Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[Sheldon Cr]

On 3/23/2020 at 12:15 PM, Valonqar said:

What will be released first: New Mutants, Chaos Walking or Avatar 2? 

Good question. Don't forget jcs battle angel2. And Giant sci-fis  live die repeat 2 and Sony's mega movie Masters of the universe all on hold. Sheesh! Will they make their 2021-2022 release dates??😰

Edited April 15, 2020 by Sheldon Cr

[Sheldon Cr]

Here are some of the early predicts so far. Everyone please help me update👍

 

Avatar 2 Dec 17th, 2021:

 

Kal...1.12b dom, 3.4b OS

( Really would love Avatar2 to hit 1bil to 1.2 bil or Better from China alone)

 

4.5b WW

 

Ncsoft... 3.7Bww

 

 

Jimbo...1.1B dom , 

 

3.5b OS, 4.6B WW

 

Keysersoze123

600 Domestic /1.2B OS -C / 700M C - 2.5B WW

Pure spirit

 

low-end:

 

550M DOM

 

$2B OS - China

 

$600M China

 

 

 

$3.15B total, assuming significant drop off from the first after accounting for inflation plus foreign market growth

 

(Nice one Pure Spirit I hope

 

we reach your highend predict or far more fellow Pandorian)

 

Pure Spirits High-end :

 

$1B DOM

 

$3B OS - China

 

$1.1B China

 

$5.1B total

 

Charlie Jatender

 

Dom: 475+ (45mn admits against 75mn of Avatar 1 but due to lower 3D contribution ATP just 10% higher than normal as compared to 33% in 2009)

 

Overseas: 1200 (same reason in Europe as in Dom but Asia will rise)

 

China: 700 

 



 

WW: 2375

 

Headshot-- 1.3 billion max. It's actually going to do even less than that.

 

500 OS

 

250 DOM

 

400 China 

 

 

 

Bold on this predict😱😂

 

 

 

Raul B. :

 

$550M China

 

$900M OS - CHN

 

 

$2B worldwide

 

 

Jim Scholar:

domestic:

2.5b , 10b ww( wow JCS-I want your predict to happen!!)

 

Updated 04/14/2020

11:20pm.

 

Post your predicts everyone's.

Edited April 15, 2020 by Sheldon Cr

[marveldcfox]

Pretty sure, Avatar will be delayed until Summer / December 2022. Most likely December 22 as this needs those sweet Christmas legs.

[Sheldon Cr]

16 hours ago, marveldcfox said:

Pretty sure, Avatar will be delayed until Summer / December 2022. Most likely December 22 as this needs those sweet Christmas legs.

Yep he likes his big epics released for winter runs around the same dates. Still 2021 could still happen.

[IronJimbo]

@Sheldon Cr

 

Hmm with the current state of cinema/econmy it's really hard to say my new $$$ predicts

 

What I will say is atleast triple the number of tickets Endgame sold overseas and >1.5x more than Endgame domestic.

Probably looking at $7b or so

[Valonqar]

Avatar sequels will never come out. Avatar sequels will be next New Mutans. 

[Deuce66]

This is interesting, looks like Sigourney is back as Grace, she's dressed exactly the same way as the first movie. 

 

 

 

 

[Macleod]

53 minutes ago, Deuce66 said:

This is interesting, looks like Sigourney is back as Grace, she's dressed exactly the same way as the first movie. 

 

 

 

 

Flashback?

[Deuce66]

10 minutes ago, Macleod said:

Flashback?

 

It must be, I can't think of any other possible scenario. They moved away from that site and at the end of the movie Quaritch pretty much destroys that habitat during the finale. 

 

[IronJimbo]

1 hour ago, Macleod said:

Flashback?

100% a flashback

 

Eywa and reliving memories gonna be a big thing

[The Panda]

On 4/16/2020 at 11:29 AM, Valonqar said:

Avatar sequels will never come out. Avatar sequels will be next New Mutans. 

What do you mean the Next New Mutants?  Avatar 2 was still in development when New Mutants was even announced and it still might end up being seen two years before we see Avatar 2.

