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DORY                                       INCREDIBLES 2

                                                 OD (Wed): 607K

OD (Thu): 500K                         Thursday: 369K

Friday: 750K                              Friday: 653K

Saturday: 1.7M                          Saturday: 1.477M

Sunday: 2.4M                            Sunday: 1.647M

OW: 5.55M (incl. previews)        OW: 4.2M (4.810 total gross)

Monday: 400K (-83%)               Monday: 276K (-83%)

Tuesday: 420K (+5%)                Tuesday: 265K (-4%)

Wednesday: 580K (+38%)         Wednesday: 316K (+19%)

Thursday: 290K (-50%)              Thursday: 205K (-35%)

Friday: 470K (+62%)                  Friday: 390K (+90%)

Saturday: 1.0M (+113%)            Saturday: 896K (+130%)

Sunday: 1.12M

2nd Weekend: 3.04M (-46%)

2nd Monday: 180K

2nd Tuesday: 200K

2nd Wednesday: 290K

3rd Thursday: 137K

 

Nothing exciting, but at least it's not experiencing Dory's atrocious increases over the weekend.

 

Big bump for The Nun, almost 400K for a jump over 90%.

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WEEKEND ACTUALS 27-30 SEPTEMBER

- all in million € -

 

-RANK- MOVIE WEEKEND GROSS HOLD TOTAL GROSS PROJECTED GROSS
1 Incredibles 2 2.49 -41% 8.28 12.10
2 The Nun 1.06 -56% 4.24 5.80
3 Blackkklansman 0.40 NEW 0.40 1.00
4 Ricchi di Fantasia (It) 0.33 NEW 0.33 0.90
5 Michelangelo - Infinito (It) 0.31 NEW 0.31 0.60
6 I Still See You 0.23 NEW 0.23 0.50
7 The Man Who Killed Don Quixote (GB) 0.20 NEW 0.20 0.50
8 Tout le Monde Debout (Fr) 0.19 NEW 0.19 0.40
9 Una Storia Senza Nome 0.17 -50% 0.62 0.80
10 The Equalizer 2 0.15 -56% 1.37 1.50

 

 

Abysmal weekend. Not like that's a shocker.

People shouldn't be tricked and take I2's drop as a good one. All the openers bombed and they didn't get away any screen from it. The drop should have definitely been under 40%, which was still perfectly in play until Sunday, when the movie decided to increase by less than 10%, losing a good 200K.

A 2.49M weekend is only 15% above Dory's 3rd weekend, and it's not like that movie was a huge phenomenon here.

 

Hotel Transylvania has a solid chance of beating it. It was at 8.68M after a 2nd weekend of 2.30M, and I2 has to face Smallfoot and Venom next weekend. Can't believe it turned out to be such a close race.

 

Actually if it follows Dory's multiplier after its 2.13M weekend, Incredibles 2 will even fail to get to 11M. o.O

 

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600K OD for Venom, pretty good I must say. 30/35% higher than Justice Leage and Black Panther (both around 7M total gross). Theorically it's potentially enough for a double-digit gross, but I think it will stop at 8.something.

I2 down a little more than 50% on Thursday, could have been worse. Of course now it can't get another "wrong" weekend IM.

Weak OD for Smallfoot, less than half of I2's Thursday. It only attracts kids, okay, but 3M is probably the best it can hope for, with 2M being a more realistical outlook.

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700K for Venom on Friday. Should be a weekend between 3.5 and 4.0. If it managed to exceed the 10M mark it would be a great result, as most strong SH films here tend to stop between 6 and 9 millions (Avengers obviously doesn't count).

 

200K for Incredibles 2, very solid rise (over 100%), probably helped by weather worsening over the weekend. Let's wait for the Sat and Sun jumps.

 

85K for Smallfoot, which was #4 right behind The Nun. It will certainly get the third spot over the weekend, though.

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Good news. Unbelievable, isn't it? :P

 

1.29M for Venom, about an 85% rise over Friday and a total of 2.6M. It even has a slight chance of opening above I2 o.O

 

Incredibles 2 finally got it right: 210% increase, down less than 30% from last Saturday. Now please a 30% increase on Sunday.

 

As expected Smallfoot overtook The Nun (308K vs 244K). Jumps were huge for these films, too.

