Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[Macleod]

2 hours ago, Deuce66 said:

 

Unless New Zealand lifts their travel restrictions and the mandatory 14 day quarantine, the US crew that needs to go over will be staying put for a while longer. 

 

 

My understanding is that Cameron and many other key production personell remained in NZ for the time-being, so I think they have no problem going ahead with various elements as soon as they can.  Landau may be back in Cali.  But I have an acquaintance who is connected to this (seemingly never-ending) production...who is not of NZ descent...and they have stayed put in NZ, if that gives you any indication. 

[SpiderByte]

So if this virus is in fact long term, and may last for years like some have been predicting...

That might be a big factor in this not beating the first one

 

(though personally I've thought that'd be the case for a long time, barring some new technological innovation like glasses free 3D)

[RealLyre]

 

 

[Deuce66]

Here's a very detailed analysis of the first movie that might be interesting for anyone who wants to dig beneath the surface of the movie's themes. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4c8avw6qo8

 

 

[Deuce66]

From the upcoming May 14 issue of Empire.

 

“It's putting a major crimp in our stride here,” he said when speaking to Empire for the new Celebration Of Cinema issue. “I want to get back to work on Avatar, which right now we're not allowed to do under state emergency laws or rules. So it's all on hold right now.” Speaking from his Malibu home, the filmmaker explained that he was about to travel halfway across the globe for a phase of the shoot before lockdown put paid to those plans. “We were about to shoot down in New Zealand, so that got pushed. We're trying to get back to it as quick as we can.”

 

Still, Cameron seemed optimistic that shooting might not be held off for too long – and that it won’t affect the current 17 December 2021 release date. “On the bright side, New Zealand seems to have been very effective in controlling the virus and their goal is not mitigation, but eradication, which they believe that they can do with aggressive contact tracing and testing,” he explained. “So there's a very good chance that our shoot might be delayed a couple of months, but we can still do it. So that's good news.” And with so much of the film’s world being brought to life by VFX artists, digital work on the film is still underway. “We've got everybody – everybody at Weta Digital and Lightstorm – working from home to the extent that that is possible,” says Cameron. “But my work is on the stage doing the virtual cameras and so on, so I can do a bit of editing, but it's not great for me.”

[Deuce66]

 

Zoe Saldana, Sam Worthington, Kate Winslet and Cliff Curtis enjoying a moment at the surface of the 900,000 gallon performance capture tank that we built for the Avatar sequels.

 

 

 

[DeeCee]

9 hours ago, Deuce66 said:

 

Zoe Saldana, Sam Worthington, Kate Winslet and Cliff Curtis enjoying a moment at the surface of the 900,000 gallon performance capture tank that we built for the Avatar sequels.

 

 

 

1.5 m

 

[Sheldon Cr]

On 5/7/2020 at 6:37 PM, Eric Atreides said:

 

Anyone see these new set photos. 😎 A titan member n the scene. Loving kate is going to be in this. She patched things up with Jc I guess..lol

 

 

[Sheldon Cr]

On 5/11/2020 at 4:53 PM, Deuce66 said:

From the upcoming May 14 issue of Empire.

 

“It's putting a major crimp in our stride here,” he said when speaking to Empire for the new Celebration Of Cinema issue. “I want to get back to work on Avatar, which right now we're not allowed to do under state emergency laws or rules. So it's all on hold right now.” Speaking from his Malibu home, the filmmaker explained that he was about to travel halfway across the globe for a phase of the shoot before lockdown put paid to those plans. “We were about to shoot down in New Zealand, so that got pushed. We're trying to get back to it as quick as we can.”

 

Still, Cameron seemed optimistic that shooting might not be held off for too long – and that it won’t affect the current 17 December 2021 release date. “On the bright side, New Zealand seems to have been very effective in controlling the virus and their goal is not mitigation, but eradication, which they believe that they can do with aggressive contact tracing and testing,” he explained. “So there's a very good chance that our shoot might be delayed a couple of months, but we can still do it. So that's good news.” And with so much of the film’s world being brought to life by VFX artists, digital work on the film is still underway. “We've got everybody – everybody at Weta Digital and Lightstorm – working from home to the extent that that is possible,” says Cameron. “But my work is on the stage doing the virtual cameras and so on, so I can do a bit of editing, but it's not great for me.”

Thanks deuce for heads up. This is the only no behemoth I'm truly going to be a must see for me.👍

[Sheldon Cr]

On 5/2/2020 at 12:38 AM, charlie Jatinder said:

Gonna change some

 

Domestic: $500mn (The Lion King level)

Overseas: $1100mn (Slightly better than The Lion King in some markets)

China: $500mn 

 

Total: $2100mn.

Charlie will add.. Though I'm thinking up to 3 billion more. Rem Cameron fans come to his epics. So the results will be immense. They say it blows everything away. Just like its predecessors Titanic and Avatar1

[Sheldon Cr]

Here are some of the early predicts so far. Everyone please help me update👍

 

Avatar 2 Dec 17th, 2021

 

Kal...1.12b dom, 3.8b OS( Really would love Avatar2 to hit 1bil to 1.2 bil or Better from China alone)

 

5.0B WW

 

Ncsoft... 3.7Bww

 

 

 

Jimbo...1.3B dom , 

 

5.7b OS, 7B WW

 

Keysersoze123

600 Domestic /1.2B OS -C / 700M C - 2.5B WW

Pure spirit

 

low-end:

 

550M DOM

 

$2B OS - China

 

$600M China

 

 

 

$3.15B total, assuming significant drop off from the first after accounting for inflation plus foreign market growth

 

(Nice one Pure Spirit I hope

 

we reach your highend predict or far more fellow Pandorian)

 

Pure Spirits High-end :

 

$1B DOM

 

$3B OS - China

 

$1.1B China

$5.1B WW total

 

 

Charlie Jatender

China: 700 

Domestic: $500mn (The Lion King level)

 

Overseas: $1100mn (Slightly better than The Lion King in some markets)

 

China: $500mn 

 

Total: $2100mn.



