RED SPARROW | 03.02.18 | Fox | Jennifer Lawrence

[Valonqar]

JLaw knows what she's doing. It'll all pay off in a long run. She's making a transition to adult roles. Can't play teens forever and she didn't take that route anyway (her roles in DOR movies were for older actresses). Leo did the same thing after Titanic and look at him now. 

 

Also, as far as her worst movie goes, Apocalypse for a landslide. Boy is that movie bad! 

 

@Alli Rebecca was in a different type of a spy movie (Rogue Nation) that's really a spy fantasy. Red Sparrow aims at realism from what I could see, no OTT action and such stuff.

Edited February 28, 2018 by Valonqar

[ecstasy]

28 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

JLaw knows what she's doing. It'll all pay off in a long run. She's making a transition to adult roles. Can't play teens forever and she didn't take that route anyway (her roles in DOR movies were for older actresses). Leo did the same thing after Titanic and look at him now. 

 

Also, as far as her worst movie goes, Apocalypse for a landslide. Boy is that movie bad! 

 

@Alli Rebecca was in a different type of a spy movie (Rogue Nation) that's really a spy fantasy. Red Sparrow aims at realism from what I could see, no OTT action and such stuff.

Jennifer has been doing adult movies for years. This is not a transition period from teen to adult.  She won an Oscar in an adult role and had adult roles after like  the mop lady.

[StevenG]

1 hour ago, The Futurist said:

Most female critics are hating this.

Which gives a you a good representation about where feminism is at in 2018 : 

rampant stupidity.

Wait...were female critics automatically supposed to love this film?

What is exactly stupid about being a woman and not liking Red Sparrow? And what does feminism have to do with all of it?

[Harley]

The commercials and trailers didn't sell me the movie but some of the comments I've read from people (who claimed to have seen it) have got me interested in seeing it. 

[TombRaider]

1 hour ago, ecstasy said:

Jennifer has been doing adult movies for years. This is not a transition period from teen to adult.  She won an Oscar in an adult role and had adult roles after like  the mop lady.

right? literally the last time she played a teen was The hunger games, lol

 

And she doent know what she is doing considering she has admitted she was sad about mother!'s failure at the box office for a couple days

[XO21]

32 minutes ago, TombRaider said:

 

 

And she doent know what she is doing considering she has admitted she was sad about mother!'s failure at the box office for a couple days

th dedication to track her interviews.

[TombRaider]

9 minutes ago, XO21 said:

th dedication to track her interviews.

dedication? i read that on twitter

[XO21]

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On the high-end of ranges, tracking services believe Red Sparrow could go to $20M-$24M, and Death Wish to potentially $20M, but, again, Black Panther‘s big footing in the marketplace coupled with each pic’s qualities weigh down on these ambitions.

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[Avatree]

2 hours ago, ecstasy said:

Jennifer has been doing adult movies for years. 

! where can I find these? icloud?

 

[Jeriosnal]

3 hours ago, Valonqar said:

JLaw knows what she's doing. It'll all pay off in a long run. She's making a transition to adult roles. Can't play teens forever and she didn't take that route anyway (her roles in DOR movies were for older actresses). Leo did the same thing after Titanic and look at him now. 

 

 

Working with Woody Allen, Randall Wallace, and Danny Boyle resulted in three movies with negative reviews, but is hardly as poor as Lawrence's 2014-2018, which is like if Leo made 6-7 movies as bad as The Man in the Iron Mask between Titanic and Gangs of New York.  

[Rebeccas]

3 hours ago, ecstasy said:

Jennifer has been doing adult movies for years. This is not a transition period from teen to adult.  She won an Oscar in an adult role and had adult roles after like  the mop lady.

Yeah if anything she's been playing too old for her age in DOR's movies.

[ecstasy]

32 minutes ago, Rebeccas said:

Yeah if anything she's been playing too old for her age in DOR's movies.

Yes. Was that one with Christian Bale and Amy Adams DOR too? 

[Rebeccas]

28 minutes ago, ecstasy said:

Yes. Was that one with Christian Bale and Amy Adams DOR too? 

