How HV sales used to turn big box office hits into massive box office GIANTS

[robertman2]

1 minute ago, Napoleon said:

And Ghostbusters sold 39% more units than Tarzan despite grossing only 1% more at the box office. GB is beloved by audiences and will make a lot of money for Sony on home video, it will end up being a very profitable movie for Sony as I've been predicting for months.

We already know its a disaster. Stop trying to convince people it wasn't. DVD sales won't help the moviw

[langer]

Looks like BvS is running about 10-15% below Deadpool and should end up at around 85M-90M$ combined once its first year is complete, which is about what IM3 made so far (83M$), higher than Age Of Ultron (77M$)  but below MoS (110M$). 

 

Zootopia is still running about 10% above The Lego Movie, mostly because of stronger DVD sales while it's barely losing on Blu Ray sales.  It should become the first movie released in 2016 to generate 50M$ in both DVD and Blu Ray (only Inside Out managed to do it in 2015 - 53M$ DVD & 56M$ BR).  If Zootopia keeps following Lego's pace, it should pass both Minions (110M$) and IO (109M$) in early 2017 to become the highest seller (animation)  since Frozen (374M$)...unless Finding Dory or Secret Life of Pets outsell it. 

 

SW : TFA has passed TDKR (2012) in combined sales (157M$ vs 152M$) to become the highest seller (non animation) since The Avengers (2012 - 233M$). 

 

For those following the "race" to 400M$ combined between Avatar and Frozen, here's the current status:

- Avatar - 394M$ - 3M$ in the last 11 months

- Frozen - 374M$ - 16M$ in the last 11 months

 

The 4 biggest movies of the year so far have yet to appear on The Numbers' chart. 

[cannastop]

@langer

 

Quite the accomplishment for Zootopia, considering that it's on Netflix. I wonder that the impact of that will be.

[langer]

5 minutes ago, cannastop said:

@langer

 

Quite the accomplishment for Zootopia, considering that it's on Netflix. I wonder that the impact of that will be.

 

Definitely a major achievement, at a time when HV sales are decreasing, it will manage to outsell two movies that made about the same BO DOM. 

It should become the 26th movie to achieve 50M$ in both DVD and BR. 

It could even become the 9th movie to do 75M$ in both. 

There are only 4 movies that managed 100M$ in both and it doesn't look like any other movie will reach this anytime soon...

 

When did it premiere on Netflix? 

[cannastop]

5 minutes ago, langer said:

 

Definitely a major achievement, at a time when HV sales are decreasing, it will manage to outsell two movies that made about the same BO DOM. 

It should become the 26th movie to achieve 50M$ in both DVD and BR. 

It could even become the 9th movie to do 75M$ in both. 

There are only 4 movies that managed 100M$ in both and it doesn't look like any other movie will reach this anytime soon...

 

When did it premiere on Netflix? 

It's been on Netflix for a month.

[langer]

1 minute ago, cannastop said:

It's been on Netflix for a month.

 

All right,  let's keep an eye on the chart when we get mid September to see if there's a dip and how it compares to Lego Movie. 

[Napoleon]

It's a shame we don't have digital sales numbers, WB really pushed that version for BVS fans.

[MinaTakla]

In 10 weeks:

Zootopia - 4.1m copies (Bluray and DVDs)

Minions - 5.6m copies

Inside Out - 4.5m copies

 

It looks like Zootopia's unit prices are a bit higher than Minions/IO?

Edited October 25, 2016 by MinaTakla

[Lordmandeep]

The only movies I have on Blueray are

 

TDK

Avatar

TA

SW7

 

 

[TalismanRing]

15 hours ago, langer said:

Looks like BvS is running about 10-15% below Deadpool and should end up at around 85M-90M$ combined once its first year is complete, which is about what IM3 made so far (83M$), higher than Age Of Ultron (77M$)  but below MoS (110M$).

 

BVS's prices were slashed in it's 4th week the Blu Ray Ultimate Combo packs were slashed to $15 at many of the major online retailers with the DVD at $9.99 (but listed at $17-18 by The Numbers) - hence the 18% drop. (Amazon had it at that price even a week later)   But that price drop isn't reflected in the $ totals (similar to how MOS early and frequent BR drops to under $10 weren't accounted for) where they still avg the BR at $25.  Even if the first week that avg was too high with around 25-30% units being sold around the avg of $19.99. 

