kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I answered that question in my Edit 2.How about judging the movies they have done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) According to RT, that is true for Shark Tale but not so much for all the others you mention.Well, critics were harsh to CARS ll. Very harsh. I don't know, even with MADAGASCAR: ESCAPE TO AFRICA, which is considered the best among the franchise, I fell asleep. Was just boring. Edited September 16, 2012 by kayumanggi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) How about judging the movies they have done?I think Pixar wins clearly until 2009/2010 but after that its all up in the air. Edited September 16, 2012 by iEye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Well, critics were harsh to CARS ll. Very harsh. I don't know, even with MADAGASCAR: ESCAPE TO AFRICA, which is considered the best among the franchise, I fell asleep. Was just boring.I know its hard but lets please try and act a little grown up with the sleeping comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 $700M (Mad3) > $500M (Brave)Nuff said Sequel against an original?Let's try this.731.3 M UP | 381.5 M MONSTERS VS ALIENS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I know its hard but lets please try and act a little grown up with the sleeping comments.Oh please. I really fell asleep. I fell asleep too when I watched SWATH. That's my barometer if the movie is boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Oh please. I really fell asleep. I fell asleep too when I watched SWATH. That's my barometer if the movie is boring.Fine you fell asleep but the critics didn't and they are what matter in the RT rating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Fine you fell asleep but the critics didn't and they are what matter in the RT rating.Yes, critics matter if we want them to matter. CARS ll won 2011 domestically. BRAVE is the biggest animated release for this year so far.However, I have the feeling ROTG would top it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I will not repeat myself, please go and read what I told Tribe. It's not that far back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) All right, let's settle this once and for all Worldwide box office DreamWorks (Independent CGI) Shrek 2 - 920m Shrek the Third - 799m Shrek Forever After - 753m Kung Fu Panda 2 - 666m Kung Fu Panda - 632m Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted - 612m Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa - 604m Puss in Boots - 555m Madagascar - 533m How to Train Your Dragon - 495m Shrek - 484m Monsters vs. Aliens - 382m Shark Tale - 367m Over the Hedge - 336m Megamind - 322m Bee Movie - 288m Antz - 172m Mean: 525m Median: 533m Excl. sequels/spinoffs Mean: 401m Median: 375m Pixar Toy Story 3 - 1063m Finding Nemo - 868m Up - 731m The Incredibles - 631m Ratatouille - 624m Cars 2 - 560m Monsters, Inc. - 525m WALL-E - 521m Brave - 489m Toy Story 2 - 485m Cars - 462m A Bug's Life - 363m Toy Story - 362m Mean: 591m Median: 525m Excl. sequels/spinoffs Mean: 558m Median: 523m RT average rating Dreamworks (Independent CGI) How to Train Your Dragon - 7.9 Antz - 7.7 Shrek - 7.7 Shrek 2 - 7.6 Kung Fu Panda - 7.2 Kung Fu Panda 2 - 6.9 Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted - 6.8 Over the Hedge - 6.8 Puss in Boots - 6.8 Megamind - 6.7 Monsters vs. Aliens - 6.4 Madagascar - 6.1 Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa - 5.9 Shrek Forever After - 5.9 Bee Movie - 5.7 Shrek the Third - 5.4 Shark Tale - 5.2 Mean: 6.6 Median: 6.8 Incl. 2D + Aardman collabs Mean: 6.7 Median: 6.8 Pixar Toy Story - 9.0 Toy Story 3 - 8.8 Finding Nemo - 8.6 Toy Story 2 - 8.6 Up - 8.6 WALL-E - 8.5 Ratatouille - 8.4 The Incredibles - 8.3 A Bug's Life - 7.9 Monsters, Inc. - 7.9 Brave - 6.9 Cars - 6.9 Cars 2 - 5.5 Mean: 8.0 Median: 8.4 The one place you might say that Dreamworks has any kind of edge right now is that, on average their individual films gross more worldwide when not including their 2D and Aardman collaborations (which I rather would include since they raise Dreamworks' average critical reception by a bit). However, remove just one of those sequels from the equation and that median drops below Pixar's, which stays almost the same whether you include the sequels or not. I may be a biased, angry, extreme anti-Dreamworksist Pixar loonie, but I'm pretty confident in my belief that the numbers still back me up. It may be worth revisiting this after Rise of the Guardians is released, but I'm not going to base this conclusion on what I think might happen in the future with either Dreamworks or Pixar's films. Edited September 16, 2012 by