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1 hour ago, SnokesLegs said:

Purely speculation in response to the above, but I’ll spoiler tag it just in case:

 

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eh I doubt they'd care, the film is 9 years old.

 

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This is also the 3rd straight Bond film where he starts the film "retired" in some way.

 

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1 hour ago, excel1 said:


eh I doubt they'd care, the film is 9 years old.

 

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It’s still in this continuity whether it’s 9 years ago or not, and people like me would likely find it jarring. They seem to be doubling down on the “epic conclusion” angle too, so you’d have to think that the creators are hoping that people remember the events of past films, including the gravestones from Skyfall.
 

I’ve never liked that “code name” theory anyway, it always felt like it’d cheapen it. I also can’t imagine anything cheesier than Pierce Brosnan welcoming Daniel Craig into some Double-0 retirement community 😂 it wouldn’t make any sense to me for the Bond from Die Another Day to exist in the same world as the more gritty and grounded Bond of Casino Royale.

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19 hours ago, SnokesLegs said:

It’s still in this continuity whether it’s 9 years ago or not, and people like me would likely find it jarring. They seem to be doubling down on the “epic conclusion” angle too, so you’d have to think that the creators are hoping that people remember the events of past films, including the gravestones from Skyfall.
 

I’ve never liked that “code name” theory anyway, it always felt like it’d cheapen it. I also can’t imagine anything cheesier than Pierce Brosnan welcoming Daniel Craig into some Double-0 retirement community 😂 it wouldn’t make any sense to me for the Bond from Die Another Day to exist in the same world as the more gritty and grounded Bond of Casino Royale.

Only a few nerds on the Internet ever took the "James Bond Is A Code Name " theory seriously.

Everybody connected with the movies or who is familair with the Ian Fleming novels always laughed at it.

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22 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Let us see how the reviews go. This is not a hybrid release. When I saw older, I was talking adults. They will come if reviews are good. People do see movies other than MCU. 

Something people here forget.

They also forget how popular Bond is. The idea that only "Older Audeinces" care about 007  is silly.

People in this forum are heavily tilted toward CBM fans. Outside that circle, you don't see much talk about Venom 2 beating 007 at the Box Office.

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Just wrapped up You Only Live Twice.

 

These Connery movies are fun to watch and have good individual elements to them. But the one problem this stint has faced is James Bond himself. Connery's pretty solid in the role (though by YOLT, you can tell he was starting to check out), but Bond is such a flat, boring character that it's hard to get all that invested into these storylines. Honestly, Connery's Bond being such a bore only heightens the creepy, problematic horndog aspects on the character, which Craig's interpretation was largely, but not flawlessly, able to skirt away from.* 

 

*Yes, I know these movies are a product of their times and Bond is supposed to be a womanizer. No, that doesn't excuse problematic, poorly-written garbage. Especially when movies like Thunderball and You Only Live Twice have little else going for them, so you're just left with a creepy guy who in the latter dons yellowface in a gross, Orientalist depiction of Japan.

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I think Bond's this weird franchise that is better remembered for its Highs than its whole collective work. Cause let me tell you, I rewatched a bunch of these when TCM was showing them, and the Roger Moore and Timothy Dalton ones are sexist hooey.  The Connery stuff is a mixed bag, yet Goldfinger more than makes up for it. Of the old ones, On Her Majesty's Secret Service might be my favorite cause DIANA RIGG.

 

Yet, one the other hand, cause of my age, I have SUPER fond memories of Pierce Brosnan.  Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies are amazing.  Goldeneye might be my vote for Best Bond Movie Ever.  

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Cap said:

I think Bond's this weird franchise that is better remembered for its Highs than its whole collective work. Cause let me tell you, I rewatched a bunch of these when TCM was showing them, and the Roger Moore and Timothy Dalton ones are sexist hooey.  The Connery stuff is a mixed bag, yet Goldfinger more than makes up for it. Of the old ones, On Her Majesty's Secret Service might be my favorite cause DIANA RIGG.

 

Yet, one the other hand, cause of my age, I have SUPER fond memories of Pierce Brosnan.  Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies are amazing.  Goldeneye might be my vote for Best Bond Movie Ever.  

 

 

For me, the best Bond movie rotates between GoldenEye, Goldfinger and Casino Royale. These 3 stand above the rest as 1A, 1B and 1C.

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Goldfinger's largely entertaining (Oddjob is my hero and the golf sequence is brilliant), but it also has probably the most sexist moment of the Connery era. The way Bond forces himself onto Pussy Galore (that name lmao) in that barn is just so repugnant and awful that it just completely took me out of the rest of the film.

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43 minutes ago, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

Just wrapped up You Only Live Twice.

 

These Connery movies are fun to watch and have good individual elements to them. But the one problem this stint has faced is James Bond himself. Connery's pretty solid in the role (though by YOLT, you can tell he was starting to check out), but Bond is such a flat, boring character that it's hard to get all that invested into these storylines. Honestly, Connery's Bond being such a bore only heightens the creepy, problematic horndog aspects on the character, which Craig's interpretation was largely, but not flawlessly, able to skirt away from.* 

 

*Yes, I know these movies are a product of their times and Bond is supposed to be a womanizer. No, that doesn't excuse problematic, poorly-written garbage. Especially when movies like Thunderball and You Only Live Twice have little else going for them, so you're just left with a creepy guy who in the latter dons yellowface in a gross, Orientalist depiction of Japan.

 

YOLT is by far my least favorite Connery but Connery sleepwalking through the role >>>>>>>> Craig

 

Skyfall is the biggest load of misogyny ever perpetrated by a 007 film -  after The Man With The Golden Gun but at least with the  latter producers didn't bleat on about how modern and progressive it was.

 

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6 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

YOLT is by far my least favorite Connery but Connery sleepwalking through the role >>>>>>>> Craig

 

Skyfall is the biggest load of misogyny ever perpetrated by a 007 film -  after The Man With The Golden Gun but at least with the  latter producers didn't bleat on about how modern and progressive it was.

 

That's why I didn't say flawlessly. I do agree that everything revolving around Severine was a complete disaster.

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Just now, Eric and the Ten Rings said:

That's why I didn't say flawlessly. I do agree that everything revolving around Severine was a complete disaster.

 

Hers is the absolute worst  but add in the treatment and story resolutions of Eve and M and it's just rancid.

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Presales in Denmark are INSANE. It just started.
I just spend 1,5 hour online waiting for OD tickets.
I think Bond 25 will sell more tickets today in presales than Dune 4,5 OW total.

 

Last time it was this crazy was for Potter 8. Not even Endgame was this rushed

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17 hours ago, DAJK said:

After less than 48 hours this has passed Venom 2’s total presales in Canada.

Venom should have opened on 24th. Sony's decisions are really frustrating.

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13 hours ago, dudalb said:

Something people here forget.

They also forget how popular Bond is. The idea that only "Older Audeinces" care about 007  is silly.

People in this forum are heavily tilted toward CBM fans. Outside that circle, you don't see much talk about Venom 2 beating 007 at the Box Office.

I am just speaking from experience. Bond is not super massive with younger generations in America. Spectre made less than Venom 1 in the US. Nobody is denying Bond will be gigantic in Europe and even Canada. 

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halfway through the rewatch. For your eyes only was the only one I remembered absolutely nothing about. and yes after rewatching it i can see why. still not as bad as thunderball though, that's still at the bottom of my ranking so far.

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