How HV sales used to turn big box office hits into massive box office GIANTS

[TalismanRing]

5 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Considering the regular Blu was $8 and 3D was $10 that should give it a big boost.

 

Only for Black Friday in it's 8th or 9th week.  I think it's first time I can ever recall that happening with an MCU movie.  They don't even slash the price for Christmas - a "sale" is  $19.99 for the Combo Blu-Ray/3D

 

 

[WrathOfHan]

Just now, TalismanRing said:

 

Only for Black Friday in it's 8th or 9th week.  I think it's first time I can ever recall that happening with an MCU movie.  They don't even slash the price for Christmas - a "sale" is  $19.99 for the Combo Blu-Ray/3D

 

 

Oh definitely, I was surprised Disney let it go on sale. Even last year's "steals" Avengers and IM3 for $10 weren't on sale this year.

[TalismanRing]

10 minutes ago, langer said:

Anyone who was hoping that CA-Civil War would become the 6th movie to reach 100M$ on Blu Ray got their hopes slashed with that first week report.  It should be enough to make it into the top 10 Blu Ray and reach 80-85M$ in its first year.  It should also beat GotG for 4th place in the MCU for combined sales and 2nd place on Blu Ray behind the first Avengers.

 

The next movie to reach 100M$ on Blu Ray should be either Finding Dory or SW Rogue One depending on how the audience likes the movie.  I don't think any movies in the 80M-90M range (JW, ST09, TDKR) at the moment could get a sequel  bump before a new movie reaches it. 

 

Thanksgiving 2016 could also change that...

 

Sure, not the way The Numbers calculated the $$.  If they calculated they way they did BVS or TFA the first week would be have been $50m

[RobinHood26]

1 hour ago, TalismanRing said:

 

Only for Black Friday in it's 8th or 9th week.  I think it's first time I can ever recall that happening with an MCU movie.  They don't even slash the price for Christmas - a "sale" is  $19.99 for the Combo Blu-Ray/3D

 

 

 

Disney is always the most expensive. They never have 10 or 15 buck deals. Fucking Monsters Inc is 25 bucks, so is Bigs life still.

 

The lowest Ive seen a Marvel movie is Thor 2 for $17.99

 

Black Friday they had X-men 8 bucks each including APOC, STB was 9, Deadpool was 8, all new releases were 10 and under, but disney... Jungle book and Civil was 20 bucks! 

[WrathOfHan]

9 minutes ago, Jay Hollywood said:

 

Disney is always the most expensive. They never have 10 or 15 buck deals. Fucking Monsters Inc is 25 bucks, so is Bigs life still.

 

The lowest Ive seen a Marvel movie is Thor 2 for $17.99

 

Black Friday they had X-men 8 bucks each including APOC, STB was 9, Deadpool was 8, all new releases were 10 and under, but disney... Jungle book and Civil was 20 bucks! 

CW was 8 bucks at Best Buy ($10 3D at Walmart) and Jungle Book was 10 at Walmart.

[terrestrial]

 

DVDs are finally up to:

