How HV sales used to turn big box office hits into massive box office GIANTS

[langer]

Tangled was actually quite the home video beast in 2011 ( well as far as 2011 standards go). Pretty sure it outsold both How to Train Your Dragon and Despicable Me, at least initially.

 

Tangled was indeed the best DVD seller of 2011, but if you look at the charts of  The-Numbers,  you'll see it received an update between July 2013 and April 2014 going from 104M$ to 134M$.  2 reasons can explain that :

 

- Original sales from 2011 were underestimated

- Frozen gave Tangled a boost during its theatrical release and its sales were once again underestimated during weekly reports

 

Oddly Blu Ray sales have not received a boost, strongly suggesting that original DVD sales were underestimated.

[terrestrial]

Tangled was indeed the best DVD seller of 2011, but if you look at the charts of  The-Numbers,  you'll see it received an update between July 2013 and April 2014 going from 104M$ to 134M$.  2 reasons can explain that :

 

- Original sales from 2011 were underestimated

- Frozen gave Tangled a boost during its theatrical release and its sales were once again underestimated during weekly reports

 

Oddly Blu Ray sales have not received a boost, strongly suggesting that original DVD sales were underestimated.

 

Was there a combi-box? If yes, they might have split the revenues up too. Or some special offer for still available discs...

[langer]

Was there a combi-box? If yes, they might have split the revenues up too. Or some special offer for still available discs...

 

I don't know.  Keep in mind that The Numbers are only estimating the units and $ revenues.  The Home Video business keep their numbers hidden for various reasons but the best guess is that they want to be able to do some creative accounting in order to minimize the royalties they have to pay to actors, writers, composers, producers...etc...

[terrestrial]

I don't know.  Keep in mind that The Numbers are only estimating the units and $ revenues.  The Home Video business keep their numbers hidden for various reasons but the best guess is that they want to be able to do some creative accounting in order to minimize the royalties they have to pay to actors, writers, composers, producers...etc...

 

Thanks, I am aware about especially the royalties... Was more bcs. naming another possibilty for the jump

[narniadis]

Also part of the problem that the numbers has is that the big retailers such as walmart do not provide any kind of sales data - I assume at studio request thereby making the estimate portion all the more tricky

[kowhite]

I don't know.  Keep in mind that The Numbers are only estimating the units and $ revenues.  The Home Video business keep their numbers hidden for various reasons but the best guess is that they want to be able to do some creative accounting in order to minimize the royalties they have to pay to actors, writers, composers, producers...etc...

I think they keep their numbers hidden because...well...

Why share if you don't have to? It's not like there's a benefit. Box office is just entrenched. No need for conspiracies. And additionally, I think people way overstate how much effort is put into screwing over talent with "Hollywood accounting".

[catlover]

Guardians of the Galaxy soundtrack has sold more than 900K copies in the US and will definitely cross 1 million sales soon. Very impressive considering the album is pretty much a compilation of old songs

 

But to many (younger) people, they are new songs . In all seriousness though, they are not just songs "inspired by" the movie. Each of them (except 1) was actually used in the movie in a memorable and perfectly fit scene. The fact that the songs are awesome also help.

[BK007]

http://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart

 

It may be an error, but if not, first week Blu-Ray sales for 2014 movies:

 

This is Where I Leave You 2,822

Magic in the Moonlight 2,002

Skeleton Twins 1,666

 

would show you how bad the market is these days.

 

Back in 2006, the-numbers have data from the 1st week of Jan, all of these small release would still sell hundred of thousands of copies.

 

It might be an error considering that Hundred Foot Journey and When the Game Stands Tall could sell 100k copies in their first week.

 

2k is pretty much end of the world.

