail and I (1987) 

    [*]Akira (1988) 

    [*]Beetlejuice (1988) 

    [*]Cinema Paradiso (1988) 

    [*]Coming to America (1988) 

    [*]Die Hard (1988)

    [*]Grave of the Fireflies (1988) 

    [*]Hotaru no Haka (1988)

    [*]The Last Temptation of Christ (1988) 

    [*]My Neighbor Totoro (1988)

    [*]The Vanishing (1988) 

    [*]Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (1988)

    [*]Back to the Future Part II (1989) 

    [*]Batman (1989) 

    [*]Crimes and Misdemeanors (1989) 

    [*]Dead Poets Society (1989)

    [*]Do the Right Thing (1989)

    [*]Field of Dreams (1989)

    [*]Glory (1989)

    [*]Henry V (1989) 

    [*]Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) 

    [*]The Killer (1989) 

    [*]Kiki’s Delivery Service (1989)

    [*]Monsieur Hire (1989) 

    [*]National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation (1989)

    [*]Sex, Lies, and Videotape (1989) 

    [*]Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1989) 

    [*]When Harry Met Sally (1989) 

    [*]Dances With Wolves (1990) 

    [*]Edward Scissorhands (1990)

    [*]Goodfellas (1990)

    [*]The Hairdresser's Husband (1990) 

    [*]The Hunt for Red October (1990)

    [*]Tremors (1990) 

    [*]Beauty and the Beast (1991)

    [*]Boyz in the Hood (1991)

    [*]Delicatessen (1991) 

    [*]The Doors (1991) 

    [*]Father of the Bride (1991) 

    [*]JFK (1991) 

    [*]Kafka (1991) 

    [*]Naked Lunch (1991) 

    [*]Rock-a-Doodle (1991) 

    [*]Star Trek VI - The Undiscovered Country (1991) 

    [*]Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) 

    [*]Aladdin (1992)

    [*]Benny's Video (1992) 

    [*]A Few Good Men (1992) 

    [*]Glengarry Glen Ross (1992) 

    [*]Hard-Boiled (1992) 

    [*]The Last of the Mohicans (1992)

    [*]The Muppet Christmas Carol (1992) 

    [*]Porco Russo (1992) 

    [*]Reservoir Dogs (1992)

    [*]Unforgiven (1992)

    [*]Wayne’s World (1992)

    [*]Army of Darkness (1993)

    [*]Cronos (1993) 

    [*]Gettysburg (1993)

    [*]Groundhog Day (1993) 

    [*]The Fugitive (1993)

    [*]Jurassic Park (1993)

    [*]In the Name of the Father (1993) 

    [*]King of the Hill (1993) 

    [*]Menace II Society (1993)

    [*]Robin Hood: Men in Tights (1993) 

    [*]Schindler’s List (1993)

    [*]Tombstone (1993) 

    [*]Three Colors: Blue (1993) 

    [*]Chungking Express (1994) 

    [*]Clerks (1994)

    [*]The Crow (1994) 

    [*]Ed Wood (1994) 

    [*]Forrest Gump (1994)

    [*]Fresh (1994)

    [*]Giorgino (1994) 

    [*]Heavenly Creatures (1994) 

    [*]Hoop Dreams (1994) 

    [*]The Hudsucker Proxy (1994) 

    [*]Leon: The Professional (1994) 

    [*]The Lion King (1994)

    [*]The Mask (1994) 

    [*]Pulp Fiction (1994)

    [*]Quiz Show (1994) 

    [*]The Shawshank Redemption (1994)

    [*]Speed (1994) 

    [*]Three Colors: Red (1994) 

    [*]12 Monkeys (1995) 

    [*]Apollo 13 (1995) 

    [*]Before Sunrise (1995) 

    [*]The City of Lost Children (1995) 

    [*]Clueless (1995)

    [*]Dead Man (1995) 

    [*]Heat (1995)

    [*]Jumanji (1995) 

    [*]Outbreak (1995)

    [*]Se7en (1995) 

    [*]Toy Story (1995)

    [*]The Usual Suspects (1995) 

    [*]Whispers of the Heart (1995)

    [*]Bottle Rocket (1996) 

    [*]Breaking the Waves (1996)

    [*]The English Patient (1996) 

    [*]Fargo (1996)

    [*]The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996) 

    [*]Jerry Maguire (1996) 