United States DVD Sales Chart for Week Ending September 18, 2016

		Title	Units this Week	% Change	Total Units	Spending this Week	Total Spending	Weeks
1	new	Captain America: Civil War	648,093		648,093	$11,328,666	$11,328,666	1	Buy
2	(-)	The Conjuring 2: The Enfield Poltergeist	99,178		99,178	$1,784,212	$1,784,212	3	Buy
3	new	The Big Bang Theory: 9th Season	83,656		83,656	$2,323,127	$2,323,127	1	Buy
4	(2)	Now You See Me 2	63,520	-67%	257,063	$915,323	$3,810,726	4	Buy
5	(1)	The Jungle Book	61,660	-68%	608,414	$1,230,734	$10,962,214	4	Buy
6	new	Longmire: The Complete Fourth Season	46,267		46,267	$918,863	$918,863	1	Buy
7	(3)	Me Before You	30,396	-50%	199,407	$403,355	$3,090,802	5	Buy
8	(7)	Hocus Pocus	27,641	-9%	3,049,406	$207,308	$22,424,762	746	Buy
9	(6)	The Angry Birds Movie	22,132	-34%	411,776	$335,742	$6,933,631	8	Buy
10	new	Barbie Star Light Adventure	21,154		21,154	$274,156	$274,156	1	Buy
11	(13)	Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory	16,863	-15%	2,490,097	$76,369	$12,239,627	1,042	Buy
12	new	Marauders	16,371		16,371	$206,766	$206,766	1	Buy
13	(-)	Ghostbusters	16,163	+277%	988,274	$96,816	$6,360,527	899	Buy
14	(8)	The Huntsman: Winter’s War	16,157	-39%	238,743	$274,507	$4,031,270	7	Buy
15	(-)	Stephen King's It	15,522	+43%	1,789,293	$58,984	$9,557,939	729	Buy
16	(4)	Money Monster	15,023	-71%	65,969	$269,813	$1,185,313	5	Buy
17	(10)	Deadpool	14,582	-37%	1,694,791	$171,338	$24,611,253	21	Buy
18	(14)	Young Frankenstein	13,970	-29%	1,983,913	$76,609	$14,761,830	933	Buy
19	(12)	Now You See Me	13,364	-33%	1,351,375	$60,673	$17,692,680	159	Buy
20	(19)	Blazing Saddles	12,752	-24%	1,972,267	$53,048	$11,218,474	1,207	Buy
21	(-)	Beetlejuice	12,376	+9%	1,997,721	$62,994	$10,553,500	996	Buy
22	(16)	Zootopia	12,152	-35%	2,105,820	$242,554	$41,522,452	15	Buy
23	(26)	The Wizard of Oz	11,950	-18%	7,318,167	$99,345	$83,471,191	1,017	Buy
24	(28)	Labyrinth	11,947	-11%	1,564,091	$65,508	$11,837,777	884	Buy
25	(-)	Nightmare Before Christmas, The	11,823	+35%	3,423,111	$136,707	$71,644,090	981	Buy
26	(11)	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	11,549	-44%	1,009,191	$192,406	$17,238,231	12	Buy
27	(-)	Alice in Wonderland	11,468	-10%	2,793,404	$115,575	$45,683,923	964	Buy
28	(22)	South Park: 9th Season	11,046	-30%	26,899	$220,478	$565,756	2	Buy
29	(-)	Ash vs. Evil Dead: 1st Season	10,030	+32%	50,229	$192,877	$895,078	4	Buy
30	(-)	Aristocats, The	10,029	+26%	2,335,234	$101,411	$37,018,192	859	Buy

[edroger3]

Civil War combined opening (in $) + 70% vs TWS and + 75% vs Avengers 2 but under GotG (that however had its opening in Christmas time). 2nd biggest in 2016 behind TFA.

[bapi]

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/universal-warner-bros-theater-owners-early-windows-1201931478/

 

 

The studios are looking for ways to bolster home entertainment revenue, which is suffering from an 18% decline in DVD sales.
Bloomberg reported that the time frame being weighed is two weeks to a month and that the price being considered is between $25 and $50. Insiders say that the price is likely to be on the higher end of that range and that a month delay between a film’s theatrical opening and its home entertainment bow is the most likely scenario. Theater owners would get a cut of the revenue in exchange for agreeing to the new windows.
Screening Room has not factored heavily into these latest talks with exhibitors, insiders say. Part of the reason is that the studios are not interested in giving one platform exclusive rights to content. They want the films to be available on iTunes and other retailers.

[Cochofles]

It's amazing to me how Hocus Pocus has become a perennial Halloween favorite that lives on and on and on; it's become the "All I Want for Christmas" of Halloween films...

This viral video can only help keep the [black] flame alive:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/12/01/hocus-pocus-bette-midler-young-boy-cover

Bette Midler approves of young boy's magical 'Hocus Pocus' cover

 

Edited December 2, 2016 by Cochofles

[terrestrial]

 

Beauty & Beast... wow. In Italy I think a s.e. is even in the cinames since today it appears as #10

United States Blu-ray Sales Chart for Week Ending September 25th, 2016

 

