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4 minutes ago, Heat Vision said:

Shin Godzilla was terrifying though. As Godzilla should be. 

Eh Godzilla was always meant to be a tragic figure, and Ishiro Honda himself took the character to more heroic places as time went on.

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If Godzilla 2014 had a good script I'm confident it would be really well regarded. I thought Edwards did an incredible job with they movie from a visual standpoint. 

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6 hours ago, NoobSaibot said:

 

I wouldn't say that Toho are best known for hiding Godzilla, but the films always had more or at least equal focus on human characters compared to the monsters.

 

The problem with Edwards's and co.'s execution of the pacing was that they tried to pull that off in a two hour film. Unless we're talking about Shin Godzilla, where there are quality characters and an interwoven backstory to explore, that's a poor decision to make. The pacing has to be better in Godzilla 2 and Godzilla vs. Kong, or the negative reception will come back to haunt their box office draws.

 

Depends on the Godzilla movie. And just about every Godzilla movie was about the humans as the focus, and the monsters weren't really so much the "star" of the films.

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12 hours ago, Kevin Bacon said:

If Godzilla 2014 had a good script I'm confident it would be really well regarded. I thought Edwards did an incredible job with they movie from a visual standpoint. 

 

Totally agree. Godzilla was a beautifully shot movie w/great action, great sense of epic scale, good cast (Aaron Taylor-Johnson notwithstanding, obviously) and a well executed vision of Godzilla itself. Its biggest problem (besides failing the Jaws approach of keeping the main attraction hidden, which worked in Jaws because you absolutely felt the emergency and the presence of the shark in every scene, but you didn't feel Godzilla's presence here) was that the script focused too much on the uninteresting humans. If they made Bryan Cranston the main focus of the story, nobody would've complained. I mean, they still would've, all the other characters, well acted as most may have been, were still pretty dull, but the center piece of the film would've been captivating. Cranston had BY FAR the most interesting human character, and that's not just because he's awesome, but because there was something to him that you just couldn't help but root for. I get that you don't really want your action hero as a middle aged man (though, when he's Bryan Cranston, why the fuck not?), but still, White Soldier Dude was beyond boring.

 

If the Gareth Edwards/Max Borenstein duo knew how to properly execute human characters (Edwards can still do some decent things if Rogue One is proof; Borenstein definitely let David Hack Goyer's "every human is a robot" virus get to him if both Godzilla and Skull Island are indication, on the other hand) and they made the screenplay a lot stronger, Godzilla would've been absolutely terrific. It was let down by (mostly) boring characters, and the one good character they had was killed off in the 1st act. Just poor decisions after poor decisions. I still think the movie gets away w/it due to making the main attraction great (WHENEVER HE WAS ON SCREEN, THAT IS), but yeah, it was waaayyyy too problematic.

 

Shame. Those trailers are incredible.

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On 5/31/2017 at 10:38 AM, Cookson said:

Which is unwarranted.

Unwarranted how? He's not that good. 

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First casting announcement has arrived from Hollywood Reporter. Zhang Ziyi has been picked for a recurring role. Her first appearance will be in Godzilla: King of the Monsters, and she is also slated to appear in Godzilla vs. Kong.

 

Zhang Ziyi Joins Kyle Chandler in 'Godzilla: King of the Monsters'

 

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The interesting thing is that Kaiju films are not that big at the box office in Japan anymore. They have become like Westerns in the US...everybody is familiar with the genre and it's conventions, but they don't buy tickets for them in large numbers anymore.

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On ‎5‎/‎31‎/‎2017 at 3:14 PM, Heat Vision said:

Shin Godzilla was terrifying though. As Godzilla should be. 

Ishiro Honda, after he retired, admitted he hated a lot of the later Godzilla movies,because Godzilla became silly,and the movies became kiddie shows.

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This will be a juggernaut. Mark my words.

 

Not calling 200M OW or anything like that, but...... 150+ OW/350-370M DOM/1.05-1.1B WW seems like a good guess as of now. I know some people are thinking I'm overpredicting, but.... it's fucking Godzilla Vs. King Kong.

