Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[cdsacken]

3 minutes ago, Elessar said:

So 3d was awesome when Avatar was around but now it sucks? Make up your mind, people...

 

Or rather, let me tell you what sucks, badly done 3d conversions suck, theaters with bad equipment suck. Inherently, 3d doesn't.

It was innovative now it's trash. Avatar 2 will do great with other premium formats like Dolby and IMAX. However they will never get the level of adoption of 3d like they did back then. 3d is horrible imo

[Elessar]

2 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

It was innovative now it's trash. 

So back then it was innovative and trash, now it's just trash. Got it.

[gary]

36 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

It was innovative now it's trash. Avatar 2 will do great with other premium formats like Dolby and IMAX. However they will never get the level of adoption of 3d like they did back then. 3d is horrible imo

Alita would like to have a word with you on that. Its 3D attendance was bigger than its flat attendance.

[FrozenUnicorn]

1 hour ago, gary said:

How many here think Avatar will get a re-release under Disneys banner for the first time to get people hyped for Avatar 2 ?

 

Wouldn't surprise me. When Toy Story 3 was released the previous films got some rereleases.

Edited June 24, 2019 by FrozenUnicorn

[Deuce66]

Too bad they smeared the image on the monitor in the background....nothing left to chance on this production. 

 

 

 

[TomCruiseTop]

2 hours ago, Deep Wang said:

Based on the calculations

That isn't how the scientific method works Wang. It is based on measurement, not calculations. Calculations can contribute to theory but that theory must then be proven with evidence. 

 

The charge on an electron is not so because we have calculated it (although we can), it is because it has been measured. 

 

Where did you go to school, so I can add to my big map of failed states. 

[Deep Wang]

19 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said:

That isn't how the scientific method works Wang. It is based on measurement, not calculations. Calculations can contribute to theory but that theory must then be proven with evidence. 

 

The charge on an electron is not so because we have calculated it (although we can), it is because it has been measured. 

 

Where did you go to school, so I can add to my big map of failed states. 

You are the one that specifically mentioned the scientific method when talking about this!  As if that is the only possible solution!

 

I guess I'm only still going because I'm really confused why you care about deflecting this so much.  Why is it so important to you that one movie from your favorite director that made a lot money, can't be 100% proven to have sold more tickets than the other movie from your favorite director that made even more money?

 

 

 

 

[Hydrogen]

35 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said:

That isn't how the scientific method works Wang. It is based on measurement, not calculations. Calculations can contribute to theory but that theory must then be proven with evidence. 

 

The charge on an electron is not so because we have calculated it (although we can), it is because it has been measured. 

 

Where did you go to school, so I can add to my big map of failed states. 

@JCS watching you blow out DW so many times makes me cry with laughter 

[Deep Wang]

56 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said:

Where did you go to school, so I can add to my big map of failed states. 

6 of my 12 grades were in fact spent in a school district that now no longer exists because it was so terrible.  

 

They did however go to the football state championship game 6 years in a row and won three of them. so yay?

 

[cdsacken]

2 hours ago, gary said:

Alita would like to have a word with you on that. Its 3D attendance was bigger than its flat attendance.

Because it's flat attendance was horrible in DOM

[vansen]

It's a credit once again to James Cameron that people are so desperate to beat him they decide to change the rules decades after he entered and repeatedly won the game in dominating, blowout fashion. The sole deciding rule of Hollywood box office has always been how much money people pay to see your movie. That's why admissions aren't even tracked in the US. If they were actually more important than money, they'd be given away for free. 

 

Even as an anti-capitalist I understand that if you can make more money by charging much higher prices than your competitors, all the better and all the more impressive. Gone with the Wind and plenty of popular movies did it in the past, often with percentage premiums far beyond what Avatar charged, yet that's commonly ignored and has never been properly accounted for in any of these "admissions" rankings. 

 

If people want to go on arguing that selling something for $10 is every bit as good and noteworthy as selling it for $20, they are welcome to do that and I hope we can do a lot of business together in the future.

[NCsoft]

52 minutes ago, vansen said:

Even as an anti-capitalist I understand that if you can make more money by charging much higher prices than your competitors, all the better and all the more impressive. Gone with the Wind and plenty of popular movies did it in the past, often with percentage premiums far beyond what Avatar charged, yet that's commonly ignored and has never been properly accounted for in any of these "admissions" rankings. 

  

If people want to go on arguing that selling something for $10 is every bit as good and noteworthy as selling it for $20, they are welcome to do that and I hope we can do a lot of business together in the future.

Well said! I've never argued from this point of view before, but this is indeed very true!

Also as someone with strong socialistic leanings yet strangely obsessed with box office, we both appreciate the irony 

 

[Pure Spirit]

 

2 hours ago, vansen said:

It's a credit once again to James Cameron that people are so desperate to beat him they decide to change the rules decades after he entered and repeatedly won the game in dominating, blowout fashion. The sole deciding rule of Hollywood box office has always been how much money people pay to see your movie. That's why admissions aren't even tracked in the US. If they were actually more important than money, they'd be given away for free. 

 

Even as an anti-capitalist I understand that if you can make more money by charging much higher prices than your competitors, all the better and all the more impressive. Gone with the Wind and plenty of popular movies did it in the past, often with percentage premiums far beyond what Avatar charged, yet that's commonly ignored and has never been properly accounted for in any of these "admissions" rankings. 

 

If people want to go on arguing that selling something for $10 is every bit as good and noteworthy as selling it for $20, they are welcome to do that and I hope we can do a lot of business together in the future.

James Cameron, bringing filthy centrist capitalists like myself and anti-capitalists together. Is there anything that man can’t do?  I guess he can’t run for President because he’s a goofy Canadian 

[The GOAT]

so will they delay this movie again?

[NCsoft]

4 minutes ago, The GOAT said:

so will they delay this movie again?

I think they will stick to the Dec 2021 date this time.

Edited June 25, 2019 by NCsoft

[Pure Spirit]

15 minutes ago, The GOAT said:

so will they delay this movie again?

James Cameron release dates transcend time and space.

[Pure Spirit]

6 hours ago, Deuce66 said:

Too bad they smeared the image on the monitor in the background....nothing left to chance on this production. 

 

 

 

Between casting her and that Flight of the Conchords guy my pants got a bit tighter. 

[JimiQ]

@JamesCameronScholar when are you promoting that intern guy that successfully predicted EG will outgross Avatar? He has obviously some good sixth sense or something. Might be useful.

[TomCruiseTop]

2 hours ago, JimiQ said:

@JamesCameronScholar when are you promoting that intern guy that successfully predicted EG will outgross Avatar? He has obviously some good sixth sense or something. Might be useful.

When EG outgrosses Avatar. 

[TomCruiseTop]

Can someone tell me what A's original run was? I'm seeing people say 49 something, I was under the impression it was 55 OR, and 88 after re-release?