    [*]Independence Day (1996) 

I can't post more than 750 entries at a time so for now on, I'll show 200-500 per list update  :)

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if you're going to nominate a David Ayer film weather he wrote or was directing go with Training day or Harsh Times, End of Watch is mediocre for the modern day at best. there's possibly 30-40 films in 2012 alone that are better films, I still think it was decent but not nearly as noteworthy as these(  Cloud Atlas, Beasts of the Southern Wild, Life of Pi, Lincoln,  Zero Dark Thirty, Silver Linings Playbook, Bernie, The Perks of being a Wall flower, Indie Game: The movie, Holy Motors, Salmon Fishing in the Yemen, Arbitrage, Detachment, Wreck It Ralph, The Dark Knight Rises, The Hobbit: an Unexpected journey, Argo, Prometheus, Promised Land, Dredd, John Dies at the End, The Grey, Safety not Guaranteed, Flight, God Bless America, Seven Psychopaths, Savages, Looper, Django Unchained). 

 

How many is that?

what we should be doing is looking at the classic or more underground films that the original list missed, and fill in the holes with those, Not blockbusters or new films people are obsessing over because there new. you know the last list I just submitted I named to Karate Kid and the temple of Doom how many of you wanna bet that if it was 1985 Those films would have already been listed, my point being people are getting carried away.

Well I agree and I'm trying to encourage everyone to start submitting pre-1970 films - in fact, after we get to 1000, all films submitted must be from before 1990 and after 1125, all must be from before 1970! I noticed that 75% of the list was the last 40 years and I'm taking action to show some of the older films.

 

But I don't mind it getting nominated personally

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    [*]The Rock (1996) 

    [*]Shall We Dance? (1996) 

    [*]Schizopolis (1996) 

    [*]Suburbia (1996) 

    [*]Trainspotting (1996)

    [*]Batman and Robin (1997) 

    [*]Boogie Nights (1997) 

    [*]The Butcher Boy (1997) 

    [*]The Castle (1997) 

    [*]Chasing Amy (1997) 

    [*]Cube (1997) 

    [*]The Fifth Element (1997) 

    [*]Gattaca (1997)

    [*]Good Will Hunting (1997) 

    [*]Funny Games (1997) 

    [*]Jackie Brown (1997) 

    [*]L.A. Confidential (1997) 

    [*]Lost Highway (1997) 

    [*]Men in Black (1997) 

    [*]Neon Genesis: The End of Evangelion (1997) 

    [*]Princess Monokoke (1997) 

    [*]Titanic (1997)

    [*]American History X (1998) 

    [*]The Big Lebowski (1998) 

    [*]Dark City (1998)

    [*]Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1998) 

    [*]Happiness (1998) 

    [*]Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998) 

    [*]Mulan (1998) 

    [*]Pi (1998) 

    [*]Pleasantville (1998) 

    [*]The Prince of Egypt (1998)

    [*]Out of Sight (1998) 

    [*]Ringu (1998) 

    [*]Run Lola Run (1998) 

    [*]Rushmore (1998)

    [*]Saving Private Ryan (1998)

    [*]Shakespeare in Love (1998) 

    [*]The Thin Red Line (1998) 

    [*]The Truman Show (1998) 

    [*]American Beauty (1999) 

    [*]Audition (1999)

    [*]Being John Malkovich (1999) 

    [*]The Blair Witch Project (1999) 

    [*]Election (1999) 

    [*]Eyes Wide Shut (1999) 

    [*]Fight Club (1999) 

    [*]Galaxy Quest (1999) 

    [*]The Green Mile (1999)

    [*]The Insider (1999) 

    [*]The Iron Giant (1999) 

    [*]The Matrix (1999) 

    [*]The Limey (1999) 

    [*]Pola X (1999) 

    [*]The Sixth Sense (1999)

    [*]South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut (1999) 

    [*]Toy Story 2 (1999) 

    [*]The Virgin Suicides (1999) 

    [*]Almost Famous (2000) 

    [*]Amores Perros (2000)

    [*]Battle Royale (2000)

    [*]Battlefield Earth (2000) 

    [*]The Beach (2000) 

    [*]Billy Elliot (2000) 

    [*]Chicken Run (2000)

    [*]Chocolat (2000) 

    [*]The Emperor's New Groove (2000) 

