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Aquaman to the contrary, if SS wasn't clear enough already, is more proof that the movie in front of you matters most rather than what came before and what comes next. The self-advertising phase of mega spinoff franchises can die off swimmingly. 

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29 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

So now JL gives movies an Avengers like boost despite flopping??? Dear god, the revisionist history surrounding Aquaman is freaking hilarious. 

Yes it is ... THIS is the reality of how most people saw things as early as a few months before release.

 

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Doesn't look like a forecast that was confident in JL giving a huge boost. LOL

 

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12 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

So now JL gives movies an Avengers like boost despite flopping??? Dear god, the revisionist history surrounding Aquaman is freaking hilarious.  

What is hilarious is some people not changing their tired narrative, $1.1B later. Aquaman was supposed to flop because of JL, remember? Had it actually flopped, this theory wouldn't look foolish now. But when an Aquaman movie makes more than one billion, arguing that it was actually "hurt" by anything at all is weird.

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38 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

So now JL gives movies an Avengers like boost despite flopping??? Dear god, the revisionist history surrounding Aquaman is freaking hilarious. 

:lol: 'JL boost' is hilarious indeed. If anything would be much less absurd to claim that without JL, AQM could have done more. Not that I am claiming so but compared to the 'JL boost' theory, the 'JL dent' theory is nearly scientific.

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There were constant comments about how Jason Momoa's Aquaman in JL didn't pop like Wonder Woman in BvS and no he didn't but you would think that the character was horrible and had no good scenes what-so-ever with the way people were talking. 

 

Anyway, to bring it back to Shazam. People constantly criticize WB and yet they have not had one DC film go under the 650mil mark since 2013. Certainly Shazam could easily go under that mark and still be a hit but I'm not doing anymore armchair marketing and release date complaining anymore. I'm letting the chips fall where they may. I'll Monday Morning Quarterback, if something goes wrong but not before. 

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34 minutes ago, a2k said:

'JL boost' is hilarious indeed. If anything would be much less absurd to claim that without JL, AQM could have done more. Not that I am claiming so but compared to the 'JL boost' theory, the 'JL dent' theory is nearly scientific.

An Aquaman movie could/should have done more than $1.1B? This is the 'JL dent' theory: absurd. It takes a weird hypothetical as fact. Evidence overwhelmingly contradicts its main prediction. $1.1B later, it is more rational to look for multiple reasons to explain the success of Aquaman instead of arguing that it should have made even more.

 

In any case, Shazam will be an example of a DC superhero who didn't get any marketing or appearance before his own movie. If the 'JL dent' exists, would you bet that it will make more than Aquaman?

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I think WB has done great with pretty much all their marketing lately.

 

I mean CM is coming out before this so you don’t want to get lost in the shuffle of that. I figure once we pass the SB tonight cause marvel usually has spots here while WB doesn’t, we should see more for Shazam in the next few weeks. 

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5 hours ago, MrGlass2 said:

That is because some people just assumed Aquaman would be hurt by JL. The $1.1B evidence points to the exact opposite happening. Aquaman was obviously helped by the marketing for JL selling the character one year in advance, and also by some people liking JL or least Momoa.

Because Shazam didn't appear in JL.:Gaga:

 

Trust me.Aquaman nearly did 300M in China.Most people didn't see JL before.They even didn't mention JL in poster or campaign.Aquaman is more like a underwater adventure.JL did Very little in Aquaman campaign.if Aquaman comes right after wonder woman,without JL flop,It may do better.

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Big budget DC movies DOM all-time, adjusted for inflation, excluding Batman and Superman movies:

 

5     Wonder Woman     WB     $416,423,200     $412,563,408     6/2/17
10     Suicide Squad     WB     $344,757,000     $325,100,054     8/5/16
11     Aquaman     WB     $323,572,200     $323,572,240     12/21/18

19     Green Lantern     WB     $130,987,900     $116,601,172     6/17/11
20     Watchmen     WB     $130,135,900     $107,509,799     3/6/09
21     Constantine     WB     $107,030,400     $75,976,178     2/18/05
25     Catwoman     WB     $58,458,500     $40,202,379     7/23/04
26     Supergirl     TriS     $38,263,000     $14,296,438     11/21/84

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23 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

Big budget DC movies DOM all-time, adjusted for inflation, excluding Batman and Superman movies:

 

5     Wonder Woman     WB     $416,423,200     $412,563,408     6/2/17
10     Suicide Squad     WB     $344,757,000     $325,100,054     8/5/16
11     Aquaman     WB     $323,572,200     $323,572,240     12/21/18

19     Green Lantern     WB     $130,987,900     $116,601,172     6/17/11
20     Watchmen     WB     $130,135,900     $107,509,799     3/6/09
21     Constantine     WB     $107,030,400     $75,976,178     2/18/05
25     Catwoman     WB     $58,458,500     $40,202,379     7/23/04
26     Supergirl     TriS     $38,263,000     $14,296,438     11/21/84

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On 2/4/2019 at 1:42 AM, MrGlass2 said:

An Aquaman movie could/should have done more than $1.1B? This is the 'JL dent' theory: absurd. It takes a weird hypothetical as fact. Evidence overwhelmingly contradicts its main prediction. $1.1B later, it is more rational to look for multiple reasons to explain the success of Aquaman instead of arguing that it should have made even more.

 

In any case, Shazam will be an example of a DC superhero who didn't get any marketing or appearance before his own movie. If the 'JL dent' exists, would you bet that it will make more than Aquaman?

re-read my post, am not claiming such a thing happened. just that to claim so makes more sense than the opposite 'bump' theory. the part about it being scientific was facetious.

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