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They're comparing summer to summer. It is interesting, we like to adjust yearly average to yearly average, but does adjusting one year's seasonal average to another yield more accurate results for that season?

It might, but since we don't know quarterly ticket prices before 2009, for consistency's sake, I just go with the yearly price. Even if you wanted to though, it will be less than $8.61 this year.

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This summer was hurt by two of the biggest frames having too many dead spots. Batman vs. Superman leaving Summer 2015 certainly didn't help matters. 

 

May

1 - Avengers 2

8 - Mad Max

15 - Pitch Perfect 2, Poltergeist

22 - San Andreas, Spy

29 - Inside Out, Aloha, Insidious Chapter 3 

 

June 

5 - Southpaw, Hot Pursuit, Paper Towns

12 - Jurassic World

19 - Ted 2, Dope

26 - Terminator Genysis, Max 

 

July 

3 - Minions, Vacation

10 - Ant-Man, Gallows

17 - Trainwreck, Pixels 

24 - Mission Impossible 5, Magic Mike XXL

31 - The Walk, Shaun the Sheep Movie, American Ultra 

 

August

7 - Pan, The Gift, Ricki and the Flash, Hitman: Agent 47 

14 - Straight Outta Compton, Fantastic Four  :lol: - it's going to bomb no matter where it goes, but moving it allows Pan to enter August 

21 - Sinister 2, Man From UNCLE, War Room

28 - Everest, No Escape, We Are Your Friends  :lol:

 

September

4 - Tomorrowland (why not? lol), Transporter Refueled, Walk in the Woods 

 

The schedules just need to start being more well-rounded. Not too bloated, but also not too light. I moved The Walk, Pan and Everest to late July/August, because I think the Fall 2015 slate is a bit bloated in terms of tentpole-esque films (Maze Runner 2, Everest, Walk, Martian, HT2, Pan, Goosebumps, Crimson Peak). Plus, Inglorious Basterds and District 9 have shown that critically-acclaimed adult-skewing tentpoles can do well in the late summer. 

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This summer was hurt by two of the biggest frames having too many dead spots. Batman vs. Superman leaving Summer 2015 certainly didn't help matters. 

 

May

1 - Avengers 2

8 - Mad Max

15 - Pitch Perfect 2, Poltergeist

22 - San Andreas, Spy

29 - Inside Out, Aloha, Insidious Chapter 3 

 

June 

5 - Southpaw, Hot Pursuit, Paper Towns

12 - Jurassic World

19 - Ted 2, Dope

26 - Terminator Genysis, Max 

 

July 

3 - Minions, Vacation

10 - Ant-Man, Gallows

17 - Trainwreck, Pixels 

24 - Mission Impossible 5, Magic Mike XXL

31 - The Walk, Shaun the Sheep Movie, American Ultra 

 

August

7 - Pan, The Gift, Ricki and the Flash, Hitman: Agent 47 

14 - Straight Outta Compton, Fantastic Four  :lol: - it's going to bomb no matter where it goes, but moving it allows Pan to enter August 

21 - Sinister 2, Man From UNCLE, War Room

28 - Everest, No Escape, We Are Your Friends  :lol:

 

September

4 - Tomorrowland (why not? lol), Transporter Refueled, Walk in the Woods 

 

The schedules just need to start being more well-rounded. Not too bloated, but also not too light. I moved The Walk, Pan and Everest to late July/August, because I think the Fall 2015 slate is a bit bloated in terms of tentpole-esque films (Maze Runner 2, Everest, Walk, Martian, HT2, Pan, Goosebumps, Crimson Peak). Plus, Inglorious Basterds and District 9 have shown that critically-acclaimed adult-skewing tentpoles can do well in the late summer. 

Labor Day weekend and the weekend before it will always be dead zones. One Hollywood trend that is certain never to change.

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Verfied my biggest summer ever statement and it looks like it's not. Felt like it was given the way the press is reporting on it.

 

Yeesh, actually it looks like it wasn't much better than the much-maligned 2014 summer.

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The yearly ticket price won't end up being that high.

I always find it funny when the "average" price is hilariously low.

I'm sure ticket prices can fluctuate by region, time, & day...

But unless I'm waking up early and hitting up the earliest matinee possible, I'm not paying anywhere near $8.60 a ticket.

Movie ticket prices have gotten ridiculously high, average realistic price in my area is about $11 or $13.50-$16.00 for IMAX/3D.

It's no coincidence that box-office records are being smashed left & right with $600 million being the new $400 million and $1 billion WW being hit with relative ease with these exuberantly high prices.

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Verfied my biggest summer ever statement and it looks like it's not. Felt like it was given the way the press is reporting on it.

 

Yeesh, actually it looks like it wasn't much better than the much-maligned 2014 summer.

