SLAM! Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, cannastop said: West Side? West Side Story (2020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) On 9/9/2019 at 5:31 AM, Krissykins said: There’s nothing worse than an Oscar bait film with bad reviews. The films are just lost in a weird limbo. Usually all round failures, critically and commercially. Yeah, every year we have a couple of Award Bait films that turn out to be busted flushes. When a film like the Goldfinch gets panned by the critics, it's over baby. For some films the reviews don't matter, but for a film like "Goldfinch" you get a bad critical reception it's almost certain you flop at the box office also. Edited September 12, 2019 by dudalb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/9/2019 at 7:48 AM, Jake Gittes said: Read the first chapter of the book (three dozen or so pages) online out of curiosity the other day. Liked it ok (though it has a frustrating everything-and-the-kitchen-sink way of trying to immerse you into its world) but I have no idea how you could possibly adapt that into something that's meaningful and satisfying as a chunk of movie. It's got nice cinematic atmosphere but also it's like 80% memory and internal/headspace stuff, hardly translatable visually unless you're doing a miniseries and/or you're prepared to make it totally unconventional and uncommercial. AA Dowd mentioned on Twitter that instead they just use lots of heavy-handed voiceover which is of course the lamest shit. It's almost as if this was designed to be a work of literature and not any other medium. Some novels simply are not good film material because the exact way the story is told is just as important as the story and charecters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 What an epic weekend for this! One for the ages.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-bust-goldfinch-lose-40m-50m-warner-bros-amazon-1239816 Quote 'The Goldfinch' Bomb May Lose Up to $50M for Warner Bros., Amazon Studios Profits from It: Chapter Two — earning nearly $324 million globally in its first 10 days — will no doubt help make up for the $25 million to $30 million that Warners could lose because of The Goldfinch. Amazon Studios will also take a hit after co-financing 40 percent of the adult drama, which cost a net $44 million before marketing. (Warners is on the hook for all marketing and distribution costs, so its losses could ultimately be more.) Amazon ponied up $16 million to $18 million in exchange for exclusive worldwide SVOD rights, which allows it to provide its Prime customers with exclusive content. The company could lose nearly its entire investment, putting Goldfinch's total losses for Warners and Amazon combined in the $40 million-$50 million range, according to several box office analysts consulted by The Hollywood Reporter. Warners and Amazon both declined to comment. Quote Warners knew The Goldfinch, directed by John Crowley, was in trouble at least six months ago and subsequently decided to trim back dramatically on its marketing spend. "This is the kind of story that is probably more appropriate for a series on streaming," says one studio executive. Two other sources say Warners approached Amazon Studios about a taking on a bigger role, but Amazon declined. On the Warners lot, there's divided opinion as to whether it was the right decision for the marketing and publicity team to premiere the pic at the recent Toronto International Film Festival, where critics gather each year in search of fall awards contenders. The film's Rotten Tomatoes score quickly plummeted to 24 percent. While the movie would have still been reviewed no matter where it premiered, a fall film festival can result in heightened expectations. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 20 hours ago, TalismanRing said: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-bust-goldfinch-lose-40m-50m-warner-bros-amazon-1239816 Yikes. Speaking of which, The Goldfinch opened to about $2.68M, barely above a $1,000 PTA ($1,054). The drop and PTA next weekend should be legendary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Is this movie like The Book of Henry or Life Itself, i.e. emotionally manipulative melodrama? When I saw the trailer for this, it gave me those vibes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Jay Beezy said: Is this movie like The Book of Henry or Life Itself, i.e. emotionally manipulative melodrama? When I saw the trailer for this, it gave me those vibes. I haven't seen the film myself but it definitely seems that way. From what I've heard the book isn't the best type to adapt for the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 4:15 PM, TalismanRing said: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-bust-goldfinch-lose-40m-50m-warner-bros-amazon-1239816 Can't blame Warners for cutting the marketing budget on this after they saw it was a mess. No reason to throw good money away after bad. Part of being a good businessman is realizing when something is just not going to work, cut you losses, and don't spend good money to try to save something that is beyond saving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, dudalb said: Can't blame Warners for cutting the marketing budget on this after they saw it was a mess. No reason to throw good money away after bad. Part of being a good businessman is realizing when something is just not going to work, cut you losses, and don't spend good money to try to save something that is beyond saving. Yep. It really is okay to just wash your hands of something and be done with it. It reminds me of some people I know who drive well out of their way to save a few cents on gas. They end up missing the forest for the trees and putting out more money! Sometimes you just bite the bullet and you actually come out better than you would from the alternative. Just forget about this one and move on, WB. You've got a terrific Fall ahead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, JB33 said: Yep. It really is okay to just wash your hands of something and be done with it. It reminds me of some people I know who drive well out of their way to save a few cents on gas. They end up missing the forest for the trees and putting out more money! Sometimes you just bite the bullet and you actually come out better than you would from the alternative. Just forget about this one and move on, WB. You've got a terrific Fall ahead! Which is what a lot of people here don't get; at times the smartest thing a studio can do is just admit they have a turkey that no one will want to see;that no amount of marketing will save it; so just cut your lossed and don't add to the red ink. You have to wonder if Disney has not already made this choice with New Mutants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 What happened with "The Goldfinch" makes me a bit less anxious for someone to film "The Light We Cannot See" IMHO the best novel I have read for the past decade, but one that would take everybody bringing their "A" game to pull off on the screen. I think it can be done...it's a more filmable novel then "The Goldfinch" but it would take a lot of care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, dudalb said: What happened with "The Goldfinch" makes me a bit less anxious for someone to film "The Light We Cannot See" IMHO the best novel I have read for the past decade, but one that would take everybody bringing their "A" game to pull off on the screen. I think it can be done...it's a more filmable novel then "The Goldfinch" but it would take a lot of care. Oh right another Pultizer Winner. All the Light We Cannot See. I don't know if that would be a good movie. Have to read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 hours ago, dudalb said: What happened with "The Goldfinch" makes me a bit less anxious for someone to film "The Light We Cannot See" IMHO the best novel I have read for the past decade, but one that would take everybody bringing their "A" game to pull off on the screen. I think it can be done...it's a more filmable novel then "The Goldfinch" but it would take a lot of care. I confess I haven't heard of that book. I'll check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Wild Eric Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 LMFAO at Ansel saying "my mom liked it" It's not as embarrasing as H*rvey W*nstein saying Alicia Vikander's mom's friend liked Tulip Fever, but it's pretty close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealLyre Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 can't say crying on insta about critics not liking your movie is a bad strategy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedast Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I want to say he's handling it well but that's two posts about it so idk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 19 hours ago, RealLyre said: This is almost as good as whenever Zac Efron posted pictures of his family going to see that DJ movie he was in while it was posting one of the worst openings for a wide release ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 19 hours ago, RealLyre said: can't say crying on insta about critics not liking your movie is a bad strategy @Alli stop making Letterboxd accounts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...