Fullbuster Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 One thing is certain : without WDAS 2017 will be a terrible year for animation Only Coco could surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcaballero Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 8 hours ago, Fullbuster said: One thing is certain : without WDAS 2017 will be a terrible year for animation Only Coco could surprise Tell me about it. I'll have to wait for a trailer on Coco and hope that The Book of Life hasn't stolen a lot of its thunder for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) My ranking of 2017 award potential 1 Coco 2 The Thousand Miles 3 Lego Batman 4 Lego Ninjago 5 The Star 6 My Little Pony 7 Despicable Me 3 8 Smurfs: The Lost Village 9 Captain Underpants 10 Ferdinand 11 Blazing Samurai 12 The Boss Baby 13 Cars 3 14 Animal Crackers 15 Emoji Movie Edited November 18, 2016 by tribefan695 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I guess Smurfs could interest me next year given it's apparently a CGI movie and not a movie in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan7 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 If this included anime, there would be no US animated anything on top in those lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, DMan7 said: If this included anime, there would be no US animated anything on top in those lists. I love animes but no, WDAS would still be the king 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, DMan7 said: If this included anime, there would be no US animated anything on top in those lists. I think the director of Toy Story 3 deserves at least a little consideration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan7 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Fullbuster said: I love animes but no, WDAS would still be the king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, DMan7 said: Totally yes! Just look at Moana, such a beauty, such perfection, so beautiful background and animation. Our Japanese are still pretty far from being able to do this, even if they can create deeper and more psychologically twisted plots, that's not what Iseek from animation anyway ^^ WDAS is the king, that is undeniable, like the laws of physics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan7 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: Totally yes! Just look at Moana, such a beauty, such perfection, so beautiful background and animation. Our Japanese are still pretty far from being able to do this, even if they can create deeper and more psychologically twisted plots, that's not what Iseek from animation anyway ^^ WDAS is the king, that is undeniable, like the laws of physics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 minute ago, DMan7 said: OK, I win then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan7 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Fullbuster said: OK, I win then x 1 MILLION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 15 hours ago, Fullbuster said: Totally yes! Just look at Moana, such a beauty, such perfection, so beautiful background and animation. Our Japanese are still pretty far from being able to do this, even if they can create deeper and more psychologically twisted plots, that's not what Iseek from animation anyway ^^ WDAS is the king, that is undeniable, like the laws of physics I'll take the beauty and vibrancy of an anime like Your Name or a Ghibli movie over another CGI animation. They all look the same these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said: I'll take the beauty and vibrancy of an anime like Your Name or a Ghibli movie over another CGI animation. They all look the same these days. You're blinded because you're anti-CGI. Look, I always loved traditional animation and I was skeptical of CGI (apart from Toy Story) for a very long time but CGI evolved so much that I changed my mind, they do incredible things now. Your Name has a lot of charms and poetry, that's why I want to see it, but like you say it's pretty basic given it looks similar to all other Japanese animated movies, it's far from innovative when it comes to beauty, it's in the norm. On the other hand Moana is incredibly beautiful and superior to everything else when it comes to details and beauty : the ocean is so incredible for example, it's a style that you cannot mix up with something else, Zootopia had also amazing modelisation, the fur was particularly impressive. As I said, you're just blinded. I love both Japanimation and WDAS movies but there is no comparison here : WDAS movies are on another level, far more ambitious. Using Your Name as an example after telling CGI movies all look the same (that is completely false, obviously) is really a bad move my dear. Moana and Zootopia all have their particular style, look very different despite being from the same studio. And there is no similarities between Moana and Minions or between Zootopia and Ice Age. You can easily see which one is superior, which one has a particular style. Edited November 19, 2016 by Fullbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Fullbuster said: You're blinded because you're anti-CGI. Look, I always loved traditional animation and I was skeptical of CGI (apart from Toy Story) for a very long time but CGI evolved so much that I changed my mind, they do incredible things now. Your Name has a lot of charms and poetry, that's why I want to see it, but like you say it's pretty