James Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 wow, you are just clueless There is nothing like the MCU in history. Generic? Lol. This year's 2 movies were CATWS and GOTG. The very definition of generic. Not. You do realise you talk about 4 movie series that formed this Avengers franchise against the enormous cultural event that HP was and at how the books are selling still is (and for the record, I like SH movies in general liked CA2 this year). Don't even bring in quality because that leads to a total opinion value bust. And yeah, generic: TA is a fad that at some point, when people get tired of 10 SH movies / a year will go away; I'll give you the fact that TA was the first franchise to reunite more SH in one movie - the reason for it's success; ut if you ask someone, of any age, what he/she knows better (Avengers or HP) he/she will answer the second. Especially the older generations. You don't seem to grasp what an impact these books/movies had (you should read Baumer's thread about it for an idea). But I'll leave you to your fanboyism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 There's going to be a point where people just don't want any more reboots. Is a 3rd Spider-man series going to be a hit? What about X-men 12, or the 3rd reboot of fantastic 4. After 3 avengers, 3 Iron Mans, 3, cap, Thors, and so on do people want to see those rebooted 8 years from now? Not to mention with all these DC movies coming out. There comes a point where it just will be over redundant.Two words for you : JAMES BOND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Also, as other members already stated, superhero movies are NOT a genre.Superheroes are just heroes with the super ingredient.There will always be heroes in films, since the dawn of films.Comics have been going on for the last 60 or 70 years and they still exist. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashrendar44 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) You do realise you talk about 4 movie series that formed this Avengers franchise against the enormous cultural event that HP was and at how the books are selling still is (and for the record, I like SH movies in general liked CA2 this year). Don't even bring in quality because that leads to a total opinion value bust. And yeah, generic: TA is a fad that at some point, when people get tired of 10 SH movies / a year will go away; I'll give you the fact that TA was the first franchise to reunite more SH in one movie - the reason for it's success; ut if you ask someone, of any age, what he/she knows better (Avengers or HP) he/she will answer the second. Especially the older generations. You don't seem to grasp what an impact these books/movies had (you should read Baumer's thread about it for an idea). But I'll leave you to your fanboyism. Harry Potter cannot be a dystopic political action romp like CA2. It cannot be a space opera comedy like GOTG. It cannot be a heist movie like Ant-Man. Harry Potter is limited to one genre, fantasy. MCU can be anything it wants thanks for characters that can be flavored through different genres. Generic's definition means that it is defined and confined by one genre. MCU at the core cannot be qualified as "generic" because it spans over different genres whereas HP can be narrowed down to one genre. You can bend that like a criticism as in "those movies are generic imo" because Marvel wants its shared universe to be homogenic (in terms of direction for hence) nevertheless they aren't generic by the strict definition of the term. Edited September 20, 2014 by dashrendar44 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I don't care that Marvel is gonna pass Potter with its 11th or 12th film. Potter had 8 movies that came out between 2001-2011 and did $7.7b worldwide with only the last film being in 3D. MCU will pass Potter by its 11th or 12th film despite all coming out much later than Potter (years of inflation), and 7 of them being in 3D. Potter will remain the most popular. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 You do realise you talk about 4 movie series that formed this Avengers franchise against the enormous cultural event that HP was and at how the books are selling still is (and for the record, I like SH movies in general liked CA2 this year). Don't even bring in quality because that leads to a total opinion value bust. And yeah, generic: TA is a fad that at some point, when people get tired of 10 SH movies / a year will go away; I'll give you the fact that TA was the first franchise to reunite more SH in one movie - the reason for it's success; ut if you ask someone, of any age, what he/she knows better (Avengers or HP) he/she will answer the second. Especially the older generations. You don't seem to grasp what an impact these books/movies had (you should read Baumer's thread about it for an idea). But I'll leave you to your fanboyism. Wow, I don't even know where to begin with all the misstatements and fallacies in this post. So I'll just leave it at this: I don't think you know what the word "generic" means. