Dementeleus Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 "Nuclear wessels" is funnier than GOTG. Discuss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Everybody loves nuclear wessels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 ST4 was a movie that was not exactly embraced by ST fans when it came out, but as the years passed, people looked back on it more and more fondly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Community Manager Water Bottle Posted December 23, 2014 Community Manager Share Posted December 23, 2014 ST4 was a movie that was not exactly embraced by ST fans when it came out, but as the years passed, people looked back on it more and more fondly. The highest grossing Star Trek film before the 2009 version and the second highest RT score is ST4-at least for the original cast. ST4 helped pave the way for the misfire (and lighthearted/comedic) ST5 which almost killed the franchise. ST4 was actually embraced by ST fans when it first came out-very much so. It was considered a strong finish to the trilogy that began with the second movie. Maybe the hardcore fans had trouble embracing it but whatever. Hardcore fans are very fickle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The47th Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I like Justin Lin, but I'm afraid this means we're not going to get "real" Star Trek, we're going to get modern nuTrek trying to be even funnier like GOTG. Still, "real" Trek comes from the script, not necessarily from the director. If you don't have a coherent script with good ideas and meaningful stories...you get ST09 in the best case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 "Nuclear wessels" is funnier than GOTG. Discuss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Apparently Better Luck Tomorrow was not bad, which he directed and co-wrote. Maybe he has more in him than brainless action. I can only hope... Edited December 23, 2014 by Elessar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stingray Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Utterly terrible choice of director. Lin has no feel for tone or pacing, and can't build dramatic tension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Don't make me scared! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkelf Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Well, Lin does have some great episodes of Community under his belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Still, "real" Trek comes from the script, not necessarily from the director. If you don't have a coherent script with good ideas and meaningful stories...you get ST09 in the best case. Do you put STID over ST09? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Well maybe they will have a race between ships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Wait, I thought Lin was doing Bourne 5 for summer 2016 ? Greengrass returned finally ? This Star Trek aims which summer, 2017 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The47th Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Do you put STID over ST09? Absolutely. STID's story has actual concepts and ideas. It makes you think about the lines you are willing to cross when it comes to defend your people. Which is actually one of the main themes of the later seasons of Deep Space Nine. ST09 is great when it comes to introduce the characters, but when they are done with that you are left with a story about Romulans filled with plotholes and ultimately empty of any substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Absolutely. STID's story has actual concepts and ideas. It makes you think about the lines you are willing to cross when it comes to defend your people. Which is actually one of the main themes of the later seasons of Deep Space Nine. ST09 is great when it comes to introduce the characters, but when they are done with that you are left with a story about Romulans filled with plotholes and ultimately empty of any substance. And yet it's a worse feeling to see good ideas squandered through cop-outs and convenient deus ex machina plot devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I watched Star Trek 2009 a few days ago, really don't see what everyone thought is so great about it. I just thought it was okay, not many issues with it but also not much to like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Absolutely. STID's story has actual concepts and ideas. It makes you think about the lines you are willing to cross when it comes to defend your people. Which is actually one of the main themes of the later seasons of Deep Space Nine. ST09 is great when it comes to introduce the characters, but when they are done with that you are left with a story about Romulans filled with plotholes and ultimately empty of any substance. Agreed on all counts. STID gets a lot criticism and I just don t get it, probably the Khan thing which I don t mind at all. He s still a better villain than Hulk/ banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 And yet it's a worse feeling to see good ideas squandered through cop-outs and convenient deus ex machina plot devices. Cry me a river of magic blood darling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Agreed on all counts. STID gets a lot criticism and I just don t get it, probably the Khan thing which I don t mind at all. He s still a better villain than Hulk/ banner. Well, duh. Hulk/Banner isn't a villain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Cry me a river of magic blood darling. Not the only issue. How about Spock calling up Spock Prime to ask about Khan? He might as well had just popped in the Wrath of Khan DVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
