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Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle | December 22 2017 | Special showings for Amazon Prime members on December 8

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6 minutes ago, Alli said:

I see no problem with reboots/remakes after a while with different actors.  What i have a problem with is sequels that no one asked for. Studios don't know when to stop. so many sequels have flopped and are not as good as the original. especially comedies seem to suffer this fate.   lookin' at you Daddy's Home 2 right now...i expect an under performance

 

They still tend to do much better than the average comedy when they underperform.

 

Original

Fist Fight:

Domestic:  $32,187,017    78.5%
Foreign:  $8,800,000    21.5%

Worldwide:  $40,987,017  

 

Why him ?

Domestic:  $60,323,786    51.1%
Foreign:  $57,710,487    48.9%

Worldwide:  $118,034,273  

 

The Boss

Domestic:  $63,285,885    80.3%
Foreign:  $15,558,697    19.7%

Worldwide:  $78,844,582  

 

Rought Night

Domestic:  $18,671,063    70.9%
Foreign:  $7,671,830    29.1%

Worldwide:  $26,342,893  

 

 

Perceived has underperforming sequel were still all nice success:

 

Neighbors 2:

Domestic:  $55,455,765    51.3%
Foreign:  $52,551,344    48.7%

Worldwide:  $108,007,109  

 

Ted 2:

Domestic:  $81,476,385    37.6%
Foreign:  $135,215,348    62.4%

Worldwide:  $216,691,733

 

Paul mart 2:

Domestic:  $71,038,190    66.0%
Foreign:  $36,550,035    34.0%

Worldwide:  $107,588,225  

 

Horrible boss 2:

Domestic:  $54,445,357    50.6%
Foreign:  $53,225,000    49.4%

Worldwide:  $107,670,357  

 

Anchorman 2:

Domestic:  $127,352,707    73.3%
Foreign:  $46,296,308    26.7%

Worldwide:  $173,649,015  

 

Bumb and dumber to

Domestic:  $86,208,010    50.8%
Foreign:  $83,629,000    49.2%

Worldwide:  $169,837,010  

 

 

With some just flat out success in the bunch like 22 jump street, Bidgets jones

 

The comedy sequel track record is still impressive overall:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=comedysequel.htm&sort=date&order=DESC&p=.htm

 

Except for Ban santa 2, zoolander 2 and Hot tub time machine 2, it is mostly a long list of nice success, even Grown Up 2, a really nice batting record, I suspect Daddy Home 2 will beat (if not destroy) almost all live action non sequel pure comedy of this year.

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I have never seen the original. I will not pretend to be offended or carry on with fake outrage. Even if I had seen the original there is no problem with a remake or sequel. As long as it's good, who cares? Most of us who bitch and complain about remakes or sequels do so when the film itself sucks....not because they're actually making a remake or sequel. 

 

The Star Wars franchise got a "reboot" or whatever and everyone loved it. Make the films good and no one complains except for those who always look for something to complain about. 

 

Having said that, this film looks dumb/bad. And not because it's a remake or a sequel or whatever it's being called. It just looks bad TO ME. So now that I've seen what it looks like and I don't like how it looks, I'm taking myself out of the thread. Those of you who do nothing but spew negativity and complain should follow suit. 

 

You dont like how a movie looks or arent a fan? Great. State your opinion and make your way out of the thread. Why continually spew out the same negative nonsense over and over again over something you have no interest in seeing. Makes no sense at all. 

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The irony is the same people bashing this movie that could have potential and is different are the same ones who'll lap up and love the new Beauty and The Beast remake.

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Star Wars did not get a reboot. Why can't people say that they dislike The Force Awakens without peddling a provable lie? The Force Awakens was an obvious sequel. All of the Star Wars characters are there played by the exact same actors from the original trilogy and they're playing the exact same characters 40 years later.

 

You don't have to like how closely its structure hued to a New Hope but it was not a reboot. Jurassic World wasn't a reboot either. Call a sequel a sequel when it is a sequel. If this new Jumanji movie is a sequel then it's the sequel, I'm not going to call anything else. 

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1 minute ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

You don't have to like how closely its structure hued to a New Hope but it was not a reboot. Jurassic World wasn't a reboot either. Call a sequel a sequel when it is a sequel. If this new Jumanji movie is a sequel then it's the sequel, I'm not going to call anything else. 

 

It is me not having seen JW3 talking but is it really clear that it is a sequel of JW 3 ?, it felt like even Jurassic 2 never happened in that universe. And 2 Kids stuck a dinosaur park that goes bad that need to be saved by a not direct family member and some dinosaur specialist guy. That is really not far from a remake.

 

Putting Luke for 5 seconds does not make him being in the movie, the movie are about the new characters imo the old one are close to irrelevant in Force Awaken, you could easily remove them. But you are right than even thought the story is very close to the OT, it is in a mirror way. Still felt a lot like a reboot to me, that does not goes much on what happened to the empire vs rebel and restart with a new but very similar dynamic.

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The functional difference between a sequel, especially one with a new creative team, and a reboot is close to non-existent. Always find it a lil odd when people try to draw some line between the two

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40 minutes ago, YourMother said:

The irony is the same people bashing this movie that could have potential and is different are the same ones who'll lap up and love the new Beauty and The Beast remake.

The Hypocrisy is very funny. They bash this film yet praise lazy rehash like Force Awaken and live action Beauty and the Beast :redcapes:

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2 minutes ago, Hades said:

The Hypocrisy is very funny. They bash this film yet praise lazy rehash like Force Awaken and live action Beauty and the Beast :redcapes:

Force Awakens was a sequel through and through. I'm not denying that TFA had a lot of similar plot points but the characters are done so well and the story feels new and different. It's a great movie. Beast on the other hand is the exact same.

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37 minutes ago, Chewy said:

The functional difference between a sequel, especially one with a new creative team, and a reboot is close to non-existent. Always find it a lil odd when people try to draw some line between the two

 

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here.

 

Sequel - continues the narrative

 

Reboot - restarts the narrative

 

Pretty easy to make a line of distinction between the two.

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2 minutes ago, cookie said:

 

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here.

 

Sequel - continues the narrative

 

Reboot - restarts the narrative

 

Pretty easy to make a line of distinction between the two.

 

It is not always totally clear, because many movie restart the narrative but insert in some background element way to make it look like a sequel because Reboot/Remake got a bad name (say the Ghostbuster a very clear reboot/remake, but you can read the Sony e-mail with people talking about it has a reboot but to name it something else in the press, to not have the R word mentionned), a bit like for those Part1/2 getting removed from movie title.

 

Jurassic World is one of those really muddy mix between a sequel and a remake (remove the previous movies, how much do you need to change this movie for people to be able to follow the plot?), it does not continue the narrative of JW3 really, but still use a bit of the very first movie narrative in it.

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1 minute ago, cookie said:

 

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at here.

 

Sequel - continues the narrative

 

Reboot - restarts the narrative

 

Pretty easy to make a line of distinction between the two.

 

Cast young stars, play on audience nostalgia for #brands, try to launch a new series. The aims are the same. Whether Jurassic World acknowledges the continuity of the last films or not doesn't really matter in a functional sense.

 

The narrative continuity tends to be really threadbare anyway on these much-later sequels. Lip service

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