tribefan695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 That's gonna improve more with MONSTERS UNIVERSITY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 All right, let's settle this once and for all Worldwide box office DreamWorks (Independent CGI) Shrek 2 - 920m Shrek the Third - 799m Shrek Forever After - 753m Kung Fu Panda 2 - 666m Kung Fu Panda - 632m Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted - 612m Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa - 604m Puss in Boots - 555m Madagascar - 533m How to Train Your Dragon - 495m Shrek - 484m Monsters vs. Aliens - 382m Shark Tale - 367m Over the Hedge - 336m Megamind - 322m Bee Movie - 288m Antz - 172m Mean: 525m Median: 533m Excl. sequels/spinoffs Mean: 401m Median: 375m Pixar Toy Story 3 - 1063m Finding Nemo - 868m Up - 731m The Incredibles - 631m Ratatouille - 624m Cars 2 - 560m Monsters, Inc. - 525m WALL-E - 521m Brave - 489m Toy Story 2 - 485m Cars - 462m A Bug's Life - 363m Toy Story - 362m Mean: 591m Median: 525m Excl. sequels/spinoffs Mean: 558m Median: 523m RT average rating Dreamworks (Independent CGI) How to Train Your Dragon - 7.9 Antz - 7.7 Shrek - 7.7 Shrek 2 - 7.6 Kung Fu Panda - 7.2 Kung Fu Panda 2 - 6.9 Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted - 6.8 Over the Hedge - 6.8 Puss in Boots - 6.8 Megamind - 6.7 Monsters vs. Aliens - 6.4 Madagascar - 6.1 Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa - 5.9 Shrek Forever After - 5.9 Bee Movie - 5.7 Shrek the Third - 5.4 Shark Tale - 5.2 Mean: 6.6 Median: 6.8 Incl. 2D + Aardman collabs Mean: 6.7 Median: 6.8 Pixar Toy Story - 9.0 Toy Story 3 - 8.8 Finding Nemo - 8.6 Toy Story 2 - 8.6 Up - 8.6 WALL-E - 8.5 Ratatouille - 8.4 The Incredibles - 8.3 A Bug's Life - 7.9 Monsters, Inc. - 7.9 Brave - 6.9 Cars - 6.9 Cars 2 - 5.5 Mean: 8.0 Median: 8.4 The one place you might say that Dreamworks has any kind of edge right now is that, on average their individual films gross more worldwide when not including their 2D and Aardman collaborations (which I rather would include since they raise Dreamworks' average critical reception by a bit). However, remove just one of those sequels from the equation and that median drops below Pixar's, which stays almost the same whether you include the sequels or not. I may be a biased, angry, extreme anti-Dreamworksist Pixar loonie, but I'm pretty confident in my belief that the numbers still back me up. It may be worth revisiting this after Rise of the Guardians is released, but I'm not going to base this conclusion on what I think might happen in the future with either Dreamworks or Pixar's films. I've said all that I'm going to say on the matter. If you choose not to listen, you can do so but I will not be repeating myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 It really is very sad that we've spent all this time arguing and speaking over each other that we've stopped listening to each other. I ask you to please go back and objectively read what I've been saying. And, fyi, it isn't what Whoot thinks at all.BTW, I never claimed you were anything like what you described. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Pixar was superior in the past, is in the present and probably will be in the future (mind movie+dinossaur movie against a bunch of sequels). Dreamworks is good in manking easy movies, but Pixar is exellent in making daring ones.I can‘t undestand how ONE simply movie can destroy a legacy of 12 movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 It really is very sad that we've spent all this time arguing and speaking over each other that we've stopped listening to each other. I ask you to please go back and objectively read what I've been saying. And, fyi, it isn't what Whoot thinks at all.BTW, I never claimed you were anything like what you described.He posted facts. Something we should acknowledge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I think Pixar wins clearly until 2009/2010 but after that its all up in the air.What did I say here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 What he posted is different from what you want to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) What he posted is different from what you want to say.Please enlighten because I'm dying to know what I want to say... Edited September 16, 2012 by iEye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 No, you enlighten yourself please. I'm tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iEye Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 (edited) No, you enlighten yourself please. I'm tired.Please go away. You're out of your element. Edited September 16, 2012 by iEye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