Yup, she's done silver linings playbook, American hustle and joy with DOR.

[XO21]

She had two underperformers and two flops which are mother! and Red Sparrow (being realistic here, with $70m budget ain’t go anywhere near a profit). I don’t count Apocalypse.

 

She’s 27 and received so many accolades (with 4 oscar nominations in her bag) and her next streak of movies are all indies, she gonna be alright lmao.

Edited February 28, 2018 by XO21

[ecstasy]

3 minutes ago, Rebeccas said:

Yup, she's done silver linings playbook, American hustle and joy with DOR.

American Hustle! Couldn't remember the name and didn't have time to look it up.  Yeah she won the Oscar for SLP.  I thought she was even more out of place in AH than Joy (even though she was playing a much more mature character).

[Jake Gittes]

1 hour ago, Jeriosnal said:

Working with Woody Allen, Randall Wallace, and Danny Boyle resulted in three movies with negative reviews, but is hardly as poor as Lawrence's 2014-2018, which is like if Leo made 6-7 movies as bad as The Man in the Iron Mask between Titanic and Gangs of New York.  

Days of Future Past was solid, Serena was shot way back in mid-2012, and mother! is better than everything Leo did in 1998-2001 combined (and even if you hate it, her commitment to that performance is self-evident, which should matter to the Hollywood execs and filmmakers who cast movies). The final two THG movies were successful and I don't really see them being widely derided. That just leaves Joy, Apocalypse, and Passengers, one of which got her another Oscar nod, and the other two made money and will hardly do her any harm.

 

In other words, it is what a career looks like. With its ups and downs. She is not in 2013 anymore, and she never could have been. 

[dudalb]

And the publicity people for "Red Sparrow" are doing high fives over the latest White House revelations.putting Russian Espionage right on the front page...

[dudalb]

24 minutes ago, XO21 said:

She had two underperformers and two flops which are mother! and Red Sparrow (being realistic here, with $70m budget ain’t go anywhere near a profit). I don’t count Apocalypse.

 

She’s 27 and received so many accolades (with 4 oscar nominations in her bag) and her next streak of movies are all indies, she gonna be alright lmao.

She has played her cards incredibly well. Her franchise roles made her rich, she already has a Best Actress Oscar, and she can alteranate lucrative crowd pleasing franchise roles with indie films which have the critics eating out of their hands.

She has enough in the bank so she can only do roles she wants to do.

People who badmouth her and talk about her being washed up don't know what the hell they are talking about, frankly.

[Jeriosnal]

5 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

Days of Future Past was solid, Serena was shot way back in mid-2012, and mother! is better than everything Leo did in 1998-2001 combined (and even if you hate it, her commitment to that performance is self-evident, which should matter to the Hollywood execs and filmmakers who cast movies). The final two THG movies were successful and I don't really see them being widely derided. That just leaves Joy, Apocalypse, and Passengers, one of which got her another Oscar nod, and the other two made money and will hardly do her any harm.

 

In other words, it is what a career looks like. With its ups and downs. She is not in 2013 anymore, and she never could have been. 

I'd argue that the film is worse than every movie Leo's ever done, including Critters 3.  

[Barnack]

3 minutes ago, dudalb said:

And the publicity people for "Red Sparrow" are doing high fives over the latest White House revelations.putting Russian Espionage right on the front page...

Maybe not (seem to have really wanted it and had clear intention) but maybe Francis Lawrence will have some regret to not have made the movie more about that, like the books, in 2013/14/15 it was maybe something of interest for a studio, but the timing would have been nice.

 

1 hour ago, Jeriosnal said:

but is hardly as poor as Lawrence's 2014-2018

You mean 2015-2018 I imagine ?, she still made 1.5b at the box office in 2014 with movies with a 90% and 66% RT scores.

 

10 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

She is not in 2013 anymore, and she never could have been. 

True it was probably an unsustainable level:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160204123124/http://theharrispoll.com/health-and-life/Tom-Hanks-Favorite-Movie-Star.html