The Greatest Showman | PT Barnum Biopic starring Hugh Jackman. Fox releasing. Christmas 2017

[Valonqar]

7 minutes ago, Cochofles said:

Watch it become a holiday smash! 

Then again, I predicted GB16 to make over 300 million and The Avengers to open with 85 million 

 

Over TLJ! 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 28, 2017 by Valonqar

[Fancyarcher]

Looks pretty good. Jackman looks to be well-casted if anything.

[Valonqar]

4 hours ago, That One Guy said:

 

There's someone on another forum insisting it's bad (he saw it at the advance screening). I see there's hate coming from all corners. I thought this looks like a crowd pleaser in making. Oh well. 

Edited June 28, 2017 by Valonqar

[Krissykins]

Yeeesh. This looks so misguided.

 

Was he really all about people showing who they are? Or did he just put people on stage because they were "freaks"?

 

 

[Valonqar]

2 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Yeeesh. This looks so misguided.

 

Was he really all about people showing who they are? Or did he just put people on stage because they were "freaks"?

 

 

 

I didn't get that idea but I don't look for political incorrection in trailers and I'm sure GA doesn't either. That said, it doesn't strike me as an awards contender but it should make money. 

[dashrendar44]

This seems to have get the Disney biopic's bleaching treatment. The real PT Barnum was a leggit skeevy snakecharmer of a conman who exploited people and animals for his lucrative ends like a business savvy cynical entertainer.(He basically posited that general audience is dumb so big dumb freakshow cattering to the lowest denominator will sell big). 

 

Funny that he was more like Robert Angier (his assholic character in The Prestige) but now Jackman seems to genuinely play him like a paternalistic but altruistic dreamer.

Edited June 28, 2017 by dashrendar44

[75Live]

Decent trailer.  Not sure it will get me in theater to see it, but isn't wasn't bad

[TalismanRing]

14 minutes ago, dashrendar44 said:

This seems to have get the Disney biopic's bleaching treatment. The real PT Barnum was a leggit skeevy snakecharmer of a conman who exploited people and animals for his lucrative ends like a business savvy cynical entertainer.(He basically posited that general audience is dumb so big dumb spectacle cattering to the lowest denominator will sell big). 

 

Funny that he was more like Robert Angier (his assholic character in The Prestige) but now Jackman seems to genuinely play him like a paternalistic but altruistic dreamer.

 

It's not a unique or new interpretation of Barnum.   The theater musical Barnum from the 1980s (Jim Dale, Michael Crawford etc) did the same, or at least showed him as much dreamer as huckster and showman - and it still gets revived. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 28, 2017 by TalismanRing

[Hatebox]

Reading Barnum's wiki it's a real shame this movie's going down the hagiography route: there were so many dubious areas of his life it would make a great biopic if done right.

 

 

Edited June 28, 2017 by Hatebox

[Cmasterclay]

Yeeeeeesh this looks bad. It looks like a bad movie on top of all the skeevy shit dash did a good job summing up. Oof.

[dashrendar44]

27 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

It's not a unique or new interpretation of Barnum.   The theater musical Barnum from the 1980s (Jim Dale, Michael Crawford etc) did the same, or at least showed him as much dreamer as huckster and showman - and it still gets revived. 

 

 

 

 

 

Indeed the issue is the fact that it seems like a common revisionist glamorization of Barnum as the godfather of modern entertainment like those before it that keeps on avoiding the darkest side of the story to frame it as this uplifting tale of success. This movie sure won't rock the boat and paint Barnum with a grey brush.

Edited June 28, 2017 by dashrendar44

[Krissykins]

58 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

I didn't get that idea but I don't look for political incorrection in trailers and I'm sure GA doesn't either. That said, it doesn't strike me as an awards contender but it should make money. 

 

I don't look for political "incorrection" in trailers either. 

 

But this is jarring.

[Cochofles]

4 hours ago, Valonqar said:

 

There's someone on another forum insisting it's bad (he saw it at the advance screening). I see there's hate coming from all corners. I thought this looks like a crowd pleaser in making. Oh well. 

 

I am so lame for this, but here goes: I am already stanning for/shippping Zendaya's and Zac Efron's characters. That scene of her dressed in purple looking at him while hanging from a trapeze gave me chills; it looks so beautiful and haunting. I have no clue about who these people are, but I already want them to be together. In fact, I am looking forward to the movie, and it has nothing to do with PTB, and everything to do with Zendefron.    

[DAR]

Trailer was okay but I wouldn't be surprised if this is a big hit over Christmas

[ban1o]

it looks like a crowd pleaser. I think it will be a bit hit. The trailer is getting a pretty good reaction too. 

 

Sure there is the stuff about accuracy but I doubt audience will care much about that. 

[Jonwo]

I dug the trailer and it's nice to see Zac Efron in something that's not an R rated comedy. The composer and lyricists for this did the lyrics for La La Land and won a Tony Award for Dear Evan Hansen. 

[Chewy]

19 minutes ago, ban1o said:

Sure there is the stuff about accuracy but I doubt audience will care much about that. 

 

In the year 2017 the truth is bad

[shayhiri]

7 hours ago, dashrendar44 said:

He basically posited that general audience is dumb so big dumb freakshow cattering to the lowest denominator will sell big).

 

Well, he is not wrong, you know.

 

Just look at the Transformers and all the other superhero stuff of nowadays...

[shayhiri]

9 hours ago, Cochofles said:

Loved it.

LOVED IT. 

Jackman and Williams are great, but I am here for the Zendefron. Watch as their romance captivates audiences (I hope!)... 

 

Are you a girl? How old?

 

The Shay is a 41 year old macho man, if I have to answer first.

[Alli]

This looks like a crowd pleaser. I say 150M