[charlie Jatinder]

On 4/16/2020 at 3:29 PM, IronJimbo said:

What I will say is atleast triple the number of tickets Endgame sold overseas and >1.5x more than Endgame domestic.

So about 4x tickets of Avatar Overseas & 1.7x Avatar domestic. 

[charlie Jatinder]

On 4/15/2020 at 9:04 AM, Sheldon Cr said:

Charlie Jatinder

 

Dom: 475+ (45mn admits against 75mn of Avatar 1 but due to lower 3D contribution ATP just 10% higher than normal as compared to 33% in 2009)

 

Overseas: 1200 (same reason in Europe as in Dom but Asia will rise)

 

China: 700 

Gonna change some

 

Domestic: $500mn (The Lion King level)

Overseas: $1100mn (Slightly better than The Lion King in some markets)

China: $500mn 

 

Total: $2100mn.

Edited May 2, 2020 by charlie Jatinder

[IronJimbo]

3 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Gonna change some

 

Domestic: $500mn (The Lion King level)

Overseas: $1100mn (Slightly better than The Lion King in some markets)

China: $500mn 

 

Total: $2100mn.

Goes to show really that purple badge just means you crunch numbers, nothing to do with ability

[IronJimbo]

we off the lot yet or what

[charlie Jatinder]

So I did the "Adjustment to ER" and "Admission Count" last year. As per ER adjustment, Avatar Gross was $2,355mn (84% of Endgame) last year while Admission Count was 285mn (74% of Endgame).

 

There was doubt among people that ER adjustment is faulty as there's inflation in countries' with ER depletion and I myself had an issue with Admission count that Eastern countries has low ATP and West has higher, which will be giving a true picture in sense of which film was watched more but not in term of money as 20mn admissions in India today are worth $60mn but same will be $250mn in Germany. To overcome that, I am doing Inflation and ER adjustment both. How?

 

Well, I will be taking the footfalls of the film in a country, and take Endgame's ATP to give adjusted Gross at time of Endgame release. e.g. India, Avatar grossed $27.5mn here in 2010 with admissions around 9mn. Adjusted for ER that gross was $18mn last year.

 

In the new measure, taking Endgame ATP i.e. $2.9, the gross in 2019's inflation and ER will be $26.1mn.

 

Similarily for France, Avatar actual gross $176mn with 14.78mn admissions. ER adjusted Gross will be $149mn while at Endgame's ATP i.e. $8.92 with Avatar's admissions, we have $132mn.

 

Using this approach, the Gross of Avatar adjusted for today's ATP is $2,423mn in 2019 i.e. 87% of Avengers: Endgame.

 

This is the best approach there is. It account for inflation and Exchange Rate both. So in conclusion.

 

Avatar is 74% of Avengers: Endgame in Admissions

Avatar is 84% of Avengers: Endgame in Adjustment to Exchange Rates

Avatar is 86% of Avengers: Endgame in Inflation and ER adjustment.

[Deuce66]

From Jon Landau - Facebook

 

A couple of behind the scenes stills of Jim giving the actors direction before they dive underwater to capture performances for a scene from the Avatar sequels. What is the white stuff on the water surface? They are small white balls that are needed to prevent the lights from above contaminating the performance capture system below… while still allowing anyone below to surface safely through them should the need arise.

 

 

[Eric Atreides]

 

[TerwillikerInst]

On 5/6/2020 at 9:34 AM, Deuce66 said:

From Jon Landau - Facebook

 

A couple of behind the scenes stills of Jim giving the actors direction before they dive underwater to capture performances for a scene from the Avatar sequels. What is the white stuff on the water surface? They are small white balls that are needed to prevent the lights from above contaminating the performance capture system below… while still allowing anyone below to surface safely through them should the need arise.

 

 

gotta respect ol' Jimbo's commitment to making actors do miserable and uncomfortable underwater scenes

Edited May 8, 2020 by TerwillikerInst

[Deuce66]

19 hours ago, Eric Atreides said:

 

 

Unless New Zealand lifts their travel restrictions and the mandatory 14 day quarantine, the US crew that needs to go over will be staying put for a while longer.