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14 hours ago, quigquag33 said:

This weekend's major releases:

  • The Republic [GR]
  • Tale of Tales
  • Minuscule - La Vallée des Fourmis Perdues [French-Belgian]
  • Σύμπτωμα (Symptom) [GR]
  • The End of the Tour
  • Dheepan [French]

Mockingjay Part 2  is opening next week after all... (I read it on Imdb but I thought it was wrong)

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5 hours ago, A District 3 Engineer said:

Mockingjay Part 2  is opening next week after all... (I read it on Imdb but I thought it was wrong)

 

I think they are quite accurate when it comes to Greece's release dates.

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Ranking Title Weekend admissions % Change from last weekend Total admissions Week
1 Spectre 85,174 -48.7% 335,428 2
2 The Peanuts Movie 8,058 -45.7% 47,418 3
3 Hotel Transylvania 2 7,048 -30.4% 146,847 5
4 Saul Fia (Son of Saul) [Hungarian] 4,723 -11.8% 12,944 2
5 Dheepan [French] 4,391 N/A 4,391 1
6 Minuscule - La Vallée des Fourmis Perdues [French-Belgian] 3,946 N/A 3,946 1
7 Tale of Tales 3,719 N/A 3,719 1
8 Ο Αστακός (O Astakos or The Lobster) [GR] 3,661 -28.6% 58,262 5
9 Love the Coopers 2,625 -29.2% 8,928 2
10 The Last Witch Hunter 2,283 -48.5% 51,173 4

 

Sources:

http://www.grandmagazine.gr/ngine/article/2804/to-box-office-tou-4imerou-19-22-11-15-o-bond-kai-kati-psila

http://flix.gr/news/box-office-0811-12112012.html

http://flix.gr/news/box-office-201114.html

 

There were several new releases this weekend, but I think no one really noticed. Together the new releases totaled less than 15,000 admissions, whereas 'Spectre' continued unabated in first place. That is probably where the good news ends though, since Spectre had a 49% drop. That may sound good (after all it had a similar drop in North America on its second weekend) but it was much bigger than the sophomore frame drop of 'Skyfall' (-37%). Furthermore, it was lower than the second weekend of 'Skyfall' in absolute terms (the latter made 104,531 admissions on its second weekend) and as a result, 'Spectre' is already behind 'Skyfall' in total admissions by about 14,000. With the finale of the 'Hunger Games' coming up next week (and 4 other new films), we should expect a reasonable drop. The 'Hunger Games' franchise hasn't been very popular in Greece but it has expanded significantly with each new entry and there is no reason to believe 'Mockingjay - Part 2' will buck the trend. Even if it did make just as much as its predecessor (45,608 admissions), it would still be in contention for the first spot next weekend, but I think that this is a feat it will easily achieve.

 

Back to this weekend's box office, there were no dramatic drops among holdovers. Most notably, 'Saul Fia' dropped only 12% but it's still got a long way to go before it's considered a commercial success. 'O Astakos' on the other hand has done fairly well and also posted a small drop this weekend. On the animation front, 'The Peanuts Movie' will probably fail to reach 100,000 admissions but the expectations for it were never really that high so I would say it has had a solid run so far. 'Hotel Transylvania 2' has also impressed. It has surpassed its predecessor's total (135,405 admissions) but I doubt it can make it into the Year's Top 10. Still nothing to complain about. As for the new releases, there is really nothing to say. Greek film 'The Republic' failed to attract viewers (it ranked 14th) but the others didn't do much better. 'Dheepan' was the most successful, since it was the highest-grossing new release despite the fact that it opened in only 8 theaters. It remains to be seen if it word-of-mouth helps it go noticeably higher.