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WEEKEND ACTUALS 4-7 OCTOBER

- all in million € -

 

-RANK- MOVIE WEEKEND GROSS HOLD TOTAL GROSS PROJECTED GROSS
1 Venom 3.73 NEW 3.73 9.00
2 Incredibles 2 1.56 -38% 10.31 12.60
3 Smallfoot 0.84 NEW 0.84 2.30
4 The Nun 0.55 -48% 5.06 5.80
5 The Wife 0.45 NEW 0.45 1.00
6 Blackkklansman 0.34 -15% 0.90 1.50
7 Un Nemico che ti Vuole Bene (It) 0.24 NEW 0.24 0.60
8 Pope Francis 0.22 NEW 0.22 0.60
9 Ricchi di Fantasia (It) 0.22 -39% 0.62 1.0
10 Werk ohne Autor (Ge) 0.14 NEW 0.14 0.40

 

Great debut for Venom! The opening is more than 20% higher than Thor: Ragnarock's, and already 80% of Ant Man 2's total gross.

On paper a total gross barely over 10M is possible, though it faces some strong competition next weekend, and WOM may have something to say, too. I'd go with a total slightly above Thor 3 (8.8).

 

Not bad for I2, but it could have been better. Unfortunately it's now pretty clear that the movie shows on Sundays a weakness that usually doesn't belong to animated movies (this weekend it even managed a very very tiny drop of 0.1% on Sunday, and I don't remember the last time an animated film didn't increase over Saturday). Still, it's a sub-40% drop against Venom and Smallfoot, and it's a drop that most likely guarantees a finish above Hotel Transylvania 3 (now at 12.16M after a 70K weekend).

 

Smallfoot recovered very well on Sat-Sun, but it's still nowhere near a success.

 

Also, kudos to Blackkklansman for the superb hold!

 

Next weekend: A Star is Born, Predator, Johnny English Strikes Again. Venom will fight against Bradley Cooper's musical for the first place, though I'd love to see Johnny English pulling the upset.

 

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Venom and A Star is Born are neck and neck, both around 300K Friday with the latter having a small advantage.

Johnny English didn't start well, less than 150K Friday.

 

The Incredibles 2 and Smallfoot are, like Venom, down more than 60% from last Friday! o.O

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WEEKEND ACTUALS 11-14 OCTOBER

- all in million € -

 

-RANK- MOVIE WEEKEND GROSS HOLD TOTAL GROSS PROJECTED GROSS
1 A Star is Born 1.71 NEW 1.71 4.90
2 Venom 1.63 -56% 6.40 8.60
3 Johnny English 3 0.91 NEW 0.91 2.20
4 Incredibles 2 0.61 -61% 11.13 12.10
5 Croc Blanc (Fr) 0.56 NEW 0.56 1.50
6 The Predator 0.49 NEW 0.49 1.10
7 Smallfoot 0.35 -58% 1.31 2.00
8 La Fuitina Sbagliata (It) 0.33 NEW 0.33 0.80
9 The Wife 0.27 -40% 0.83 1.10
10 The Nun 0.20 -64% 0.14 0.40

 

 

Will this ever end?

Awful drops for every movie (even The Wife - usually films like that hold very well on their 2nd weekend, and crumble quickly afterwards).

Venom limited the damage, just because it didn't lose many showtimes. Despite the weak hold and the huge amount of showtimes, ASiB barely beat it.

Smallfoot managed to drop close to 60% on its 2nd weekend, what a feat! It lost very little showtimes and only had to deal with Croc Blanc as a competitor.

Incredibles 2 ... managed to make its chance of passing HT3 plummet from 95% to 30%. It desperately needs a sub-40% drop next weekend. Not like I have any hope about that.

Weak for JE3, nasty for Predator. Even for the nth local comedy, but at least that's good news.

 

Next week a bunch of weaklings (Soldado, Goosebumps 2, Happytime Murders, Searching) whose only job will be take screen away from holdovers to make the weekend look even worse.

 

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Among recent titles:

 

Black Panther: 37% drop

Thor Ragnarock: 43% drop

Justice League: 51% drop

Spider Man Homecoming: 52% drop

GotG 2: 49% drop

 

Thor 3, the most comparable title, was at 6.9M after a 2nd weekend of 1.7M.

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The weekend was down 40% from the same frame last year.

Only one movie (A Star is Born, down less than 30% from its OW) above freaking 1M euros. 5 new openers combining for just a little more than 2 millions (...), Venom fading fast and I2 getting another harsh drop.

No need for a chart, really.

 

Next weekend...Halloween! Let's see if we can get some excitement.

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So the dullness ended, and it ended with...

 

...The Nutcracker and the Four Realms :thinking:

Its 5-day opening is greatly inflated by Thursday being a holiday, but we're still talking about a debut quite close to the Incredibles' 4.8M euros.

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On 11/3/2018 at 3:46 AM, Omni said:

So the dullness ended, and it ended with...

 

...The Nutcracker and the Four Realms :thinking:

Its 5-day opening is greatly inflated by Thursday being a holiday, but we're still talking about a debut quite close to the Incredibles' 4.8M euros.