		Title	Units this Week	% Change	Total Units	Spending this Week	Total Spending	Weeks
1	(-)	Beauty and the Beast	302,296	+211,296%	3,454,557	$14,298,601	$87,656,557	729	Buy
2	(-)	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows	266,897		266,897	$6,669,759	$6,669,759	3	Buy
3	(-)	Captain America: Civil War	188,566	-91%	2,373,766	$3,763,781	$47,380,373	2	Buy
4	(-)	Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising	56,424		56,424	$1,126,214	$1,126,214	3	Buy
5	(-)	Free State of Jones	40,574		40,574	$848,406	$848,406	3	Buy
6	(-)	The Jungle Book	29,359	-60%	959,833	$674,963	$22,035,730	5	Buy
7	(-)	The Conjuring 2: The Enfield Poltergeist	20,317	-77%	110,348	$466,892	$2,536,687	4	Buy
8	(-)	Labyrinth	19,277	+540%	1,136,369	$289,354	$814,549	885	Buy
9	(-)	Now You See Me 2	19,072	-74%	302,005	$380,674	$6,028,018	5	Buy
10	(-)	The Huntsman: Winter’s War	10,991	-50%	326,755	$327,436	$9,423,213	8	Buy
11	(-)	Aladdin	10,308	-17%	1,654,268	$206,269	$35,633,531	625	Buy
12	(-)	The Little Mermaid	9,979	-13%	2,461,300	$199,276	$76,727,675	877	Buy
13	(-)	The Angry Birds Movie	9,698	-59%	469,781	$197,929	$9,329,401	9	Buy
14	(-)	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	9,407	-49%	2,057,627	$234,151	$48,779,033	13	Buy
15	(-)	Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs	8,059	-2%	2,781,838	$160,862	$72,248,234	781	Buy
16	(-)	Hocus Pocus	5,943	+1%	151,837	$59,372	$1,856,374	747	Buy
17	(-)	Deadpool	5,774	-41%	2,950,107	$115,188	$57,582,475	22	Buy
18	(-)	Me Before You	5,744	-62%	95,058	$114,183	$1,839,453	6	Buy
-	(-)	Frankenstein: Complete Legacy Collection	5,709	-63%	20,984	$174,404	$641,041	2	Buy
-	(-)	The Iron Giant	5,654	+11%	47,730	$58,009	$489,712	879	Buy

Edited December 7, 2016 by terrestrial
typo at Numbers? I copied it then - date was wrong

[terrestrial]

 

And now the DVDs asr finally up too

 

United States DVD Sales Chart for Week Ending September 25, 2016

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Chart Index

 