 

Headshot-- 1.3 billion max. It's actually going to do even less than that.

 

500 OS

 

250 DOM

 

400 China 

 

 

 

/\ Bold on this predict😱😂

Raul B. :

 

$550M China

 

$900M OS - CHN

 

 

$2B worldwide

 

Jim Scholar:

 

domestic:

 

2.5b , 10B ww( wow JCS-I want your predict to happen!!)

 

Updated 05/14/2020

 

[IronJimbo]

@Sheldon Cr

 

I'm thinking atleast 5 billies now.

[filmlover]

 

 

[Deuce66]

Jon Landau

 

Our Avatar sets are ready — and we couldn’t be more excited to be headed back to New Zealand next week. Check out the Matador, a high speed forward command vessel (bottom) and the Picador jetboat (top) — can’t wait to share more.

 

[Ithil]

There's a mandatory quarantine in NZ for people entering the country so they're gonna be sitting around for a while first.

[excel1]

Delay this and make way for THE BATMAN at XMAS

[Elessar]

10 minutes ago, excel1 said:

Delay this and make way for THE BATMAN at XMAS

No.

[aabattery]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/417403/avatar-producer-jon-landau-on-his-return-to-new-zealand

Quote

Landau spoke to RNZ about his plans for filming:

 

On returning to New Zealand:

"We feel very comfortable because of the actions of your government and also the responsibility the people took to really curb the virus there. So we feel we're coming back to the safest place in the world possible thanks to a team of people that we've worked with. We believe we have a very thoughtful, detailed and diligent safety plan that will keep everybody as safe as possible in these unprecedented times."

 

On mandatory quarantine:

"If there's a silver lining to a very, very grey cloud, it's that we live in a day and age where technology allows us to be productive, it allows us to be entertained and it allows us to socialise."

 

Any Avatar secrets?

"The only secret is not so much of a secret, it's the calibre of talent that New Zealand has and the artisans who are bringing the world of Pandora to life at a higher level and higher quality than one could ever imagine. It's one of there reasons that we're so thankful that we started the production there and thankful that we're coming back. We don't need the locations of New Zealand to make our movie. We need the people, the talented crew, craftsmen and technicians who work on the film.

"We're bringing back far fewer people than we had last year when we were filming. We're bringing really those who are essential to our filming needs and we'll be working with the same crew that we had in New Zealand.

"This is the story of the Sully family and what one does to keep their family together. Jake and Neytiri have a family in this movie, they are forced to leave their home, they go out and explore the different regions of Pandora, including spending quite a bit of time on the water, around the water, in the water. I think, why do people turn to entertainment today, more so than ever? I think it's to escape, to escape the world we're in, to escape the other pressures they have in their lives.

"I think with Avatar, we have an opportunity to allow people to escape to an incredible world with incredible characters that they will follow, in much the same way as Peter Jackson was able to do with Lord of the Rings, so that's what we're looking forward to doing."

 

On the benefits of filming in New Zealand:

"One of the great things about the film industry is that our spending is quite diversified. We don't just spend money in one area. We spend money when we cater for 400 people a day - we go to the local market. The stationery supplies that are required on a film had a big impact. So we're not just spending in one area, our sets require lumber, all of those things.

"So the economics of any film coming into a community are quite strong in that the dollar spent circulates in that community because of the diversity of spending for quite some time."

 

Will other producers want to come back?

"I think we're not the only ones and I don't necessarily think it will be limited to our business. I think your country has become a leader in how to deal with something like this and I think films will want to come, we feel a responsibility coming back in being one of the first movies - we're certainly not the only movie coming back - but we feel a responsibility to really illustrate how you can do it the right way and we're thankful to be given the opportunity."

 

[Deuce66]

10 hours ago, aabattery said:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/417403/avatar-producer-jon-landau-on-his-return-to-new-zealand

 

Any Avatar secrets?

"This is the story of the Sully family and what one does to keep their family together. Jake and Neytiri have a family in this movie, they are forced to leave their home, they go out and explore the different regions of Pandora, including spending quite a bit of time on the water, around the water, in the water. I think, why do people turn to entertainment today, more so than ever? I think it's to escape, to escape the world we're in, to escape the other pressures they have in their lives.

"I think with Avatar, we have an opportunity to allow people to escape to an incredible world with incredible characters that they will follow, in much the same way as Peter Jackson was able to do with Lord of the Rings, so that's what we're looking forward to doing."

 

They are forced to leave their home? humans/other Navi tribes/dissent from within their own clan? 

[cdsacken]

On 5/10/2020 at 8:26 PM, SpiderByte said:

So if this virus is in fact long term, and may last for years like some have been predicting...

That might be a big factor in this not beating the first one

 

(though personally I've thought that'd be the case for a long time, barring some new technological innovation like glasses free 3D)

Glasses free and it would/could do like 4 billion. Alas not a chance. Technology is a decade away from cinema.