With $5.5m it's already the 20th biggest film of the year...

 

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/italy/yearly/

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WEEKEND ACTUALS 1-4 NOVEMBER

- all in million € -

 

-RANK- MOVIE WEEKEND GROSS HOLD TOTAL GROSS PROJECTED GROSS
1 The Nutcracker and the 4 Realms 4.26 NEW 4.73 9.80
2 The House with a Clock in its Walls 1.62 NEW 1.94 3.90
3 First Man 1.53 NEW 1.57 3.70
4 Ti Presento Sofia (It) 1.43 NEW 1.58 3.50
5 Halloween 0.93 -21% 3.03 3.60
6 A Star is Born 0.77 -20% 6.03 7.20
7 Euforia (It) 0.59 +10% 1.26 2.00
8 Goosebumps 2 0.42 -30% 1.85 2.10
9 The Children Act 0.39 -25% 1.58 1.90
10 Hell Fest 0.36 NEW 0.57 1.00

 

 

The weekend was insanely inflated by the holiday on Thursday, kids not going to school on Friday/Saturday and bad weather. So the multipliers from this weekend will be far worse than usual.

Still, The Nutcraker opened higher than any other film of this season (August 2018 - July 2019): its 4-day weekend's 14% above Venom, 1% above Incredibles 2, 5% above Hotel Transylvania 3. On a normal weekend, the opening would have been at least 30% lower, as the Monday figure (133K) being on par with Incredibles 2's SECOND Monday shows. If now The Nutcracker follows I2's path, it will make a little less than 9M euros, but with much less competition in the next weeks and the novelty factor still there, I wouldn't be surprised by a double-digit finish.

Among holdovers, A Star is Born is very likely going to get the tremendous achievement (at least nowadays) of having a multiplier higher than 4x from the 4-day opening without any considerable boost by holidays. I really doubt Bohemian Rhapsody will go that high.

 

The 18-19 season so far (Monday included):

 

1) Hotel Transylvania 3 > 12.24 millions

2) The Incredibles 2 > 11.93 (certain to finish below HT3 now, likely by at least 200K)

3) Venom > 8.42 (almost done)

4) A Star is Born > 6.09

5) The Nun > 5.46

6) Mission Impossible Fallout > 5.24

7) The Meg > 5.02

8 ) The Nutcracker and the Four Realms > 4.91

9) Ant-Man and the Wasp > 4.89

10) Mamma Mia 2 > 3.39

 

Next week: if I'm not mistaken, nothing relevant. Hunter Killer and Night School open, but they'll be lucky to make one million combined.

 

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WEEKEND ACTUALS 8-11 NOVEMBER

- all in million € -

 

-RANK- MOVIE WEEKEND GROSS HOLD TOTAL GROSS PROJECTED GROSS
1 The Nutcracker and the 4 Realms 1.74 -59% 7.03 9.60
2 Tutti lo Sanno (It) 0.70 NEW 0.70 1.80
3 Notti Magiche (It) 0.66 NEW 0.66 1.70
4 Ti Presento Sofia (It) 0.61 -57% 2.30 3.00
5 First Man 0.60 -60% 2.40 3.00
6 The House with a Clock in its Walls 0.59 -64% 2.70 3.40
7 Hunter Killer 0.41 NEW 0.41 0.80
8 Overlord 0.29 NEW 0.29 0.50
9 A Star is Born 0.26 -67% 6.09 6.40
10 Euforia (It) 0.14 -74% 1.40 1.50

 

 

Awful holds after a highly inflated weekend.

A Star is Born a lot, and I should have expected it as the movie is already perceived as "old", and lost many showings to the local openers.

No 4x multiplier after all. Not even close, actually.

 

 

The 18-19 season so far:

1) Hotel Transylvania 3 > 12.24 millions (-)

2) The Incredibles 2 > 11.98 (+0.05 increase over last week)

3) Venom > 8.42 (+0.05)

4) The Nutcracker and the Four Realms > 7.03 (+2.24)

5) A Star is Born > 6.09 (+0.35)

6) The Nun > 5.46 (-)

7) Mission Impossible Fallout > 5.24 (-)

8 ) The Meg > 5.02 (-)

9) Ant-Man and the Wasp > 4.89 (-)

10) Mamma Mia 2 > 3.39 (-)

 

Next week: Fantastic Beasts 2. The first one grossed more than 15M, so it apparently shouldn't be a problem for the sequel to overtake HT3 for the top spot of the season. But considering the state of the italian box office, a 25% decline and a total below 12M euros has to be taken as a possibility. Also, Nutcracker being surprisingly successful certainly didn't help. We'll see.

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