[BK007]

Rank Title Total units Total Consumer Spending Original Video Release Date 1 Avatar 7,242,826 $160,850,784 Apr 22, 2010 2 Frozen 7,026,723 $147,760,021 Mar 18, 2014 3 Despicable Me 2 5,676,220 $112,483,753 Dec 10, 2013 4 The Avengers 5,161,024 $116,748,011 Sep 25, 2012 5 Star Trek 3,982,478 $89,647,882 Nov 17, 2009 6 The Dark Knight Rises 3,956,495 $79,408,972 Dec 4, 2012 7 Inception 3,820,667 $76,924,238 Dec 7, 2010 8 The Hunger Games 3,608,980 $68,971,783 Aug 18, 2012 9 The Hangover 3,434,110 $57,387,939 Dec 15, 2009 10 Beauty and the Beast 3,257,786 $75,824,723 Oct 8, 2002 11 Despicable Me 3,224,195 $73,116,401 Dec 14, 2010 12 Monsters University 3,191,121 $74,111,178 Oct 29, 2013 13 Man of Steel 3,173,098 $64,103,139 Nov 12, 2013 14 The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey 3,130,774 $74,311,888 Mar 19, 2013 15 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part I 3,101,844 $60,642,879 Apr 15, 2011 16 Fast and Furious 6 2,987,251 $74,242,584 Dec 10, 2013 17 The Lion King 2,970,582 $88,981,589 Mar 3, 1995 18 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part II 2,906,788 $59,397,488 Nov 11, 2011 19 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire 2,874,962 $56,854,632 Mar 7, 2014 20 Transformers: Dark of the Moon 2,764,306 $56,418,747 Sep 30, 2011 21 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince 2,678,840 $43,324,414 Dec 8, 2009 22 The Dark Knight (See note) 2,643,349 $34,204,453 Dec 9, 2008 23 Skyfall 2,632,202 $51,770,940 Feb 12, 2013 24 Lord of the Rings - The Motion Picture Trilogy 2,603,044 $146,956,701 Dec 14, 2004 25 Brave 2,589,947 $55,609,547 Nov 13, 2012 26 Iron Man 2 2,560,302 $56,229,106 Sep 28, 2010 27 Up 2,555,672 $53,439,515 Nov 10, 2009 28 Guardians of the Galaxy 2,552,125 $52,063,350 Dec 9, 2014 29 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen 2,467,394 $51,889,349 Oct 20, 2009 30 Toy Story 3 2,375,566 $58,708,185 Nov 2, 2010 31 The Little Mermaid 2,366,417 $76,336,018 Dec 7, 1999 32 Star Trek Into Darkness 2,340,996 $57,778,900 Sep 10, 2013 33 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides 2,298,818 $58,095,893 Oct 18, 2011 34 Ted 2,286,716 $48,433,537 Dec 11, 2012 35 The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug 2,235,682 $58,455,545 Apr 8, 2014 36 Tangled 2,196,772 $59,467,300 Mar 29, 2011 37 The Wolverine 2,067,932 $41,160,926 Dec 3, 2013 38 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 2,063,859 $55,283,655 Oct 9, 2001 39 Transformers: Age of Extinction 2,025,345 $34,983,839 Sep 30, 2014 40 Captain America: The First Avenger 2,017,644 $61,053,659 Oct 25, 2011 41 Thor: The Dark World 1,978,395 $39,300,571 Feb 25, 2014 42 Pacific Rim 1,945,670 $12,832,730 Oct 15, 2013 43 Inglourious Basterds 1,889,724 $35,310,517 Dec 15, 2009 44 Rio 1,889,609 $35,526,097 Aug 2, 2011 45 Watchmen 1,887,630 $35,007,006 Jul 21, 2009 46 Wreck-It Ralph 1,817,374 $56,263,396 Mar 5, 2013 47 How to Train Your Dragon 2 1,786,618 $34,208,869 Nov 11, 2014 48 Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Episodes I-VI) 1,776,908 $147,484,656 Sep 27, 2011 49 The Amazing Spider-Man 1,773,052 $68,089,698 Nov 9, 2012 50 Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows 1,771,213 $36,072,537 Jun 12, 2012

Edited January 8, 2015 by BK007

[BK007]

Shit. How does one paste as is from other websites?

 

I've seen people do that for BOM charts a lot. 

[Olive]

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I've seen people do that for BOM charts a lot. 

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[terrestrial]

The week till 21 December is up now too, the people there seem to be back at work. But the Single charts do not look right.(DVD is empty)

 

Interesting is (see the posts... about sold out GotG Blu-Rays), GotG has a minus 80% for Blu-Rays in the 2nd week, could confirm the sold out detail - or the customer already fullfill their buying wishes.