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This weekend's major releases:

  • The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2
  • Bridge of Spies
  • 99 Homes
  • Chevalier [GR]
  • Asphalte [French]
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Weekend 26-29/11/2015

Ranking Title Weekend admissions % Change from last weekend Total admissions Week
1 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 43,444 N/A 43,444 1
2 Spectre 39,226 -53.9% 407,431 3
3 Bridge of Spies 33,544 N/A 33,544 1
4 Hotel Transylvania 2 6,252 -11.3% 153,813 6
5 The Peanuts Movie 5,939 -26.3% 54,516 4
6 Saul Fia (Son of Saul) [Hungarian] 3,421 -27.6% 18,047 3
7 Minuscule - La Vallée des Fourmis Perdues [French-Belgian] 3,214 -18.6% 7,787 2
8 99 Homes 3,085 N/A 3,085 1
9 Chevalier [GR] 2,517 N/A 2,517 1
10 Dheepan [French] 2,284 -48.0% 8,069 2

 

Source: http://www.flix.gr/news/box-office-26112015.html

 

This weekend had its fair share of interesting minutiae. The 'Hunger Games' finale failed to surpass its predecessor's opening weekend (45,608 admissions). It came close though and still managed to top the third weekend of 'Spectre' to finish in first place. Probably the lukewarm reception of the previous chapter had something to do with this decline. As I have expressed in other parts of the forum, I believe that word-of-mouth will spread faster for this film, since it is actually a good ending to the series. So we may even see it surpass the previous chapter in total admissions (128,094). 'Spectre' continued its precipitous decline with a 54% drop. Its third weekend was 33.5% lower than 'Skyfall's third weekend and, in terms of cumulative-to-date admissions, it has earned about 48,000 less than 'Skyfall'. It is doubtable whether it can reach 500,000 admissions although it will nevertheless come close. 'Bridge of Spies' on the other hand had as solid opening. With positive word-of-mouth, it could easily reach 100,000 admissions during, or even before, the holidays.

 

Animated holdovers fared well, dropping no more than 27%, while 'Saul Fia' had another impressive hold. 'Dheepan's drop was definitely disappointing, as was the opening weekend of Greek film 'Chevalier'. These films were playing in 9 and 8 theaters respectively, which may seem like a small number, but then again 'Saul Fia' is playing in the same number of theaters and has performed way better than either. Next week will likely see 'Mockingjay - Part 2' dominate the box office once more. 4 new films will be released.

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This weekend's releases:

  • Ουζερί Τσιτσάνης (Ouzeri Tsitsanis) [GR]
  • Carol
  • Mune, le Gardien de la Lune (French)
  • Καλή σου Νύχτα κυρ’ Αλέξανδρε... (Good night, Mr Alexander...) [GR]

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Weekend 3-6/12/2015

 

Ranking Title Weekend admissions % Change from last weekend Total admissions Week
1 Ουζερί Τσιτσάνης (Ouzeri Tsitsanis) [GR] 30,368 N/A 30,368 1
2 Bridge of Spies 23,929 -28.7% 77,836 2
3 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 20,077 -53.8% 87,827 2
4 Spectre 20,057 -48.9% 444,415 4
5 Carol 9,907 N/A 9,907 1
6 Mune, le Gardien de la Lune (French) 5,940 N/A 5,940 1
7 Hotel Transylvania 2 4,016 -35.8% 158,395 7
8 The Peanuts Movie 3,298 -44.5% 58,301 5
9 Saul Fia (Son of Saul) [Hungarian] 1,800 -47.4% 21,532 4
10 Minuscule - La Vallée des Fourmis Perdues [French-Belgian] 1,562 -51.4% 9,643 3

 

Sources: http://www.grandmagazine.gr/ngine/article/2822/to-ouzeri-tou-tsitsani-mazepse-arketous-8amones

http://www.flix.gr/news/box-office-03122015.html

http://www.flix.gr/news/box-office-03122015.html

http://flix.gr/news/greek-box-office-27-30-11-2014.html

 

Long-waited 'Ouzeri Tsitanis' scored a first-place debut but its very small per-theater average (266 admissions) was quite disappointing. It's a solid start, the biggest of the year for a Greek film, just ahead of January's 'Oi Gamproi tis Eftihias', which sold 30,019 admissions in second place, albeit from about half the theaters. [UPDATE:] As Joel M pointed out, two other major Greek productions will be released this month, which could seriously jeopardise the chances of 'Ouzeri Tsitsanis' to reach 100,000 admissions, but with the holidays coming soon let's hope that the market can accommodate more than one Greek film. Amond other newcomers, 'Carol' impressed with a 1,238 admissions per-theater average from only 8 theaters in the country. 'Mune', which opened at 47 theaters, earned significantly less.

