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14 minutes ago, 4815162342 said:

 

It's a insanely ridiculous final hand but it's more cinematic than Bond bluffing Mads with a 2-7 offsuit I guess

 

 

Though now that I think about it, Bond bluffing with nothing, Le Chiffre calling and pushing him all in with both players' cards face up, and Bond getting saved on the river would be extremely cinematic

Bond has the nuts on the turn! He made the right bet with the check after the river but frankly he got lucky with some of the reckless betting from the other players - especially the guy with went all in with a flush draw out there and without a very high kicker. Mads honestly probably doesn't make the right call either - for all he knows one of the other three all ins has an ace with an 8, which would be the nuts outside a straight flush.

 

EDIT: I was wrong on the Asian guy betting with a flush - he had a king kicker, not bad.

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3 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:

I actually rewatched Skyfall over the weekend and liked it much better than I remembered - and I remembered liking it a good amount! I thought it was absolutely terrific and handily one of the best blockbusters of the decade. That said, Casino Royale probably the best blockbuster of the entire 21st century (yup), so it still wins this round for sure.

 

As a poker player, the last hand in CR is so funny in retrospect. Only in movies!

Yeah I remember thinking I've never had a hand as good as either of these and they had them all at once 😂

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49 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

Begging for the role by a line-up of hopefuls should be fun. 

*cough* Cavill *cough*

 

52 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

Nothing will top HiddleSwift fiasco

Funny enough, I think Joe Alwyn has a better chance of bagging the role than Hiddleston.

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11 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Based on tracking thread this might disappoint with a 50m opening. Maybe should have waited until older audiences are more comfortable going back back to the cinema

50M is the low range, could be 60M and Bond isn't a pre sale heavy franchise, so tracking is helpful but it matter the most in final days.

 

 

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1 hour ago, John Marston said:

Based on tracking thread this might disappoint with a 50m opening. Maybe should have waited until older audiences are more comfortable going back back to the cinema

Older crowd are way more sensitive to Covid-19 number. But good news the case is trending down now so maybe they are waiting for even lower number of cases or death to purchase ticket.    

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I think you guys are thinking extreme when its comes to "older audience". I dont think boomers are the core audience. Its more adults who dont have the same urgency in booking tickets so much in advance. People would like to delay decisions as late as possible and there will be no shortage of shows/tickets to purchase anyway. 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said:

Oh this will probably be much longer

With MGM distributing it in the US, I wouldn’t be surprised if it got a full pre-pandemic style theatrical run. Unless they really want to get it out on Blu Ray for Christmas of course.

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4 hours ago, 35MM-18 said:

*cough* Cavill *cough*

 

Funny enough, I think Joe Alwyn has a better chance of bagging the role than Hiddleston.

 

I can safely bet good money that it won't be Loki or Superman. 

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4 hours ago, 35MM-18 said:

*cough* Cavill *cough*

 

Funny enough, I think Joe Alwyn has a better chance of bagging the role than Hiddleston.

 

Ha ha! I don't think Hiddles has a shot. I think once an actor becomes a role meme it's over.

 

What @RRA said. 

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My intention was to paint Cavill as one of those people "begging for a role", since he can't seem to shut up about how much he wants it, not a vote supporting his Sisyphean campaign.

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Bond watch is now up to Man with the Golden Gun. Please tell me that Louisiana cop doesn't come back after this. Easy contender for the worst character in the history of cinema.

 

And I guess if we're talking new Bond, while I am still in the Henry Golding camp (yes I know Snake Eyes stunk. I don't care), I do think Eon's gonna go with a unknown that will sneak up on all of us. I don't have any concrete reasoning, but it just kind of feels right.

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2 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

I think you guys are thinking extreme when its comes to "older audience". I dont think boomers are the core audience. Its more adults who dont have the same urgency in booking tickets so much in advance. People would like to delay decisions as late as possible and there will be no shortage of shows/tickets to purchase anyway. 

 

 

 

I think you're exactly right. "Older" seems to be overemphasized. Certainly, Bond fans range from 8 to 80 but the major audience demographic is 25 to 45. 

 

 

"Hollywood.com analyzed Facebook mentions of the film Skyfall shortly after its release and found that among men, those aged 25 to 34 made the most frequent mentions and that mentions in the United Kingdom exceeded those in other countries. It found that 52% of the Facebook users who described themselves as Bond fans were female.[16] Fan demographics are considered by the filmmakers and the firms seeking product placement. Smirnoff vodka, which had been featured in Bond films since Dr. No, was replaced with Finlandia vodka in Die Another Day. A Smirnoff representative said that the company had lost interest in the Bond audience, whose major demographic they saw as men aged 25 to 45, and that it was seeking younger, more social customers aged 21 to 29.[17]"

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_fandom

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3 minutes ago, 35MM-18 said:

My intention was to paint Cavill as one of those people "begging for a role", since he can't seem to shut up about how much he wants it, not a vote supporting his Sisyphean campaign.

I know and didn't mean to suggest you did, but alot of folks online don't know any better. This happens every time a new Bond is speculated. Hell I still remember when tabloids back in the 2000s pre-Craig they claimed Russell Crowe and Hugh Jackman were up for Bond. Or early 1990s when Liam Neeson was talked up. 

 

Thing is age is an issue and Hiddleston might be too old, nevermind he's clearly got an open-ended franchise commitment that might conflict with Bond and yeah EON don't want that. 

 

Cavill could've been a good Bond in an AU if the stars had aligned differently, same with Clive Owen (remember when he was a popular 007 fan pick?*) or Idris Elba, who unfortunately aged out. 

 

How EON casts and how the Internet/tabloids casts are two different metrics, to say the least. 

 

*=It got so obnoxious online, I forgot movie it was (Steve Martin's Pink Panther?) they had him do a cameo making a reference to that fancasting. 

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20 minutes ago, Dear Eric Hansen said:

Bond watch is now up to Man with the Golden Gun. Please tell me that Louisiana cop doesn't come back after this. Easy contender for the worst character in the history of cinema.

 

And I guess if we're talking new Bond, while I am still in the Henry Golding camp (yes I know Snake Eyes stunk. I don't care), I do think Eon's gonna go with a unknown that will sneak up on all of us. I don't have any concrete reasoning, but it just kind of feels right.

Yeah of all the friggin secondary people to bring back for a second movie, they bring HIM back? One of the worst 007 movies, just flat and wasting Christopher Friggin Lee or also wasting a simple yet cool for Bond levels pitch (duel with the world's top assassin!) 

 

As for who they'll get for Bond, they usually don't go after already big name folks. Think of their track record. Dalton? Character actor, been on their radar for almost 20 years by that point. Brosnan? TV actor, was Bond before infamously being screwed but stars aligned nicely for him to get his justice, Moore? TV star. Craig? Character actor, but not a star. The only true nobody they ever hired was George Lazenby. 

 

I knew recent press has been whether we'll get a "Jane Bond" (yeah No) but honestly it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we get a POC Bond for the next one. Not sure if Golding ticks off the boxes (not like he got good notices from Snake Eyes*) but that would be a stark way to say the least of differentiating yourself from not just the Craig era, but who came before. Be fascinating to see what tone EON will adopt for this new casting, as they've tried to do when a new guy puts on the tux. 

 

*=Then again that was Snake Eyes. Nobody came out of that well. 

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