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32 minutes ago, aladdino said:

movie will be dead after xmas, no iconic song = worse legs

There are a couple of possibilities between "dead after xmas" and adding another 200M DOM a la Frozen. You shouldn't be disappointed if it stops at the 450-500 range.

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23 hours ago, edroger3 said:

Billboard Top 200 Album

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It's gonna rise to #1 this week. Or at least #2. Christmas will be good for Frozen 2's album sales.

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13 minutes ago, misafeco said:

There are a couple of possibilities between "dead after xmas" and adding another 200M DOM a la Frozen. You shouldn't be disappointed if it stops at the 450-500 range.

no, the movie has obviously been VERY succesful I just wish it had better music, i see it ending at 440m

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14 minutes ago, aladdino said:

no, the movie has obviously been VERY succesful I just wish it had better music, i see it ending at 440m

The soundtrack is great. Anyone who expected another Let It Go were setting themselves up for a disappointment though.

 

You want to bet on your prediction? I say there is zero chance it misses 450 DOM. 1 month of gold account, Box Office Casino points or just the glory of winning - you can choose either one.

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1 hour ago, misafeco said:

The soundtrack is great. Anyone who expected another Let It Go were setting themselves up for a disappointment though.

 

You want to bet on your prediction? I say there is zero chance it misses 450 DOM. 1 month of gold account, Box Office Casino points or just the glory of winning - you can choose either one.

 

I don't think people were necessarily setting themselves up for another Let It Go, because let's face it, only songs like "Reflection" (and potentially I'll Make a Man Out of You"), "Circle of Life" or "Beauty and the Beast" can be said to have a breakout value comparable to Let It Go (for their pre-Internet time period). Not that all the other songs in Disney's library aren't great, just that there are those select stand-outs.

 

What I think people were expecting though—myself among them—was for the songs to be catchy. The kind of song that you're gleefully humming out of the theater because it gets so stuck in your head. Frozen 1 had a ton like that. Let It Go, Love is an Open Door, For the First Time in Forever, In Summer, Do You Wanna Build a Snowman... all of them have such a Broadway bounciness and/or energy that it's hard not to have those songs be ear-worms.

 

Frozen 2... kinda has that in some respects, but not much.

 

All is Found - Gorgeous, very much has the feel of something like You'll Be in My Heart. Not catchy but a sweet lullaby.

 

Some Things Never Change - This one has that Disney catchy-ness, and I swear it sounds like something from a parade at Disney World.

 

Into the Unknown - the catchy stand-out yeah, but this song? It's hard to sing! Let It Go had some tough high notes at the end, but that was just at the end. ItU takes that high note at the end of LiG and has it be sung multiple times in the chorus of the song. Let It Go was catchy, ear-wormy, applicable to many, and easily singable. This one is pretty tied to Elsa's powers lyric-wise, and a lot harder to sing if you actually want to hit all the notes properly.

 

When I'm Older - this one has the catchy upbeat tone of In Summer, good song

 

Lost in the Woods - the actual song is pretty nice, but it being like an 80's ballad feels kind of out of place (especially with the accompanying visuals).

 

Show Yourself - now THIS is the kind of "iconic singable Disney song" kind of vibe as the rest of the Disney Renaissance and the Revival have. It's incredible, easily singable, epic, and relatable without being too heavily tied to the specific character experience like Into the Unknown was. Definitely up to the quality I'd expect from the first one.

 

The Next Right Thing - I love this song. I do. But I think this song more than any other is an example of why I don't think Frozen 2 will get a sing-along release. Why? Because it's freaking depressing. The beginning lyrics especially are probably the most depressing lyrics I've ever heard (easily from Disney, possibly ever). It's slow, the beginning sounds borderline suicidal, it's just more like something out of Les Mis rather than Disney. True it gets more hopeful at the end, but considering it's the last song in the film it's a bleak one to end on and sing. This is certainly a Les Mis-vibe song, and Les Mis didn't exactly get a widespread sing-along release (it seems it did get one at some point though, so who knows?)

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2 hours ago, aladdino said:

no, the movie has obviously been VERY succesful I just wish it had better music, i see it ending at 440m

It 300 after 13 days. Kids aren't even out of school yet and jumanji 2 is going to bomb. No chance.

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6 hours ago, FrozenUnicorn said:

 

I don't think people were necessarily setting themselves up for another Let It Go, because let's face it, only songs like "Reflection" (and potentially I'll Make a Man Out of You"), "Circle of Life" or "Beauty and the Beast" can be said to have a breakout value comparable to Let It Go (for their pre-Internet time period). Not that all the other songs in Disney's library aren't great, just that there are those select stand-outs.

 

What I think people were expecting though—myself among them—was for the songs to be catchy. The kind of song that you're gleefully humming out of the theater because it gets so stuck in your head. Frozen 1 had a ton like that. Let It Go, Love is an Open Door, For the First Time in Forever, In Summer, Do You Wanna Build a Snowman... all of them have such a Broadway bounciness and/or energy that it's hard not to have those songs be ear-worms.

 

Frozen 2... kinda has that in some respects, but not much.

 

All is Found - Gorgeous, very much has the feel of something like You'll Be in My Heart. Not catchy but a sweet lullaby.

 

Some Things Never Change - This one has that Disney catchy-ness, and I swear it sounds like something from a parade at Disney World.

 

Into the Unknown - the catchy stand-out yeah, but this song? It's hard to sing! Let It Go had some tough high notes at the end, but that was just at the end. ItU takes that high note at the end of LiG and has it be sung multiple times in the chorus of the song. Let It Go was catchy, ear-wormy, applicable to many, and easily singable. This one is pretty tied to Elsa's powers lyric-wise, and a lot harder to sing if you actually want to hit all the notes properly.

 

When I'm Older - this one has the catchy upbeat tone of In Summer, good song

 

Lost in the Woods - the actual song is pretty nice, but it being like an 80's ballad feels kind of out of place (especially with the accompanying visuals).

 

Show Yourself - now THIS is the kind of "iconic singable Disney song" kind of vibe as the rest of the Disney Renaissance and the Revival have. It's incredible, easily singable, epic, and relatable without being too heavily tied to the specific character experience like Into the Unknown was. Definitely up to the quality I'd expect from the first one.

 

The Next Right Thing - I love this song. I do. But I think this song more than any other is an example of why I don't think Frozen 2 will get a sing-along release. Why? Because it's freaking depressing. The beginning lyrics especially are probably the most depressing lyrics I've ever heard (easily from Disney, possibly ever). It's slow, the beginning sounds borderline suicidal, it's just more like something out of Les Mis rather than Disney. True it gets more hopeful at the end, but considering it's the last song in the film it's a bleak one to end on and sing. This is certainly a Les Mis-vibe song, and Les Mis didn't exactly get a widespread sing-along release (it seems it did get one at some point though, so who knows?)

 yeah, speaking Recreation of past Joy Usually ends in disappointment. Moderating expectations is healthy

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31 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

So you're thinking what 125 Jumanji, 625 TROS?

I roughly had 160+590 in mind when I made the comment. If both really bomb could see 140+500 or something. Not likely, but stranger things have happened just in the past 2 months.

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