basic given it looks similar to all other Japanese animated movies, it's far from innovative when it comes to beauty, it's in the norm. On the other hand Moana is incredibly beautiful and superior to everything else when it comes to details and beauty : the ocean is so incredible for example, it's a style that you cannot mix up with something else, Zootopia had also amazing modelisation, the fur was particularly impressive. As I said, you're just blinded. I love both Japanimation and WDAS movies but there is no comparison here : WDAS movies are on another level, far more ambitious. Using Your Name as an example after telling CGI movies all look the same (that is completely false, obviously) is really a bad move my dear. Moana and Zootopia all have their particular style, look very different despite being from the same studio. And there is no similarities between Moana and Minions or between Zootopia and Ice Age. You can easily see which one is superior, which one has a particular style. Sorry, I'm anti-CGI? I guess that's why I enjoyed Zootopia, Trolls, Kung Fu Panda 3 and Secret Life of Pets this year, and saw each of them multiple times. I believe that yes, a CGI film can look good, it can be vibrant, but it can't compare to the beauty of hand drawn animation in either the East or the West. It looks manufactured whereas traditional animation and Stop Motion have a magic to them that cannot be surpassed. And try watching Your Name bent dismissing the quality of its animation, it allows for a balanced argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 1 hour ago, SchumacherFTW said: Sorry, I'm anti-CGI? I guess that's why I enjoyed Zootopia, Trolls, Kung Fu Panda 3 and Secret Life of Pets this year, and saw each of them multiple times. I believe that yes, a CGI film can look good, it can be vibrant, but it can't compare to the beauty of hand drawn animation in either the East or the West. It looks manufactured whereas traditional animation and Stop Motion have a magic to them that cannot be surpassed. And try watching Your Name bent dismissing the quality of its animation, it allows for a balanced argument. There is the same kind of magic, poetry in Frozen and Tangled than in Pocahontas for example. CGI movies evolved, they seem more authentic and less computerized than before. Zootopia seemed particularly authentic and credible, it never seemed manufactured to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialFairyIX Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 Zootopia and Moana look exceptionally beautiful and are on equal footing with some of the best 2D animated features of all time in my opinion in terms of technicalities. The lighting, the expressions, the action sequences, the reactions, etc. Everything is so meticulously etched onto the screen that you can't help but revere at the simple grandeur, beauty, and expression of art. On the other hand, Your Name just oozes beauty and expression in a way CGI cannot. There's a connection, warmth, and inviting trait that CGI has yet to capture. However, if Disney perfects the 2D/3D hybrid animation we saw in Paper Man, I can say we've reached yet another pinnacle in animation. I still remember all those rumors back when we thought Moana was going to be the 2D/3D hybrid princess film. Hopefully Gigantic, Frozen 2, or another of their films has that style of animation because it looks gorgeous! It's become harder and harder to differentiate between Pixar and WDAS these days considering how similar the animation is... It's not a bad thing, but it's much more appealing and powerful to have your own niche carved out than to look like a carbon copy of the next best thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialFairyIX Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 Rotten Tomato scores for Major Animated Features of 2016: 1. Zootopia - 98% and 8.1 average rating 2. Kubo and the Two Strings - 97% and 8.4 average rating 3. Moana - 97% and 8.0 average rating 4. Finding Dory - 94% and 7.7 average rating 5. Kung Fu Panda 3 - 87% and 6.8 average rating 6. Sausage Party - 83% and 6.8 average rating 7. Secret Life of Pets - 75% and 6.2 average rating 8. Trolls - 75% and 6.2 average rating 9. Storks - 63% and 6.0 average rating 10. Angry Birds - 43% and 5.0 average rating 11. Ice Age 5 - 13% and 4.0 average rating Average Percent: 75% (Fresh) Average Rating: 6.6 2016: Year of Animation indeed! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialFairyIX Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Animated Film: Domestic Gross: Worldwide Gross: Kung-Fu Panda 3 $143,528,619 $519,881,355 Zootopia $341,268,248 $1,023,772,429 Angry Birds $107,509,366 $349,779,543 Finding Dory $486,278,295 $1,026,933,304 The Secret Life of Pets $367,881,865 $874,324,567 Ice Age: Collision Course $64,063,008 $407,446,018 Sausage Party $97,670,358 $139,908,213 Kubo and the Two Strings $48,019,974 $69,491,837 Storks $71,245,243 $176,945,243 Trolls $135,785,969 $292,175,365 Moana $84,411,896 $101,589,690 Total: $1,947,662,841 $4,982,247,564 Average: $177,060,258 $452,931,596 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypoofs Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) What will be the best animated feature nominees this year? Finding Dory Secret life of Pets Zootopia Moana Trolls, sausage party, or kubo I feel like the top 4 I chose are inevitable Edited November 30, 2016 by cheesypoofs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
