Fancyarcher Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 1 hour ago, The Futurist said: I kinda don't care if Reynolds is a box office draw or not but damn he is cast in so many movies, it really feels he s being shoved down our throats a little too much by the Powers That Be , it s really specific to him, I don't have such another jarring exemple. Collin Farrell comes to mind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowhite Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 32 minutes ago, Daniel Dylan Davis said: Collin Farrell comes to mind. Farrell in Fantastic Beasts though...I like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 1 minute ago, kowhite said: Farrell in Fantastic Beasts though...I like that. Yeah, oddball casting for sure. I think wizards will cast a spell on him, to prevent the film from flopping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Hollywood has pretty much given up on Colin Farrell as a big movie star at this point after a whole decade of trying and not succeeding (sure, he just had a lead role on True Detective: Season 2 but that was most likely because of bigger names passing on it). He tends to fare best in supporting roles anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 59 minutes ago, Daniel Dylan Davis said: Collin Farrell comes to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 1 minute ago, MrPink said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halba Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 this movie is fucking atrocious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Can we stop pretending Jolie has great directing talent and just hasn't gotten the right material now? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) Edited November 7, 2015 by Jake Gittes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filmovie Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 32 minutes ago, tribefan695 said: Can we stop pretending Jolie has great directing talent and just hasn't gotten the right material now? Moreover a director with talent knows what material is worth-directing and what is not. Also a director with talent can misfire: not 3 times in a row. She didn't made Unbroken and By The Sea because she needed money but only because she thought they were "good" projects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) 8 hours ago, tribefan695 said: Can we stop pretending Jolie has great directing talent and just hasn't gotten the right material now? She has tried directing a commercial movie aimed at a mass audience with "Unbroken" has tried a niche art house film with "By The Sea "and has come up dry both times with both critics and audiences. I don't blame Jolie for trying, but (to quote Dirty Harry) You got to know your limitations, and she should stick to acting, which she is pretty good at. Time for you and Brad to do Mr and Mrs. Smith 2, Angelina. Edited November 7, 2015 by dudalb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 17 hours ago, filmlover said: Hollywood has pretty much given up on Colin Farrell as a big movie star at this point after a whole decade of trying and not succeeding (sure, he just had a lead role on True Detective: Season 2 but that was most likely because of bigger names passing on it). He tends to fare best in supporting roles anyway. Farell is getting work in supporting roles because he is a pretty good actor,and audeinces seem to be accepting him when he is not the lead.. But I think The film industry has pretty much given up on making him a big box office draw. He just never had the kind of charisma you need for that. It was the lack of charisma that made him such a poor choice in "Alexander". Alexander the Great is the ultimate example of the Charismatic leader, and Farell was a total fail in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) 8 hours ago, tribefan695 said: Can we stop pretending Jolie has great directing talent and just hasn't gotten the right material now? Unbroken was GREAT material and she had the highest level cinematographer and screenwriters to work with. It got mediocre reviews but better than this movie and it made a profit for the studio which a lot of great movies by top notch directors don't. What hurt it's perception was I think the bizarre and premature belief it was an Oscar contender a year before it was even released as if she was already an established acclaimed director. There have been good and even great directors who've made mediocre or bad movies, sometimes a few in a row. She has decades ahead of her to hone her craft if this is what she wants to pursue. It can take several films for a director to find their footing, it's that most don't do it in such a strong spotlight with so much studio backing. The big studio backing is what she might have to do without for awhile if she makes another movie like this. Edited November 7, 2015 by TalismanRing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TStechnij Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 8 hours ago, tribefan695 said: Can we stop pretending Jolie has great directing talent and just hasn't gotten the right material now? No one is saying this lol. I think she clearly has talent, she just can't maintain it throughout two hours. She is a mess, but occasionally has a very inspired moment. Here is my review: http://awardswatch.com/reviews/afi-review-angelina-jolie-pitts-by-the-sea-★★/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TStechnij Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) 12 hours ago, Halba said: this movie is fucking atrocious. Your commentary is so useless. We can all go read RottenTomatoes, how about you actually watch a movie? Edited November 8, 2015 by TStechnij 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blur Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Another case of "great trailer, meh movie". I don't know, I think I might like this mess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halba Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 unbroken was actually decent. good cinematography(deakins) and good acting by the lead. but the script and direction not true to the book's ideals. by the sea looks like jolie has hit a new low. hard to see further work from her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawk the Hutt Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Jolie is one of the most connected people in Hollywood. She'll get many more chances to direct. She needs to grow as a director but she certainly has talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJohn Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 2 hours ago, dudalb said: Time for you and Brad to do Mr and Mrs. Smith 2, Angelina. LUL no, sequel and same action flick like the first one would suck for their on-screen reunion. With better or worse results By The Sea is exactly what they should've done, something completly different than Mr. and Mrs. Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/will-by-sea-kill-hollywood-842647 Quote But now the studio stands to lose as much as $40 million on By the Sea, according to two knowledgeable sources who place the film's budget at closer to $25 million than the $10 million Universal insists it cost (and the marketing expense at $15 million). The film grossed $185,000 from 126 theaters in its second week of release and has amassed a paltry domestic haul of $313,000 so far. One source scoffs at the $10 million figure, noting that Jolie Pitt's directorial debut, In the Land of Blood and Honey, a Serbian-language war film with a no-name cast, cost $13 million. Quote But even if Universal loses tens of millions of dollars on By the Sea, the studio is gambling that by backing Jolie Pitt's artistic whim, she will be amenable to starring in its tentpole Bride of Frankenstein, which is part of the Monster's universe from producers Alex Kurtzman and Chris Morgan, or a long-hoped-for sequel to Wanted. Surprised they're gambling and didn't have a tit for tat deal in place before hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