 

Conversely their BR avg for AOU and Deadpool  always avg around $20 by Numbers even though their combo BR packs also avg around $25 

 

After 4 weeks The Numbers has BvS's total units sold is at 2.644m vs Deadpool's  3.581m & AOUs 2.896 units (3 1/2 weeks because of the odd release date)

 

Numbers also had SW7 at an avg BR price of $25 even though it was priced the same way AOU was.   JW for some reason was listed with an avg BR price of $27.56 for the first week then around $20 after.  

 

It's very odd

 

 

 

 

 

[narniadis]

2 hours ago, MinaTakla said:

In 10 weeks:

Zootopia - 4.1m copies (Bluray and DVDs)

Minions - 5.6m copies

Inside Out - 4.5m copies

 

It looks like Zootopia's unit prices are a bit higher than Minions/IO?

 

Heavy Christmas discounting will do that 

[seduh]

¡Congrats to Frozen! It has became the last movie to surprass the 20 million mark (DVD + Blu Ray)

DVD (as of 14/8): 12,633,416

Blu Ray: 7,432,515

TOTAL: 20,065,931

Just WOW

 

 

 

[kowhite]

1 minute ago, seduh said:

¡Congrats to Frozen! It has became the last movie to surprass the 20 million mark (DVD + Blu Ray)

DVD (as of 14/8): 12,633,416

Blu Ray: 7,432,515

TOTAL: 20,065,931

Just WOW

 

 

 

 

Just...don't bump that fucking Frozen thread.  Please.

[CoolK]

FD could be huge on home video

[TalismanRing]

Number for CA: Civil War finally  (and once again the odd calculation of $ where Home Media Mag reported 30% of the BR sales were BR/Digital/3D sales at $25+ a unit and yet the avg for is ... $19.95 - less than the 19.99 of the solo BR... ). 

 

Anyway - a big number of BR units. For comparison of first weeks - Deadpool did 1.718m and BvS 1.166m

 

 

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Captain-America-Civil-War#tab=video-sales

 

9/18/2016    1   2,010,194    2,010,194     $40,123,472      $40,123,472

 

http://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart

 

United States Blu-ray Sales Chart for Week Ending September 18, 2016

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Chart Index

 

		Title	Units this Week	% Change	Total Units	Spending this Week	Total Spending	Weeks
1	new	Captain America: Civil War	2,010,194		2,010,194	$40,123,472	$40,123,472	1	Buy
2	(-)	The Conjuring 2: The Enfield Poltergeist	82,820		82,820	$1,904,032	$1,904,032	3	Buy
3	(-)	Now You See Me 2	67,764	-69%	287,900	$1,352,562	$5,746,477	4	Buy
4	(-)	The Jungle Book	67,000	-68%	931,502	$1,535,635	$21,384,601	4	Buy
5	new	The Big Bang Theory: The Complete Ninth Season	32,585		32,585	$985,052	$985,052	1	Buy
6	(-)	The Angry Birds Movie	21,770	-25%	458,549	$402,752	$9,103,798	8	Buy
7	(-)	The Huntsman: Winter’s War	20,182	-38%	313,121	$604,663	$9,020,611	7	Buy
8	(-)	The Transformers: The Movie	18,514		0	$484,879	$0	515	Buy
9	(-)	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	16,986	-56%	2,047,408	$374,714	$48,526,616	12	Buy
10	(-)	Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping	15,941		15,941	$318,657	$318,657	5	Buy
11	new	Frankenstein: Complete Legacy Collection	14,051		14,051	$429,266	$429,266	1	Buy
12	(-)	Me Before You	13,971	-39%	88,940	$225,909	$1,722,454	5	Buy
13	new	Hammer Horror: Eight Film Collection	12,383		12,383	$669,042	$669,042	1	Buy
14	(-)	Aladdin	11,358	+176%	0	$220,451	$0	624	Buy
15	(-)	Money Monster	10,895	-70%	47,755	$217,469	$953,186	5	Buy
16	(-)	The Little Mermaid	10,574	+248%	0	$211,155	$0	876	Buy
17	(-)	Deadpool	9,006	-17%	2,944,193	$178,582	$57,464,399	21	Buy
18	new	Aliens	8,523	+1,777%	0	$108,842	$0	1,213	Buy
19	new	Marauders	8,041		8,041	$139,990	$139,990	1	Buy
20	(-)	Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens	7,940	-31%	5,210,533	$186,517	$130,996,253	25	Buy