 

As for holdovers, 'Mockingjay - Part 2' and 'Spectre' both saw substantial drops, while 'Bridge of Spies' finished in second place with the lowest drop among the Top 10. Don't be surprised if its final tally surpasses 'Mockingjay - Part 2' before the end of the year. 'Part 2' dropped less than 'Part 1' did in its second weekend and actually earned more in admissions, despite earning less than its predecessor on opening weekend. Therefore, 'Part 2' has still got a chance to outgross 'Part 1'. On the other hand, 'Spectre' definitely won't beat 'Skyfall' and the target of 500,000 admissions is also under serious doubt. Among other holdovers, the only noteworthy performance was recorded by 'Hotel Trasnylvania 2' which dropped 36%. It's got another one-and-a-half weeks before the release of 'The Good Dinosaur', which will anyway probably not be commercially successful. Beating 'Spongebob' (180,397 admissions) is thus not out of the question. 'Saul Fia', which probably spent its final weekend in the Top 10, has done very well for a Hungarian film in the Greek market - not to mention it's been playing in less than 10 theaters - and we might even see it approach the 30,000 admissions milestone by the end of its run.

 

Next weekend, there are 6 new releases, including Greek tragicomedy 'Η Κόρη του Ρέμπραντ' ('Rembrandt's Daughter'). It's essentially gonna be a fight between two Greek films for first place (for the first time this year, I guess) but let's not exclude 'Bridge of Spies' from the picture either.

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[UPDATE] Additional comment for the above weekend: 'Spectre' is now the highest-grossing film since 'Skyfall', and therefore the highest-grossing film of the last 3 years. Since 'Avatar', the 4 biggest films have been the following:

  • Skyfall: 579,565
  • Νήσος (Nisos) [GR]: 548,733
  • Αν… (An...) [GR]: 531,447
  • Spectre: 444,415 (and counting)
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7 hours ago, quigquag33 said:

Additional comment for the above weekend: 'Spectre' is now the highest-grossing film since 'Skyfall', and therefore the highest-grossing film of the last 3 years. Since 'Avatar', the 3 biggest films have been the following:

  • Skyfall: 579,565
  • Νήσος (Nisos) [GR]: 548,733
  • Spectre: 444,415 (and counting)

 

 

Αν… (An...) [GR] 531,447

 

Youu forgot about Papakaliatis "An..." which did pretty similar numbers to Skyfall in December '12. His new movie opening in 2 weeks is also gonna be huge. It's also the reason Star Wars got moved back a week so it won't go face to face with it.

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I added years 2003-5 to the first page, with data that are as complete as possible, and also updated certain admissions for more recent films in years 2007-9 and 2013-5. I have also updated my last two posts with some info that Joel M offered.

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58 minutes ago, quigquag33 said:

I added years 2003-5 to the first page, with data that are as complete as possible, and also updated certain admissions for more recent films in years 2007-9 and 2013-5. I have also updated my last two posts with some info that Joel M offered.

 

I'm saying this from memory alone I don't have any source to link but I remember a lot of articles at the time of 300 record breaking box office run mention it as the 7th movie to cross one million admissions. The first four are obvious (Titanic and the 3 local mega hits) but they were including Troy and Return of the King who allegedly barely went over 1.000.000 admissions. There's no way to verify that and really no way to find an absolute admissions number for any of the pre-300 mega hits. Box office reporting was much more scattered before 2007. No one was reporting movies after they left the weekly top 10, and all those played for weeks and weeks after they left the top 10. We can only have a range.

 

1. Titanic: definately over 1.800.000 admissions, but how much over I don't know.

2,3,4. The big local hits (Safe Sex, Politiki Kouzina, Loyfa): all of them between 1.300.000-1.400.000 but who is 2nd or 3d or 4th between them I have no idea.

5.300: 1.220.000 admissions, the only really solid number and the most recent one.

6,7. Troy, Return of the King: a little over or under 1.000.000 admissions

 

And then everything else.