    [*]Dancer in the Dark (2000) 

    [*]Gladiator (2000) 

    [*]In the Mood for Love (2000) 

    [*]Memento (2000) 

    [*]O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) 

    [*]Snatch (2000) 

    [*]Traffic (2000) 

    [*]Unbreakable (2000) 

    [*]X-Men (2000) 

    [*]A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) 

    [*]Amelie (2001)

    [*]A Beautiful Mind (2001) 

    [*]Black Hawk Down (2001) 

    [*]Donnie Darko (2001) 

    [*]Ghost World (2001)

    [*]Gosford Park (2001) 

    [*]Legally Blonde (2001) 

    [*]The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)

    [*]Monsters, Inc (2001) 

    [*]Moulin Rouge! (2001) 

    [*]Mulholland Drive (2001) 

    [*]No Man's Land (2001) 

    [*]The Piano Teacher (2001) 

    [*]The Royal Tenenbaums (2001) 

    [*]My Sassy Girl (2001)

    [*]Osmosis Jones (2001) 

    [*]Shrek (2001)

    [*]Spirited Away (2001)

    [*]Vanilla Sky (2001) 

    [*]Waking Life (2001)

    [*]Y Tu Mama Tambien (2001)

    [*]25th Hour (2002)

    [*]28 Days Later (2002) 

    [*]Adaptation (2002)

    [*]Bloody Sunday (2002) 

    [*]Bubba Ho-Tep (2002) 

    [*]Catch Me If You Can (2002) 

    [*]Chicago (2002) 

    [*]City of God (2002) 

    [*]The Bourne Identity (2002)

    [*]Bowling for Columbine (2002) 

    [*]Gerry (2002) 

    [*]Ice Age (2002) 

    [*]Internal Affairs (2002) 

    [*]Irreversible (2002) 

    [*]Lilo and Stitch (2002) 

    [*]Minority Report (2002) 

    [*]The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) 

    [*]The Pianist (2002) 

    [*]Punch-Drunk Love (2002) 

    [*]Signs (2002) 

    [*]American Splendor (2003) 

    [*]Dogville (2003) 

    [*]Elf (2003)

    [*]Finding Nemo (2003)

    [*]The Fog of War (2003)

    [*]Jeux d'enfants (2003)

    [*]Les invasions barbares (2003) 

    [*]Les triplettes de Belleville (2003)

    [*]The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 

    [*]Lost in Translation (2003)

    [*]Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003)

    [*]Matchstick Men (2003)

    [*]Monster (2003) 

    [*]Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)

    [*]Oldboy (2003)

    [*]The Return (2003) 

    [*]The Room (2003) 

    [*]Shara (2003)

    [*]School of Rock (2003) 

    [*]Anchorman – The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004)

    [*]Before Sunrise (2004) 

    [*]Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)

    [*]Garden State (2004) 

    [*]Hotel Rwanda (2004) 

    [*]Howl's Moving Castle (2004) 

    [*]Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004) 

    [*]The Incredibles (2004) 

    [*]Layer Cake (2004) 

    [*]Million Dollar Baby (2004) 

    [*]The Polar Express (2004) 

    [*]Primer (2004) 

    [*]Sennen Joyu (2004)

    [*]Shaun of the Dead (2004) 

    [*]Shrek 2 (2004) 

    [*]Sideways (2004) 

    [*]Spider-Man 2 (2004)

    [*]The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie (2004)

    [*]Survive Style 5+ (2004) 

    [*]Teacher's Pet (2004) 

    [*]Team America: World Police (2004) 

    [*]Windstruck (2004) 

    [*]The 40-Year Old Virgin (2005) 

    [*]Batman Begins (2005) 

    [*]Brick (2005) 

    [*]Brokeback Mountain (2005) 

    [*]Cache/Hidden (2005) 

    [*]Capote (2005) 

    [*]Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) 

    [*]The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (2005) 

    [*]The Constant Gardener (2005) 

    [*]The Devil and Daniel Johnston (2005)

    [*]Grizzly Man (2005) 

    [*]Jarhead (2005) 

    [*]Junebug (2005) 

    [*]Kingdom of Heaven (2005) 

    [*]King Kong (2005) 

    [*]Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005)

    [*]Match Point (2005) 

    [*]Mrs. Palfrey at the Claremont Hotel (2005) 

