Dementeleus Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 So an $80m film is only going to do $90-100m domestically and probably double that overseas? OMG, how terrible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 They should've casted some celebrity as the villain in Cloudy 2. No one knows who Will Forte and Kristen Schaal are. Jennifer Lawrence and Hugh Jackman in the role would've had do better. Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 They should've casted some celebrity as the villain in Cloudy 2. No one knows who Will Forte and Kristen Schaal are. Jennifer Lawrence and Hugh Jackman in the role would've had do better. Ugh Celebrity casting means absolutely nothing for a kids animated movie. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 So an $80m film is only going to do $90-100m domestically and probably double that overseas? OMG, how terrible. That's not happening; the first one made more in the US than OS, and I don't see it changing this go around. It'll probably do 180M WW, which is terrible for such a huge film from Sony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The sequel had a 78 mil budget compared to the firsts 100 mil.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Celebrity casting means absolutely nothing for a kids animated movie. Now it did for Shrek though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJackSparrow Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Celebrity casting means absolutely nothing for a kids animated movie.Adam Sandler.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Celebrity casting means absolutely nothing for a kids animated movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 That's not happening; the first one made more in the US than OS, and I don't see it changing this go around. It'll probably do 180M WW, which is terrible for such a huge film from SonyI dont think its that huge of a film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Every studio goes through bad times. WB and Fox have had quite a bit.And of course Universal in 1998.Oh and then after Battle: LA Sony had no number one film till Underworld 4 Despite none of their films after Battle LA being number 1 in 2011, two of them Bad Teacher and Smurfs were hits so I guess they didn't complain too much. Most studios go through bad patches, Universal had a bad few years but has turned it around with franchises like Fast and Furious and Despicable Me as well as smaller films.Sony had an amazing 2012 with the return of Bond, Spider-man and MIB plus smaller hits like Hotel Transylvania, 2013 was a crappy year but they will bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I dont think its that huge of a film Every animated tentpole is a huge film. DM2, MU, Croods, Turbo, and CwaCoM2 all are huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 That's not happening; the first one made more in the US than OS, and I don't see it changing this go around. It'll probably do 180M WW, which is terrible for such a huge film from Sony I think it'll almost certainly do like 120/300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Cloudy will do well overseas, its only competition in many countries is Turbo which is small fry compared to last year when HT faces Madagascar 3 in many places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 It has no competition here, yet it had a horrible opening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 That's not happening; the first one made more in the US than OS, and I don't see it changing this go around. It'll probably do 180M WW, which is terrible for such a huge film from Sony Why not? The overseas market has changed a lot from 2009 to 2013. Even assuming it's closer to your assumptions, $200m WW on a $80m budget isn't bad at all. It might not be a juggernaut, but it's going to be a really solid money-maker for Sony. (Kids films sell very well and run endlessly on TV). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 90-100m coming from a 35m Weekend? 100m would be Madagascar 2 multiplier, to me that's absolute worst case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Why not? The overseas market has changed a lot from 2009 to 2013. Even assuming it's closer to your assumptions, $200m WW on a $80m budget isn't bad at all. It might not be a juggernaut, but it's going to be a really solid money-maker for Sony. (Kids films sell very well and run endlessly on TV). 80M budget without marketing. This is Sony's animated tentpole this year; I bet marketing costs is extremely high. I don't see how it gains much of a profit in theaters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Gary Scott Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I dont think the opening is horrible. If you want to say disappointing ok I can see that but it did okay. Did you really expect much more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 It has no competition here, yet it had a horrible opening...Cloudy will be opening in many places during local holidays and $35m is great OW for a quiet month, under $20m would have been a horrible opening, this is higher than summer openers like Turbo and Epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I dont think the opening is horrible. If you want to say disappointing ok I can see that but it did okay. Did you really expect much more? 10M more was the minimum in my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...