 

Waitung for a bit for the combined chart, maybe in an hour os so they'll have added DVDs too

 

Blu-Ray:

http://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/bluray-sales-chart/2014/12/21

[terrestrial]

O mei, now the sums of week till 21 Dec are smaller than in the week till 14 December. I am guessing they are really working on it, they might have loaded up the detail for week till 21 Dec too early

[terrestrial]

Nearly forgot why I was in this thread

 

 

 

 

Discs Still Dominate U.K. Home Entertainment Consumer Spending

Consumers spent £2 billion ($3 billion) on video entertainment in 2014, underscored by a 30% spike in digital revenue

While digital revenue surged, more consumers in the United Kingdom bought and rented DVD and Blu-ray titles in 2014, according to year-end data from the British Video Association.

With the U.K. the third-largest home video market in the world, total retail sales topped £1.43 billion ($2.1 billion) in 2014 with DVDs and Blu-ray accounting for 89% of spending — the remaining on Digital HD.

Video rentals and subscriptions were estimated to be £755m ($1.1 billion), with pay-TV, on-demand and Internet subscription services (i.e. Netflix and Amazon Prime Instant Video) accounting for 81% of revenue, and the balance being disc rentals.

“Video is as popular as it has ever been despite competition for consumers’ time and money. Research shows that video discs represent an emotional purchase and form of owning content that can be enjoyed again and again. Shoppers are choosing new ways to buy such as Digital HD downloads and renting on demand, but these figures show that DVDs and Blu-rays are still the most popular way to watch and own video,” BVA chief executive Liz Bales said in a statement.

Indeed, some 22 million Brits bought a video to own on disc or as a Digital HD download during the year, more than those that visited the cinema (16 million). Meanwhile 7.5 million people rented a video, according to shopping analysts Kantar Worldpanel.

“Digital consumption of video continues to grow at a prestigious rate in the U.K. Not least of these channels is digital retail. Thanks to industry initiatives such as early releasing (Digital HD), the platform has maintained an impressive growth rate, forecast at 25% in 2014,” Richard Cooper, head of video analysis at IHS, said in a statement.

Top-selling discs in 2014 (DVD and Blu-ray)

1. Frozen (Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment)
2. The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug (Warner Home Video)
3. The Lego Movie (Warner)
4. The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (Lionsgate U.K.)
5. Mrs. Brown’s Boys – D’Movie (BBC Home Entertainment)
6. Guardians of the Galaxy (Disney)
7. Gravity (Warner)
8. The Wolf of Wall Street (Paramount Home Media Distribution)
9. The Inbetweeners Movie 2 (Channel 4 DVD)
10. Thor: The Dark World (Disney)

 

 

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/discs-still-dominate-uk-home-entertainment-consumer-spending-34931

 

 

edit: ??? something is strange, should be one Quote wth a text not in one row at the beginning

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[BK007]

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AND NEVER EDIT IT AGAIN

 

 

There is a possibility to edit it, but I always forget how.

 

So in your case I'd edited the .... slightly full post to empty and start a new post.

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So:

While digital revenue surged, more consumers in the United Kingdom bought and rented DVD and Blu-ray titles in 2014, according to year-end data from the British Video Association.

With the U.K. the third-largest home video market in the world, total retail sales topped £1.43 billion ($2.1 billion) in 2014 with DVDs and Blu-ray accounting for 89% of spending — the remaining on Digital HD.

Video rentals and subscriptions were estimated to be £755m ($1.1 billion), with pay-TV, on-demand and Internet subscription services (i.e. Netflix and Amazon Prime Instant Video) accounting for 81% of revenue, and the balance being disc rentals.

 

The breakout:

Physical disc: $1.87 billion (.89*$2.1b)

Digital HD: $ 0.23 billion

Rental: $ 0.21 billion (0.19*$1.1b)

VOD/Subscription: $ 0.89 billion

 

So, calibrating to the physical disk at 100%,

Digital HD is at 12%

Rental at 11%

VOD/subscription at 48%

Total Digital+Rental+VOD = 71%

 

So, it is probably a good estimate that Digital+Rental+VOD is about 50% of the physical DVD/Blu-ray revenue (if not higher). At least in the bigger country such as UK or US.

[terrestrial]

 

 

 

Edited January 8, 2015 by terrestrial

[terrestrial]

VOD UK

 

[terrestrial]

Interested in such details too?