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1 minute ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

This will be a juggernaut. Mark my words.

 

Not calling 200M OW or anything like that, but...... 150+ OW/350-370M DOM/1.05-1.1B WW seems like a good guess as of now. I know some people are thinking I'm overpredicting, but.... it's fucking Godzilla Vs. King Kong.

You are overpredicitng. The idea of Godzilla vs Kong does not give everybody orgasms.

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1 hour ago, dudalb said:

The interesting thing is that Kaiju films are not that big at the box office in Japan anymore. They have become like Westerns in the US...everybody is familiar with the genre and it's conventions, but they don't buy tickets for them in large numbers anymore.

 

Shin Godzilla was an absolute beast at the Japan BO. It was the highest-grossing japanese live-action film there from 2016 and overall the 4th biggest Godzilla movie ever in admissions. So yeah, that statement is right for the Millenium Godzilla films up until Final Wars, but Shin was more than just a return to form.

 

3 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

This will be a juggernaut. Mark my words.

 

Not calling 200M OW or anything like that, but...... 150+ OW/350-370M DOM/1.05-1.1B WW seems like a good guess as of now. I know some people are thinking I'm overpredicting, but.... it's fucking Godzilla Vs. King Kong.

 

I so hope youre right. I mean, its kind of like Batman v Superman: Everyone knows these characters, the question remains how many casual moviegoers are going to give it a chance? Marketing has to be fantastic here to give it even a small chance at 1B Worldwide, which would be a totally ludicrous number for this type of movie.

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8 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

This will be a juggernaut. Mark my words.

 

Not calling 200M OW or anything like that, but...... 150+ OW/350-370M DOM/1.05-1.1B WW seems like a good guess as of now. I know some people are thinking I'm overpredicting, but.... it's fucking Godzilla Vs. King Kong.

I actually agree.

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1 minute ago, dudalb said:

You are overpredicitng. The idea of Godzilla vs Kong does not give everybody orgasms.

Well, just you wait until we get to 2020. Godzilla '14 opened to nearly 100M, and it didn't do better due to the mixed wom (this applies to legs in particular). Skull Island opened and performed smaller DOM, but had strong legs against ridiculous competition nonetheless (and topped Godzilla's 500M+ WW as well). Godzilla 2 will probably be around on par w/Skull Island's numbers. From that angle, I can see where you're coming from.

 

However, if you don't think the GA will feel orgasmic about a movie featuring Godzilla and King Kong fighting each other, then I don't know what to tell you. It's a movie that appeals to literally everyone, of all ages, genders and races. It's not just a clash of two giant skyscraper-tall monsters: it's the clash of two film icons that everybody knows and loves. It's a lot more Batman V Superman (in terms of hype/importance) than Freddy Vs. Jason or Alien Vs. Predator, which both appealed to far more niche audiences. And yeah, it's not the 1st Godzilla Vs. King Kong movie, but no one who isn't a hardcore diehard of either creature has seen that movie anyway.

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If the monster action in Godzilla 2 is awesome (and there's a lot more of it than in the first one), Godzilla vs Kong could be huge.

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As a Godzilla fan, I'm actually more hyped for the second film than Godzilla vs. Kong. Besides introducing a greater number of iconic kaiju, I feel King Ghidorah is a much more formidable foe to Godzilla than Kong. I'm sure they will be forced to use some PIS to keep the fight fair in G vs. K. The only thing that would make me more excited is if Godzilla and Kong are forced to team-up against a greater kaiju like Destoroyah. 

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2 hours ago, KP1025 said:

As a Godzilla fan, I'm actually more hyped for the second film than Godzilla vs. Kong. Besides introducing a greater number of iconic kaiju, I feel King Ghidorah is a much more formidable foe to Godzilla than Kong. I'm sure they will be forced to use some PIS to keep the fight fair in G vs. K. The only thing that would make me more excited is if Godzilla and Kong are forced to team-up against a greater kaiju like Destoroyah. 

 

I cant fucking wait for a good-looking CGI-Ghidorah. Has the potential to be the most impressive creature ever portrayed in a movie.

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