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17 hours ago, Joel M said:

No one was reporting movies after they left the weekly top 10, and all those played for weeks and weeks after they left the top 10. We can only have a range.

 

2,3,4. The big local hits (Safe Sex, Politiki Kouzina, Loyfa): all of them between 1.300.000-1.400.000 but who is 2nd or 3d or 4th between them I have no idea.

 

What do you think abou this report (p. 32)? http://www.iom.gr/inst/iom/gallery/syxnothtes07.pdf

Obvioulsy some are estimates but I think the rest should be pretty accurate.

Note: Since it was published for the period July-September 2009, I suppose some of the films in the 2008-2009 season were still playing in cinemas at the time (e.g. Soula Ela Xana).

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On 10/12/2015, 5:37:37, quigquag33 said:

 

What do you think abou this report (p. 32)? http://www.iom.gr/inst/iom/gallery/syxnothtes07.pdf

Obvioulsy some are estimates but I think the rest should be pretty accurate.

Note: Since it was published for the period July-September 2009, I suppose some of the films in the 2008-2009 season were still playing in cinemas at the time (e.g. Soula Ela Xana).

 

No they are not accurate. 5 lepta akoma and Straight Story were higher before the left the weekly top10 than their final total in this report by all other sources. Also another (but different) number around 1.3-1.4 million fo Politiki Kouzina and Loufa, I don't see why it's more credible than other sources who have them at 1.3 mill or 1.35. The report is clearly focused on how and how many greek movies are getting made and how you can get them to an international audience. From the mistakes in more recent movies (for which we have more legit info) it seems the admissions data were collected randomly without even double checking, and it is understandable because they 're not the focus of the report.

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Weekend 10-13/12/2015

 

Ranking Title Weekend admissions % Change from last weekend Total admissions Week
1 Ουζερί Τσιτσάνης (Ouzeri Tsitsanis) [GR] 23,537 -22.5% 74,585 2
2 Bridge of Spies 17,970 -24.9% 105,889 3
3 Spectre 11,667 -41.8% 463,900 5
4 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 9,933 -50.5% 108,544 3
5 Carol 8,719 -12.0% 23,540 2
6 By the Sea 7,231 N/A 7,231 1
7 Mune, le Gardien de la Lune (French) 5,460 -8.1% 12,348 2
8 Goosebumps 4,036 N/A 4,036 1
9 Hotel Transylvania 2 3,636 -9.5% 162,314 8
10 Mustang 3,153 N/A 3,153 1

 

Source: http://www.grandmagazine.gr/ngine/article/2835/ena-ouzeri-kai-mia-gefura-kratisan-anoixto-to-box-office

 

I must admit last week's prediction for first place was wildly inaccurate. Panagiotopoulos's 'I Kori tou Rembrandt' (aka 'Rembrandt's Daughter') was a complete flop, earning just 1,597 admissions in 13th place. That was despite that fact that Panagiotopoulos is a renowned director, as are many members of the cast. I guess people thought 'Ouzeri Tsitsanis' is a much better choice, or they are saving their tickets for next weekend's 'Enas Allos Kosmos' (aka 'Worlds Apart'), which is Papakaliatis's sophomore directorial effort, after wildly successful 'An...' (aka 'What If...'). 'Ouzeri Tstitsanis' therefore held first place with an impressive second-weekend drop of 23%. Although it will reach 100,000 admissions for sure during the holidays, 'Enas Allos Kosmos' may slow it down. An equally impressive performance was put on by 'Bridge of Spies' which remained in second place and is days away from surpassing 'Mockingjay - Part 2'. The film's trajectory also brings to mind 'The Imitation Game', which opened last January to about 38,000 admissions on its way to a 185,000 admissions total. I think that, because of the holiday period, we can expect a similar total for the 'Bridge of Spies' too.

 

As for worldwide blockbusters 'Spectre' and 'Mockingjay - Part 2', they switched positions in the Top 10. Bond 24 is still chasing after that coveted 500,000 admission milestone while the 'Hunger Games' finale is only 4,000 admissions behind 'Part 1' in the same time in its run and is eyeing that film's 128,000 admission total. Both films will, more likely than not, miss these targets in my opinion. All family-genre holdovers had impressive drops of about 10%, which extends below the Top 10 to films like 'The Peanuts Movie', 'Inside Out' and 'Minions'.