    [*]Munich (2005) 

    [*]The New World (2005) 

    [*]Paradise Now (2005) 

    [*]The Proposition (2005) 

    [*]Serenity (2005) 

    [*]Sophia Scholl - The Final Days (2005) 

    [*]The Squid and the Whale (2005) 

    [*]Syriana (2005) 

    [*]Wallace and Gromit – The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005)

    [*]War of the Worlds (2005) 

    [*]Babel (2006) 

    [*]Barnyard - The Original Party Animals (2006) 

    [*]Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Believe Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (2006) 

    [*]Casino Royale (2006) 

    [*]Children of Men (2006) 

    [*]Charlotte's Web (2006) 

    [*]Click (2006) 

    [*]The Devil Wears Prada (2006) 

    [*]The Fountain (2006) 

    [*]Inland Empire (2006) 

    [*]Letters From Iwo Jima (2006) 

    [*]Mission: Impossible III (2006) 

    [*]Night at the Museum (2006) 

    [*]Pan’s Labyrinth (2006)

    [*]Paprika (2006) 

    [*]Perfume: The Story of a Murderer (2006) 

    [*]The Prestige (2006) 

    [*]The Pursuit of Happyness (2006) 

    [*]The Queen (2006) 

    [*]Stranger Than Fiction (2006) 

    [*]Thank You for Smoking (2006) 

    [*]United 93 (2006) 

    [*]V for Vendetta (2006) 

    [*]World Trade Center (2006) 

    [*]3:10 to Yuma (2007) 

    [*]4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days (2007)

    [*]Alvin and the Chipmunks (2007) 

    [*]The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (2007)

    [*]Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (2007) 

    [*]The Bourne Ultimatum (2007) 

    [*]Bridge to Terabithia (2007) 

    [*]Enchanted (2007) 

    [*]Hairspray (2007) 

    [*]Hot Fuzz (2007) 

    [*]Into the Wild (2007)

    [*]The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters (2007) 

    [*]Le Scaphandre et le Papillon (2007)

    [*]Live Free or Die Hard (2007) 

    [*]Mollere (2007) 

    [*]No Country for Old Men (2007) 

    [*]Persepolis (2007)

    [*]Ratatouille (2007)

    [*]Rescue Dawn (2007) 

    [*]Stardust (2007) 

    [*]Sunshine (2007) 

    [*]Superbad (2007) 

    [*]There Will Be Blood (2007) 

    [*]Transformers (2007) 

    [*]Young @ Heart (2007) 

    [*]Zodiac (2007) 

    [*]Be Kind Rewind (2008) 

    [*]The Dark Knight (2008) 

    [*]Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) 

    [*]Doubt (2008) 

    [*]Frost/Nixon (2008) 

    [*]In Bruges (2008) 

    [*]Iron Man (2008) 

    [*]Kung Fu Panda (2008) 

    [*]Let the Right Ones In (2008) 

    [*]Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa (2008) 

    [*]Mamma Mia (2008) 

    [*]North Face (2008) 

    [*]Quantum of Solace (2008) 

    [*]Slumdog Millionaire (2008) 

    [*]Space Chimps (2008) 

    [*]Synecdoche, New York (2008)

    [*]WALL-E (2008)

    [*]The Wrestler (2008)

    [*](500) Days of Summer (2009) 

    [*]Alvin and the Chipmunks - The Squeakuel (2009) 

    [*]A Serious Man (2009) 

    [*]A Single Man (2009)

    [*]An Education (2009) 

    [*]Avatar (2009)

    [*]The Blind Side (2009) 

    [*]Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs (2009) 

    [*]Coraline (2009) 

    [*]District 9 (2009) 

    [*]Dogtooth (2009) 

    [*]Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009) 

    [*]Hungry for Love (2009) 

    [*]I Killed My Mother (2009) 

    [*]Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (2009) 

    [*]Inglorious Basterds (2009)

    [*]In the Loop (2009) 

    [*]Mary and Max (2009)

    [*]Moon (2009)

    [*]The Road (2009) 

    [*]Sherlock Holmes (2009) 

    [*]Sin Nombre (2009) 

    [*]Star Trek (2009)

    [*]Super Wars (2009) 

    [*]Up (2009) 

    [*]Valhalla Rising (2009) 

    [*]Watchmen (2009) 

    [*]Where the Wild Things Are (2009)

