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JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM | 22 JUN 2018 | Universal | J.A. Bayona to direct | The Park is Closed | NOT THE FRANCHISE WARS THREAD

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 It's hard to compare what CGI can achieve today versus what Spielberg/ILM achieved in the original. The original was a game changer. I remember sitting in that theater seat back when hype was mainly relegated to short TV spots, trailers in cinema, and magazines like Empire, Entertainment Weekly, Fangoria, etc. I wasn't prepared. Too young to be, and not showered with a barrage of information beforehand.

 

Needless to say, it was a rare moment of visual nirvana that would seldom be matched. Terminator 2 and Jurassic Park showcased Hollywood a new and powerful tool. A tool that hasn't truly been able to replicate that first time experience again. So, it's kind of unfair to the artists on this film to compare their work to the original. They lack the precedence, work on a tighter schedule, and a don't have a consistently proven master at the helm. 

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2 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

This actually looks pretty great to me. 

 

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Great for a cartoon, but definitely not great for 2018 live action movie with 170 mln budget.

2 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

The dinosaurs and how they look have never been the weak link of Jurassic movies

of Jurassic Park trilogy, but not Jurassic World movies, they miss the whole point of the franchise, especially FK.

2 hours ago, MrFanaticGuy34 said:

Thank you. Finally someone with a brain and knowledge.

That someone is not you 😉

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10 hours ago, Firepower said:

That someone is not you . 😉

Hey! You calling me stupid? :kitschjob:

My god...how lower can you go with that gleefull emoticon?

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Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Greater Sacramento Area Seat Report: T-8 Days and counting

 

 

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

111

9394

11263

16.59%

 

Total Seats Sold Today:              94

 

.2229x as many tickets sold as Infinity War 8 days before release. (IW had 19 more days of pre-sales)

.5411x as many tickets sold as Black Panther 8 days before release (BP had 16 more days of pre-sales) 

.5813x as many tickets sold as Deadpool 2  8 days before release (DP2 had one plus more days of pre-sales) 

.5142x as many tickets sold as Solo 8 days before release pre-sales (Solo had 20 days of pre-sales compared to JW:FK's 22 days of presales)

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The VFX are certainly good for the World movies, but I have to admit there's something about those practical dinos in the Park films that are hard to beat.

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3 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:

The VFX are certainly good for the World movies, but I have to admit there's something about those practical dinos in the Park films that are hard to beat.

but you can say that about all sorts of things, I prefer the practical effects of the original STAR WARS but that doesnt mean the new films vfx suck. 

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JW2 needs 424 to have a better drop from JW1 than JP2 had from JP1.

And needs 432 to have a better drom from JW1 than TLJ had from TFA.

 

Both look suspect if the OW falls below 160-165 using a multiplier close to 2.6x.

If we use a multiplier closer to 2.5x then 400 becomes the target even with 160-165 ow.

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This is gonna be like Avengers. Big drop from first to second, then takes it back and gets back to the numbers of first in the third movie. 

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1 hour ago, Ranger Tree said:

This is gonna be like Avengers. Big drop from first to second, then takes it back and gets back to the numbers of first in the third movie. 

If JW3 will be as bad or even worse than JW2, it'll decrease for sure, there's no reason why it would increase. Avengers comparison is not correct.

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4 minutes ago, Firepower said:

If JW3 will be as bad or even worse than JW2, it'll decrease for sure, there's no reason why it would increase. Avengers comparison is not correct.

JW2 small scale, JW3 big scale. Same as avengers, car park brawl vs. universal destruction.

 

Also dont think people will think JW2 is bad.

 

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22 minutes ago, Firepower said:

If JW3 will be as bad or even worse than JW2, it'll decrease for sure, there's no reason why it would increase. Avengers comparison is not correct.

There will be a JW2.5 civil war-spinosaurus vs indominus that people will claim is not a true JW film because it looks so much worse at the box office before JW3: infinity park releases.

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36 minutes ago, Ranger Tree said:

JW2 small scale, JW3 big scale. Same as avengers, car park brawl vs. universal destruction.

 

Also dont think people will think JW2 is bad.

 

Infinity War didn't make 2 bln+ because of bigger scale, it made 2 bln+ because it was huge event 10 years in making, "culmination" of the whole franchise, all heroes in one movie + great quality. JW3 doesn't have this kind of bonuses, but it has a shitty predecessor and will have a terrible script with awful plot too. They need something more than "more dinosaurs" to not decrease again.

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on the edge, after 101 reviews

60%
Average Rating: 6.2/10
Reviews Counted: 101
Fresh: 61
Rotten: 40
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2 hours ago, Firepower said:

Infinity War didn't make 2 bln+ because of bigger scale, it made 2 bln+ because it was huge event 10 years in making, "culmination" of the whole franchise, all heroes in one movie + great quality. JW3 doesn't have this kind of bonuses, but it has a shitty predecessor and will have a terrible script with awful plot too. They need something more than "more dinosaurs" to not decrease again.

Shitty predecessors didn’t stop other films crossing a billion.

 

Shitty is your own opinion so 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Yeah, I feel like this franchise is going to go the same way as it did the first time.. diminishing returns, then a long break, then another big movie, etc, etc.

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5 hours ago, Ranger Tree said:

This is gonna be like Avengers. Big drop from first to second, then takes it back and gets back to the numbers of first in the third movie. 

Nope. The concept is too limited for this to rise on the third film. If nothing else FK will have a matrix reloaded effect on the Jurassic franchise.

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1 hour ago, Krissykins said:

Shitty predecessors didn’t stop other films crossing a billion.

Say that to Transformers, Pirates and recently Star Wars.

1 hour ago, Krissykins said:

Shitty is your own opinion so

Says WW fan who can't see the difference between good and bad CGI 😉

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1 hour ago, Krissykins said:

Shitty predecessors didn’t stop other films crossing a billion.

 

Shitty is your own opinion so 🤷🏻‍♂️

His opinion seems to be the opinion of most people that have watched the film. Even the people who “liked” this film say “this was terrible in everything, story,structure, acting but it had cool Dinos”.

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8 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said:

Nope. The concept is too limited for this to rise on the third film. If nothing else FK will have a matrix reloaded effect on the Jurassic franchise.

the best thing about Fallen Kingdom is that it is the first film of the 5 to actually have a different concept. with the (non-specific spoiler)

cliffhanger ending

I think people will want to come back a third time unlike with JP3 where it really was dead. If JP2 was a re-run of JP1... well JW2 is NOT a re-run of JW1.

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16 minutes ago, Firepower said:

Say that to Transformers, Pirates and recently Star Wars.

Says WW fan who can't see the difference between good and bad CGI 😉

I swear to god: trying to prove others wrong with a gleeful emoji, is not going to cut it.

 

And BTW, this is not the thread to bring up your anti-WW shit, so do it in the DC-thread if you are obsessed over hating it.

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