 

All newcomers, however, were complete disasters with the biggest one scoring a bit over 7,000 admissions. 'Mustang' scored the biggest per-theater average, which was still at an underwhelming 450 admissions. There is nothing to worry about though, since 'Enas Allos Kosmos' is set to ignite the market next weekend. There are expectations of an opening above 100,000 admissions, building on the 98,790 admission opening of 'What if...'. Other releases for next Thursday include Pixar's second 2015 feature film 'The Good Dinsoaur', which frankly has grim prospects should it perform similarly to other European markets, French film 'La Tête Haute', Russian film 'Durak' and Italian film 'L' Arbitro'.

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Weekend 17-20/12/2015

 

Ranking Title Weekend admissions % Change from last weekend Total admissions Week
1 Ένας Άλλος Κόσμος (Enas Allos Kosmos; aka Worlds Apart) [GR] 95,343 N/A 95,343 1
2 The Good Dinosaur 27,160 N/A 27,160 1
3 Bridge of Spies 8,290 -53.9% 122,617 4
4 Ουζερί Τσιτσάνης (Ouzeri Tsitsanis) [GR] 7,473 -68.2% 95,751 3
5 Carol 5,799 -33.5% 32,287 3
6 Spectre 5,480 -53.0% 474,962 6
7 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 3,647 -63.3% 118,399 4
8 Goosebumps 1,659 -58.9% 7,691 2
9 Mune, le Gardien de la Lune (French) 1,453 -73.4% 14,271 3
10 Hotel Transylvania 2 1,427 -60.8% 163,972 9

 

Source: http://flix.gr/news/box-office-17122015.html

 

Records did not fall this weekend, but 'Worlds Apart' still had one of the biggest openings for a Greek film. It fell slightly short of Papakaliatis's directorial debut 'What If...', which opened to 98,790 admissions. There is however little in the way of 'Worlds Apart' in the weeks ahead, possibly up until the January 14, when 'Νοτιάς' ('Notias') opens. This bodes well for the film, which is aiming to be the first, and possibly only, of the year to reach 500,000 admissions. With the school holidays coming up, which in Greece last from December 23 to January 7, this is a particularly lucrative period at the box office. The other only opener that got into the Top 10 is 'The Good Dinosaur', Pixar's second 2015 film, which quite expectedly failed to lure the crowd. I apologise for not having a complete list of animated opening weekends but it's safe to say that this was below average. Among the 5 Hollywood animated films of the last 4 months, it only managed to earn more than 'The Peanuts Movie' (18,672 admissions) and was way behind the next biggest opening, 'Hotel Transylvania 2' (45,815 admissions). Here is a table with the openings of all Pixar films that opened from 2003 onwards:

 

             Pixar Opening Weekends

Inside Out 62,766
Ratatouille 62,000-65,000*
Up 57,008
Toy Story 3 56,358
Finding Nemo 46,000
Wall-E 41,787
Cars 2 38,970
The Incredibles 38,700
Cars 38,000-40,000*
The Good Dinosaur 27,160
Brave 21,040
Monsters University 19,138

 

*The tickets sold in Athens only (42,620 for 'Ratatouille' and 26,000 for 'Cars') were extrapolated to the nationwide figure seen above, based on the average nationwide-to-Athens ratio of the other films. (source: http://cine.gr/article.asp?topic=Box%20Office&page=16178)

 

One important thing to note is that 'The Good Dinosaur' is the only one of the above films that opened on the weekend before Christmas, which could mean a greater mulitple. My estimate is that the film can't go much further than 150,000 admissions and will probably earn far less though.

 

In holdover news, the market was obliterated, with only one film dropping less than 50%, 'Carol', which I see heading towards an impressive 50,000 admission total. Even if it misses that though, it's still a success since it's been playing in 9 theaters up to now and just expanded to 22. Holdovers will take another hit next weekend with the release of 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens'. Since many distributors only report box office figures after the end of the holidays, wait for a full analysis of this year's box office around that time.