		Title	Units this Week	% Change	Total Units	Spending this Week	Total Spending	Weeks
1	(-)	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows	124,955		124,955	$2,122,985	$2,122,985	3	Buy
2	(1)	Captain America: Civil War	112,732	-83%	760,825	$1,970,555	$13,299,221	2	Buy
3	(-)	Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising	54,269		54,269	$927,457	$927,457	3	Buy
4	(-)	Free State of Jones	50,652		50,652	$865,643	$865,643	3	Buy
5	(2)	The Conjuring 2: The Enfield Poltergeist	36,392	-63%	135,570	$654,692	$2,438,904	4	Buy
6	(5)	The Jungle Book	31,950	-48%	640,364	$637,083	$11,599,297	5	Buy
7	(8)	Hocus Pocus	30,748	+11%	3,080,154	$125,452	$22,550,214	747	Buy
8	(4)	Now You See Me 2	23,818	-63%	280,881	$356,317	$4,167,044	5	Buy
9	(3)	The Big Bang Theory: The Complete Ninth Season	18,896	-77%	102,552	$528,710	$2,851,837	2	Buy
10	new	Modern Family: The Complete Season Seven	16,618		16,618	$331,695	$331,695	1	Buy
11	(17)	Deadpool	15,787	+8%	1,710,578	$163,711	$24,774,964	22	Buy
12	(7)	Me Before You	15,163	-50%	214,570	$242,153	$3,332,955	6	Buy
13	(13)	Ghostbusters	13,375	-17%	1,001,649	$54,971	$6,415,498	900	Buy
14	(9)	The Angry Birds Movie	12,563	-43%	424,339	$213,445	$7,147,076	9	Buy
15	(15)	Stephen King's It	12,256	-21%	1,801,549	$45,837	$9,603,776	730	Buy
16	(19)	Now You See Me	11,966	-10%	1,363,341	$47,744	$17,740,424	160	Buy
17	(24)	Labyrinth	10,313	-14%	1,574,404	$61,168	$11,898,945	885	Buy
18	(14)	The Huntsman: Winter’s War	9,993	-38%	248,736	$169,781	$4,201,051	8	Buy
19	(22)	Zootopia	8,866	-27%	2,114,686	$174,749	$41,697,200	16	Buy
20	(26)	Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice	7,877	-32%	1,017,068	$141,471	$17,379,702	13	Buy
21	(25)	Nightmare Before Christmas, The	6,993	-41%	3,430,104	$56,087	$71,700,177	982	Buy
22	(18)	Young Frankenstein	6,911	-51%	1,990,824	$42,017	$14,803,848	934	Buy
23	(11)	Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory	6,897	-59%	2,496,994	$30,216	$12,269,842	1,043	Buy
24	(6)	Longmire: The Complete Fourth Season	6,674	-86%	52,941	$133,013	$1,051,875	2	Buy
25	(20)	Blazing Saddles	6,455	-49%	1,978,722	$26,917	$11,245,391	1,208	Buy
26	(21)	Beetlejuice	6,106	-51%	2,003,827	$31,080	$10,584,579	997	Buy
27	(-)	War Room	6,031	-38%	1,621,707	$78,162	$29,775,909	42	Buy
28	(-)	The Sandlot	5,818	-27%	4,286,496	$23,214	$29,935,428	765	Buy
29	(-)	Castle: The Complete Eighth and Final Season	5,700	-22%	55,591	$188,043	$1,836,803	5	Buy
30	new	Tombstone	5,657	-34%	1,962,161	$34,977	$18,292,043	1,142	Buy

[bapi]

How many movies made $20+ million in DVD sales:

 

2013 - 36

2014 - 22

2015 - 13

2016 - 4 so far

 

And in blu-ray:

 

2013 - 27

2014 - 20

2015 - 21

2016 - 11 so far

[langer]

On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2015 at 7:38 AM, bapi said:

I think SW will do well but not Frozen-well. 160-180M is my prediction.

 

Just a friendly bump.  Looks like you were spot on my friend.

[langer]

On ‎3‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 3:10 PM, langer said:

On ‎3‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 3:10 PM, langer said:

  On ‎3‎/‎9‎/‎2016 at 2:42 PM, WrathOfHan said:

Do you think Deadpool can beat DOFP when it's out in May?

 

It has a good chance.  First entries tend to do better than sequels, I think it can do about 80% of GotG seeing as the market is probably down 20% since 2014.  90M$ would be a good target between the HV release date and the sequel release date (2 year span).

 

Another friendly bump, it beat DOFP, but it will end up with more than the 90M$ I predicted. 

[langer]

On ‎5‎/‎8‎/‎2016 at 9:09 PM, langer said:

 

Anyone fancy a prediction on SW?  With the various reports that we got, passing JW (125M) is a given.   Could it become the first movie to cross 200M combined since Frozen in 2014 or the first live action movie since Avengers in 2013?   

 

I personally think that the floor for TFA is 175M in its first 12 months on the HV market. 

 

Depending on how Thanksgiving, Christmas and the Rogue One boost affect TFA, I think my prediction was pretty much spot on.  Best case scenario, TFA will be just a notch under 200M$ when April comes. 

[bapi]

6 hours ago, langer said:

 

Just a friendly bump.  Looks like you were spot on my friend.

ohh thank you.

[kowhite]

Maybe somebody should start a digital sales thread.

 

Soon, that will be more important.  The downstream TV sales thread?  Already more important.  But I guess nobody can quantify that...

[elcaballero]

1 minute ago, kowhite said:

Maybe somebody should start a digital sales thread.

Actual numbers are really hard to come across, unfortunately (unless someone here is an insider ).

[kowhite]

Just now, elcaballero said:

Actual numbers are really hard to come across, unfortunately (unless someone here is an insider ).

 

Dont look at me.

[robertman2]

Never mind

Edited December 8, 2016 by robertman2
Liberal conservative agenda caused me to post in the wrong thread