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Wow, I don't even know where to begin with all the misstatements and fallacies in this post. So I'll just leave it at this: I don't think you know what the word "generic" means. Yeah, I misused the word. Gotta check my english better next time. I can accept that. The idea was that of heartless blockbuster with one-dimensional characters (not all, but most) and a severe lack of depth. And what fallacies? LOL. That HP is and was more influential and culturally important than Avengers ever will? That the quality of the movies and themes approached is superior? That is much more well known by the general population than Avengers is or will be? These are just facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Two words for you : JAMES BOND. Amen futurist. they are sayng disney with the marvel brand used right willbringth company hundreds of billonsw of dollars inrevue . Wow this isthe greatest brand quirmetof alltime. Marrve my help disney to rival apple and msoft one dy. Holy shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Potter will remain the most popular. You do know yur talkng crzy. Dc and marvvel dominate hp in ever way. Hp is simply too young a franchise and many of marvel films dominate hp in film quality well.HP is stillinthe top 5 greatest francisess of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I don't care that Marvel is gonna pass Potter with its 11th or 12th film. Potter had 8 movies that came out between 2001-2011 and did $7.7b worldwide with only the last film being in 3D. MCU will pass Potter by its 11th or 12th film despite all coming out much later than Potter (years of inflation), and 7 of them being in 3D. Potter will remain the most popular. Juggernaut surpasses Harry in 3 movies at the bo.. How incredible is that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmac Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) The number of superhero movies coming out between 2015-2017 is insane but 1) if there is continuing audience demand and 2) quality is high for most of them, then perhaps saturation isn't so bad. When was the last outright superhero movie dud? Green Lantern and TASM 2 come to mind but they did make back their budget. Edited September 20, 2014 by lilmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 You do know yur talkng crzy. Dc and marvvel dominate hp in ever way. Hp is simply too young a franchise and many of marvel films dominate hp in film quality well.HP is stillinthe top 5 greatest francisess of all time. This makes absolutely no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This makes absolutely no sense. It's the grammar/spelling issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rukaio101 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 It's the grammar/spelling issues Honestly, I'd say the content's just as bad, but I digress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Honestly, I'd say the content's just as bad, but I digress. Baby steps. First you get them to post coherently. Edited September 21, 2014 by 4815162342 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Honestly, I'd say the content's just as bad, but I digress. that would be your anime addled mind that is lost and has norespect for logic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This makes absolutely no sense. + I suggest you consult the history books on marvel's impact on over 6 generations across the world. Pls dont make us hp fans look crazy. Marvel could with the mouse's vast infastructure go on to make over 300b and thats just over a 10-15 yr period. Hp and Lotr brands even combined never had this potential. Avengers alone will surpass Hp in 5 films at the bo and the merchandising will dwarf Hp's in 2-yrs!1 Amazing. Took hp francise almost 2 decades to amass a total revenue of 18b. Marvel willl pass that number in 3-4 more years. Popularity you say of HP vs Marvel/Disney? .lo.l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I don't care that Marvel is gonna pass Potter with its 11th or 12th film. Potter had 8 movies that came out between 2001-2011 and did $7.7b worldwide with only the last film being in 3D. MCU will pass Potter by its 11th or 12th film despite all coming out much later than Potter (years of inflation), and 7 of them being in 3D. Potter will remain the most popular. Whats amazing is Avengers , Ironman all will beat Hp. And Marvel is just barely pulling from its 5000 character catalogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 that would be your anime addled mind that is lost and has norespect for logic. I'm always going to use "That would be your anime addled mind that is lost and has norespect for logic." whenever I can now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Whats amazing is Avengers , Ironman all will beat Hp. And Marvel is just barely pulling from its 5000 character catalogue. Not to mention all these characters were exclusively Marvel B-Listers and below who have now been transformed into A-Listers. Edited September 21, 2014 by Spidey Freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