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On 12/22/2015, 2:09:13, quigquag33 said:

Weekend 17-20/12/2015

 

Ranking Title Weekend admissions % Change from last weekend Total admissions Week
1 Ένας Άλλος Κόσμος (Enas Allos Kosmos; aka Worlds Apart) [GR] 95,343 N/A 95,343 1
2 The Good Dinosaur 27,160 N/A 27,160 1
3 Bridge of Spies 8,290 -53.9% 122,617 4
4 Ουζερί Τσιτσάνης (Ouzeri Tsitsanis) [GR] 7,473 -68.2% 95,751 3
5 Carol 5,799 -33.5% 32,287 3
6 Spectre 5,480 -53.0% 474,962 6
7 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 3,647 -63.3% 118,399 4
8 Goosebumps 1,659 -58.9% 7,691 2
9 Mune, le Gardien de la Lune (French) 1,453 -73.4% 14,271 3
10 Hotel Transylvania 2 1,427 -60.8% 163,972 9

 

Source: http://flix.gr/news/box-office-17122015.html

 

Records did not fall this weekend, but 'Worlds Apart' still had one of the biggest openings for a Greek film. It fell slightly short of Papakaliatis's directorial debut 'What If...', which opened to 98,790 admissions. There is however little in the way of 'Worlds Apart' in the weeks ahead, possibly up until the January 14, when 'Νοτιάς' ('Notias') opens. This bodes well for the film, which is aiming to be the first, and possibly only, of the year to reach 500,000 admissions. With the school holidays coming up, which in Greece last from December 23 to January 7, this is a particularly lucrative period at the box office. The other only opener that got into the Top 10 is 'The Good Dinosaur', Pixar's second 2015 film, which quite expectedly failed to lure the crowd. I apologise for not having a complete list of animated opening weekends but it's safe to say that this was below average. Among the 5 Hollywood animated films of the last 4 months, it only managed to earn more than 'The Peanuts Movie' (18,672 admissions) and was way behind the next biggest opening, 'Hotel Transylvania 2' (45,815 admissions). Here is a table with the openings of all Pixar films that opened from 2003 onwards:

 

             Pixar Opening Weekends

Inside Out 62,766
Ratatouille 62,000-65,000*
Up 57,008
Toy Story 3 56,358
Finding Nemo 46,000
Wall-E 41,787
Cars 2 38,970
The Incredibles 38,700
Cars 38,000-40,000*
The Good Dinosaur 27,160
Brave 21,040
Monsters University 19,138

 

*The tickets sold in Athens only (42,620 for 'Ratatouille' and 26,000 for 'Cars') were extrapolated to the nationwide figure seen above, based on the average nationwide-to-Athens ratio of the other films. (source: http://cine.gr/article.asp?topic=Box%20Office&page=16178)

 

One important thing to note is that 'The Good Dinosaur' is the only one of the above films that opened on the weekend before Christmas, which could mean a greater mulitple. My estimate is that the film can't go much further than 150,000 admissions and will probably earn far less though.

 

In holdover news, the market was obliterated, with only one film dropping less than 50%, 'Carol', which I see heading towards an impressive 50,000 admission total. Even if it misses that though, it's still a success since it's been playing in 9 theaters up to now and just expanded to 22. Holdovers will take another hit next weekend with the release of 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens'. Since many distributors only report box office figures after the end of the holidays, wait for a full analysis of this year's box office around that time.

@quigquag33 I see that the Greek market is more or less similar to the Romanian one in terms of admissions. How is it in USD (I'm guessing the ticket prices are way bigger than here)? How many adm are sold yearly?  

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30 minutes ago, James said:

@quigquag33 I see that the Greek market is more or less similar to the Romanian one in terms of admissions. How is it in USD (I'm guessing the ticket prices are way bigger than here)? How many adm are sold yearly?  

 

avg. ticket price translates to about 7$. The admissions have taken a nosedive in the last 5 years due to the economic situation., theatres even lowered ticket prices for the first time since I can remember to battle the huge drop.

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Fortunately the Romanian admissions continues to grow every year since '08 and the price of ticket as well, the avg. price is about 5$ if i'm not wrong.I hope Greece to recover, wonder how TFA will do in terms of admissions

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