grim22 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: The death of the studio rom com pisses me off. There was no reason for it to happen. They got subsumed by raunchy "girls" movies and man-child comedies masquerading as romance when there's nothing romantic about them. They now mostly exist in Indies and on Netflix. The Home Video market dying killed the studio romcom basically. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Just now, TalismanRing said: The death of the studio rom com pisses me off. There was no reason for it to happen. They got subsumed by raunchy "girls" movies and man-child comedies masquerading as romance when there's nothing romantic about them. They now mostly exist in Indies and on Netflix. It's kinda interesting how much Apatow's brand of humor blanketed every comedy the major studios release 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: The death of the studio rom com pisses me off. There was no reason for it to happen. They got subsumed by raunchy "girls" movies and man-child comedies masquerading as romance when there's nothing romantic about them. They now mostly exist in Indies and on Netflix. I think that's a big reason why I liked SLP a lot. It's pretty much the only "studio" romcom in the past few years. (I'm aware it's technically indie, but it feels very studio thanks to the casting.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 43 minutes ago, grim22 said: The Home Video market dying killed the studio romcom basically. Why didn't it kill any other genre? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 minute ago, cannastop said: Why didn't it kill any other genre? Overseas markets made up the difference for most other genres like action, animation etc. And Horror went low budget guaranteeing returns. The biggest thing working against Rom-coms is also the fact that they cannot be sequelized. A rom-com is pretty much a one and done, so there are no future profits to be made there. The other genre to be hit by HV dying off was comedy, but at least with comedies, there is a sequel option, and comedies travel decently well OS (not huge, but they can gather some returns) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Mid-budget studio movies are basically said (though there's exceptions). Unfortunately for rom-coms, that's basically where they resided. They still get made on the lower-end, indie tier, and some of them are very good (MAN UP, for example). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Blankments said: After watching Bridget Jones's Diary last night, I'm all for the return of the romcom. All the ones I've seen, no matter how generic, charm the pants off me. You must be thrilled that you are getting Bridget Jones 3 this September then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 On 12/21/2015 at 0:34 PM, a2knet said: Assuming a 247m ow, SW needs a multiplier of 3.1 to overtake Avatar. In Dec, even with its mega huge ow, tough to imagine it falling below that. EDIT: wrong thread No, you were right. After Episode IX, the next installment in the Star Wars cinematic universe will be a Romcom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 27 minutes ago, cannastop said: No, you were right. After Episode IX, the next installment in the Star Wars cinematic universe will be a Romcom. Didn't episode 2 already do that? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 42 minutes ago, cannastop said: Why didn't it kill any other genre? Adult dramas that aren't awards targeted movies released at the end of the year are also pretty much dead or relegated to Indies or TV. And we get an adult thriller maybe once or twice a year when they used to be a common staple. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: Adult dramas that aren't awards targeted movies released at the end of the year are also pretty much dead or relegated to Indies or TV. And we get an adult thriller maybe once or twice a year when they used to be a common staple. Foreign companies are making them as well -- with modest budgets but nonetheless very solid filmmaking. Scandinavia in general has had a good run of movies that could essentially be Hollywood adult thrillers, they just happen to be in another language. Some of them have already been remade (INSOMNIA, LET THE RIGHT ONE IN), others might well be (HEADHUNTERS), and still others are the sorts of movies Hollywood used to excel at (THE WAVE). Rom-coms are in that general category too. I don't think what the studios are doing is healthy, in the macro sense. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, NuTella Lover of Sky Beams said: Foreign companies are making them as well -- with modest budgets but nonetheless very solid filmmaking. Scandinavia in general has had a good run of movies that could essentially be Hollywood adult thrillers, they just happen to be in another language. Some of them have already been remade (INSOMNIA, LET THE RIGHT ONE IN), others might well be (HEADHUNTERS), and still others are the sorts of movies Hollywood used to excel at (THE WAVE). Rom-coms are in that general category too. I don't think what the studios are doing is healthy, in the macro sense. But why do you care unless the movie has Sky Beams in it? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 A number of the huge budget tentpoles are secretly romcoms and help to satisfy that audience. There's actually a pretty interesting discussion to be had about how you could break the superhero movies into groups representing the more popular 80s/90s genres that have died off (at the hands of superhero movies) Covered in candy and spectacle, of course, to sell toys and premium tickets 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Chewy said: A number of the huge budget tentpoles are secretly romcoms and help to satisfy that audience. There's actually a pretty interesting discussion to be had about how you could break the superhero movies into groups representing the more popular 80s/90s genres that have died off (at the hands of superhero movies) Covered in candy and spectacle, of course, to sell toys and premium tickets OK, which ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 2 hours ago, TalismanRing said: The death of the studio rom com pisses me off. There was no reason for it to happen. They got subsumed by raunchy "girls" movies and man-child comedies masquerading as romance when there's nothing romantic about them. They now mostly exist in Indies and on Netflix. I think that's purely nostalgia talking there. Didn't people complain about formulaic romcoms back when they were popular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Just now, cannastop said: OK, which ones? Well, DEADPOOL for one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Just now, Chewy said: Well, DEADPOOL for one Are there any others? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Just now, cannastop said: I think that's purely nostalgia talking there. Didn't people complain about formulaic romcoms back when they were popular? In the same vague sense that people complain about formulaic tentpoles today Meanwhile, *other* people went off and enjoyed them 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Just now, cannastop said: Are there any others? Of course. The Pirates movies, all the Spider-Men, the first Thor, etc 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Just now, Chewy said: Of course. The Pirates movies, all the Spider-Men, the first Thor, etc But those movies are all at least 2 years old. You might say that romcoms are dead if those are the examples of romcom-like tentpoles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...