    [*]The White Ribbon (2009) 

    [*]Zombieland (2009) 

    [*]Alice in Wonderland (2010) 

    [*]Animal Kingdom (2010) 

    [*]Black Swan (2010) 

    [*]Carlos (2010) 

    [*]Despicable Me (2010)

    [*]Exit Through the Gift Shop (2010) 

    [*]The Fighter (2010) 

    [*]How to Train Your Dragon (2010) 

    [*]Incendies (2010) 

    [*]Inception (2010) 

    [*]Inside Job (2010) 

    [*]The King's Speech (2010) 

    [*]Megamind (2010) 

    [*]Mr. Nobody (2010) 

    [*]Nanny McPhee Returns (2010) 

    [*]Of Gods and Monsters (2010) 

    [*]Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (2010) 

    [*]The Social Network (2010)

    [*]Shrek Forever After (2010) 

    [*]Shutter Island (2010) 

    [*]Space Chimps 2 (2010?) 

    [*]Tangled (2010) 

    [*]Toy Story 3 (2010) 

    [*]50/50 (2011) 

    [*]The Adventures of Tintin (2011) 

    [*]Another Earth (2011)

    [*]A Separation (2011)

    [*]Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) 

    [*]Detachment (2011)

    [*]Dolphin Tale (2011) 

    [*]Drive (2011) 

    [*]Habemus Papum (2011) 

    [*]Happy Feet Two (2011) 

    [*]Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 (2011)

    [*]Hugo (2011) 

    [*]The Inbetweeners Movie (2011)

    [*]Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011) 

    [*]Melancholia (2011) 

    [*]Midnight in Paris (2011) 

    [*]Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol (2011) 

    [*]The Muppets (2011)

    [*]Rango (2011) 

    [*]Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011) 

    [*]Shame (2011) 

    [*]Super 8 (2011) 

    [*]Take Shelter (2011) 

    [*]Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (2011) 

    [*]The Tree of Life (2011) 

    [*]The Turin Horse (2011) 

    [*]We Need to Talk About Kevin (2011) 

    [*]Warrior (2011) 

    [*]Weekend (2011)

    [*]The Act of Killing (2012)  

    [*]Amour (2012) 

    [*]Anna Karenina (2012) 

    [*]The Avengers (2012)

    [*]Cloud Atlas (2012)

    [*]The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

    [*]End of Watch (2012) 

    [*]Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (2012) 

    [*]The Grey (2012) 

    [*]The Hunger Games (2012) 

    [*]Ice Age: Continental Drift (2012) 

    [*]Les Miserables (2012) 

    [*]Life of Pi (2012) 

    [*]Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted (2012) 

    [*]Moonrise Kingdom (2012) 

    [*]The Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012) 

    [*]Pitch Perfect (2012)

    [*]A Royal Affair (2012) 

    [*]Silver Linings Playbook (2012) 

    [*]Skyfall (2012)

    [*]Ted (2012)

    [*]Wreck-it Ralph (2012) 

    [*]Zero Dark Thirty (2012) 

    [*]After Earth (2013) 

    [*]Before Midnight (2013) 

    [*]The Butler (2013) 

    [*]Despicable Me 2 (2013)

    [*]Fruitvale Station (2013) 

    [*]The Great Gatsby (2013)

    [*]Grown Ups 2 (2013) 

    [*]Iron Man 3 (2013) 

    [*]The Kings of Summer (2013) 

    [*]Man of Steel (2013) 

    [*]Monsters University (2013)

    [*]Now You See Me (2013) 

    [*]Pacific Rim (2013) 

    [*]The Place Beyond the Pines (2013) 

    [*]Side Effects (2013)

    [*]Star Trek Into Darkness (2013) 

    [*]Upstream Color (2013)

877 films listed now! If any are missing, let me know!! Only 113 until 1000 and 363 until the 1250 nominee limit 

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what we should be doing is looking at the classic or more underground films that the original list missed, and fill in the holes with those, Not blockbusters or new films people are obsessing over because there new. you know the last list I just submitted I named to Karate Kid and the temple of Doom how many of you wanna bet that if it was 1985 Those films would have already been listed, my point being people are getting carried away.

 

I agree, although I think for this list, a film doesn't need to be great. However, it does need to be striking and/or unique. There are very few (non-great) Hollywood films in recent years that would fit the bill, though.

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