 

There was a big gross inequality this summer. Only four movies grossed over 300M, only one will cross 200M, and eight 100M movies compared to one 300M movie, six 200M movies, and seven 100M movies in 2014.

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Hurt? Wasn't it one of the biggest summers ever?

In terms of unadjusted dollars, it's #3 - Labor Day weekend will likely take it to #2 just ahead of 2011. But it will still be around $300 million behind 2013.

And in terms of ticket sales, 2015 will only be ahead of 2014 as the second-lowest summer from 1998-present. The top 10 best-attended summers are: 2002, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2007, 1998, 2001, 2013, 2009, 2008.

From 2010-2015, only 2011 and 2013 surpassed the attendance of 2005, the lowest-attended summer of the entire 1998-2009 period. And comparing 2011 and 2013 to those 11 years, 2011 was only above 2005, while 2013 was only above 2005, 2000, 2006, 2008 and 2009.

Edited by TServo2049

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4 200m+ movies this summer compared to 7 last year. Seems it had the opposite issue in that there weren't as many mid-size hits. Disney and Uni are raking everything in while the rest of the studios are begging for scraps.

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the top 7 movies of the year sf go like uni/disney/uni/disney/uni/disney/uni so that's fun.

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HUGE HOLDS for MINIONS, ANTMAN and MI5!

Minions is the best hold of the weekend again, despite losing theatres. It also made more than DM2's labor day weekend! Is 338m or more possible?

 

1 Straight Outta Compton $9,000,000 -31% 3,094 -48 $2,909 $147,935,705 4 Universal
2 Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation $7,500,000 -8% 2,849 -246 $2,633 $180,736,692 6 Paramount
3 The Transporter Refueled $6,400,000 -- 3,434 -- $1,864 $6,400,000 1 EuropaCorp Films
4 No Escape (2015) $5,000,000 -38% 3,415 60 $1,464 $18,001,079 2 Weinstein Company
5 The Man from U.N.C.L.E. $3,600,000 -19% 2,102 -604 $1,713 $39,534,148 4 Warner Bros.
6 Inside Out (2015) $3,100,000 130% 2,967 2204 $1,045 $348,173,280 12 Disney
7 Ant-Man $2,800,000 -9% 1,527 -163 $1,834 $173,102,700 8 Disney
8 Minions $2,790,000 -3% 1,927 -49 $1,448 $328,661,460 9 Universal
9 Jurassic World $2,600,000 -14% 1,571 332 $1,655 $646,643,640 13 Universal
10 Vacation (2015) $1,000,000 -39% 1,045 -510 $957 $56,507,064 6 Warner Bros. / New Line
11 We Are Your Friends $620,000 -65% 2,333 0 $266 $3,140,318 2 Warner Bros.
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I always find it funny when the "average" price is hilariously low.

I'm sure ticket prices can fluctuate by region, time, & day...

But unless I'm waking up early and hitting up the earliest matinee possible, I'm not paying anywhere near $8.60 a ticket.

Movie ticket prices have gotten ridiculously high, average realistic price in my area is about $11 or $13.50-$16.00 for IMAX/3D.

It's no coincidence that box-office records are being smashed left & right with $600 million being the new $400 million and $1 billion WW being hit with relative ease with these exuberantly high prices.

Where do those NATO averages come from, anyway? Do they have too much weight in favor of child tickets, matinees, discount theaters? Or is there really that large a spread? I'm near San Francisco, California - I pay the same prices you do. (Are you in New York, as per your username, or somewhere else?)

And this discrepancy isn't new. Scott Mendelson of Forbes said that when he saw Batman on opening weekend, tickets were $3 - the 1989 average was $3.97. And there was some MTV coverage of Batman Returns where Cindy Crawford said there would be "more bang for your seven bucks" - the 1992 average was only $4.15.

And I'm also looking at photos of ticket stubs people have put online. For example, this is someone from New York City: https://jasonvorhees.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/movie-ticket-stubs-1999-2011.jpg

1999:

Adult evening ticket to The Other Sister: $8.00

Adult evening ticket to Star Wars Episode I: $8.50

National average for 1999: $5.08

2000:

Adult evening ticket to Deuce Bigalow:

$8.75

Adult evening ticket to The Green Mile: $8.50

Adult (I assume evening) ticket to Scream 3: $9.50(!)

Adult evening ticket to Coyote Ugly: $8.75

National average for 2000: $5.39

2001:

Adult evening for Memento: $10.00(!!)

Adult evening for The Others: $9.00

Adult evening for From Hell: $9.75

Adult evening for Monsters Inc.: $9.00

Adult evening for Vanilla Sky: $9.00

Various adult matinees: $5.75

National average for 2001: $5.66

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