Edited November 24, 2016 by TalismanRing

[terrestrial]

19 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Number for CA: Civil War finally  (and once again the odd calculation of $ where Home Media Mag reported 30% of the BR sales were BR/Digital/3D sales at $25+ a unit and yet the avg for is ... $19.95 - less than the 19.99 of the solo BR... ). 

Maybe some people are like me, usually buying the cheaper Blu-Rays, but with e.g. MCU I buy the ones with the most extras = often includes 2D and 3D (I do not need the 3D) + an extra disc = €30+ after a while, at the release those are usually even more expensive.

I think Disney's discs often cost more than other companies discs, at least during the first 3 months or so in release (I mean Star Wars, Marvel, and animated filmss = the most expensive especially as DVD)

Happy Holiday!

[TalismanRing]

38 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

Maybe some people are like me, usually buying the cheaper Blu-Rays, but with e.g. MCU I buy the ones with the most extras = often includes 2D and 3D (I do not need the 3D) + an extra disc = €30+ after a while, at the release those are usually even more expensive.

I think Disney's discs often cost more than other companies discs, at least during the first 3 months or so in release (I mean Star Wars, Marvel, and animated filmss = the most expensive especially as DVD)

Happy Holiday!

 

Thank you. I'm escaping from the kitchen to post here. 

 

Most did buy the simple BR for $19.99 but Home Media Mag had it broken it down at 27% sales for the more expensive version (post on previous page) and yet the avg they have for it is less than the cheapest $19.99 price.  It makes no sense.   Then there are instances where they avg the BR price out at $25 (the avg price for a BR/3D/Digital version the week it goes ion sale)  like with TFA when it also had a large portion of $19.99 sells - and both are released by Disney at the same price points for those different versions. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 24, 2016 by TalismanRing

[terrestrial]

30 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Thank you. I'm escaping from the kitchen to post here. 

Most did buy the simple BR for $19.99 but Home Media Mag had it broken it down at 27% sales for the more expensive version (post on previous page) and yet the avg they have for it is less than the cheapest $19.99 price.  It makes no sense.   Then there are instances where they avg the BR price out at $25 (the avg price for a BR/3D/Digital version the week it goes ion sale)  like with TFA when it also had a large portion of $19.99 sells - and both are released by Disney at the same price points for those different versions. 

I either do not understand the text or something they do is not logical.

 

Back to cooking before something burns?

[langer]

Anyone who was hoping that CA-Civil War would become the 6th movie to reach 100M$ on Blu Ray got their hopes slashed with that first week report.  It should be enough to make it into the top 10 Blu Ray and reach 80-85M$ in its first year.  It should also beat GotG for 4th place in the MCU for combined sales and 2nd place on Blu Ray behind the first Avengers.

 

The next movie to reach 100M$ on Blu Ray should be either Finding Dory or SW Rogue One depending on how the audience likes the movie.  I don't think any movies in the 80M-90M range (JW, ST09, TDKR) at the moment could get a sequel  bump before a new movie reaches it. 

 

Thanksgiving 2016 could also change that...

[WrathOfHan]

1 minute ago, langer said:

Anyone who was hoping that CA-Civil War would become the 6th movie to reach 100M$ on Blu Ray got their hopes slashed with that first week report.  It should be enough to make it into the top 10 Blu Ray and reach 80-85M$ in its first year.  It should also beat GotG for 4th place in the MCU for combined sales and 2nd place on Blu Ray behind the first Avengers.

 

The next movie to reach 100M$ on Blu Ray should be either Finding Dory or SW Rogue One depending on how the audience likes the movie.  I don't think any movies in the 80M-90M range (JW, ST09, TDKR) at the moment could get a sequel  bump before a new movie reaches it. 

 

Thanksgiving 2016 could also change that...

Considering the regular Blu was $8 and 3D was $10 that should give it a big boost.