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[That One Girl]

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Spread it like Christianity.

[aabattery]

1 minute ago, YourMother said:

Nope he's tied for number 3 with Ultron.

 

For posterity's sake, I saw this.

 

You stand on thin ice.

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[That One Girl]

[Dbot1800]

I see we're debating who's the tallest dwarf again. 

Edited May 10, 2017 by Dbot1800

[RandomCat]

2 hours ago, The Futurist said:

Why cool & hip people like to prentend that having a somewhat weak villain is ONLY Marvel thing ?

 

The villains in Indiana Jones were so fantastic, something named something doing something something : memorable !  

 

 

 

 

I will not have you disrespect Toht.

[RandomCat]

13 minutes ago, Dbot1800 said:

I see we're debating who's the tallest dwarf again. 

 

 

Pfft. Everyone knows it's Gimli.

[ZattMurdock]

Yet ANOTHER sign that Fox has reached some kind of deal over Fantastic Four (besides some spoilers in GotG Vol. 2) saw the light of the day today:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I_htkGJAZ4

 

Do you guys remember when Marvel used "gifted" to identify Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in Age of Ultron?

 

Marvel is producing this with Fox. Marvel holds the rights for X-Men characters. Or at least held. I have a very strong feeling that the Fantastic Four are coming for Phase 4. Would the X-Men be that far behind? 

[chrisman0606]

On 5/9/2017 at 9:13 PM, iJackSparrow said:

Yet ANOTHER sign that Fox has reached some kind of deal over Fantastic Four (besides some spoilers in GotG Vol. 2) saw the light of the day today:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I_htkGJAZ4

 

Do you guys remember when Marvel used "gifted" to identify Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in Age of Ultron?

 

Marvel is producing this with Fox. Marvel holds the rights for X-Men characters. Or at least held. I have a very strong feeling that the Fantastic Four are coming for Phase 4. Would the X-Men be that far behind? 

No way the X-Men are coming since they are profitable for Fox and especially with Deadpool being one especially, the same for Sony keeping the Spider-Man rights since he very profitable and one of the highest grossing franchise for them. Fantastic Four is a maybe, because Kinberg has said they will continue with a Fantastic Four sequel, and a Silver Surfer movie might come.

Edited May 23, 2017 by chrisman0606

[Barnack]

11 minutes ago, chrisman0606 said:

No way the X-Men are coming since they are profitable for Fox and especially with Deadpool being one especially, the same for Sony keeping the Spider-Man rights since he very profitable and one of the highest grossing franchise for them. Fantastic Four is a maybe, because Kinberg has said they will continue with a Fantastic Four sequel, and a Silver Surfer movie might cone.

 

Not so sure, everything has is price in a way, Star Wars, Pixar and other Disney acquisition could have probably been profitable without selling to them, different need for money, different ability to generate profit (making a situation that Disney can you give more than what you can realistically ever made with the franchise and still a good deal for Disney because they are better a monetizing franchise), make sale usually for almost anything.

 

I mean, there is rumor of Disney itself being bought by Apple (a bit of the same for some Sony divisions).

Edited May 10, 2017 by Barnack

[ZattMurdock]

20 minutes ago, chrisman0606 said:

No way the X-Men are coming since they are profitable for Fox and especially with Deadpool being one especially, the same for Sony keeping the Spider-Man rights since he very profitable and one of the highest grossing franchise for them. Fantastic Four is a maybe, because Kinberg has said they will continue with a Fantastic Four sequel, and a Silver Surfer movie might cone.

Fox is indeed in a very different situation than Sony. But there are some things to consider. I won't believe that an X-Men film is indeed happening until it is. And while I think that maybe F4 are back home, the X-Men could always work within the MCU similar to how Spider-Man: Homecoming works. I sincerely feel that Fox execs will be paying attention very closely to how Homecoming performs. I wouldn't take for granted the X-Men coming back, and I'm almost certain that the F4 already are. I don't care what Kinberg says btw. 

 

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The Watchers, Ego the Living Planet, Ryan openly congratulating GotG Vol. 2, the way that things a lot smoother between Marvel and Fox lead me to think that there's more than meets the eye here. 

 

[chrisman0606]

1 minute ago, iJackSparrow said:

Fox is indeed in a very different situation than Sony. But there are some things to consider. I won't believe that an X-Men film is indeed happening until it is. And while I think that maybe F4 are back home, the X-Men could always work within the MCU similar to how Spider-Man: Homecoming works. I sincerely feel that Fox execs will be paying attention very closely to how Homecoming performs. I wouldn't take for granted the X-Men coming back, and I'm almost certain that the F4 already are. I don't care what Kinberg says btw. 

 

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The Watchers, Ego the Living Planet, Ryan openly congratulating GotG Vol. 2, the way that things a lot smoother between Marvel and Fox lead me to think that there's more than meets the eye here. 

 

Well despite the Sony deal they still own the rights to Spider-Man evident by the fact they are making an animated Spider-Man Miles Morales movie and Venom and Silver Sable/Blackcat solo movies that are not set at all in the MCU, while Homecoming is in the MCU. For the Fox side sure they are not in Sony situation, and I'm glad they are getting better with Marvel, but still they want make their own movies, and I think Kinberg is damn serious to make another F4 property like from few months ago.

[chrisman0606]

Also Feige stated like 6 or 7 months ago that a Fox deal is impossible.

[ZattMurdock]

Just now, chrisman0606 said:

Well despite the Sony deal they still own the rights to Spider-Man evident by the fact they are making an animated Spider-Man Miles Morales movie and Venom and Silver Sable/Blackcat solo movies that are not set at all in the MCU, while Homecoming is in the MCU. For the Fox side sure they are not in Sony situation, and I'm glad they are getting better with Marvel, but still they want make their own movies, and I think Kinberg is damn serious to make another F4 property like from few months ago.

I doubt these  movies will ever happen. Where there's smoke there's fire, I don't think Bautista was making it up about Marvel reacquiring the rights on that podcast that it was posted the other day. He seemed pretty well informed by the whole situation plus stuff that wasn't flying on anyone's radar before. I wouldn't even be surprised that announcing Venon and Silver Sable / Black Cat was some sort of negotiation tactics to rush some kind of deal with Marvel. Let's see how this story develops some months from now. 

[ZattMurdock]

1 minute ago, chrisman0606 said:

Also Feige stated like 6 or 7 months ago that a Fox deal is impossible.

He said something like that about Spider-Man months before Spider-Man getting announced part of the MCU. And here we are. 

Edited May 10, 2017 by iJackSparrow

[Barnack]

7 minutes ago, iJackSparrow said:

I don't care what Kinberg says btw. 

 

 

I would think he is powerful, when Kinberg said to Fox make that Deadpool movie, it did happen (after year's of not happening)

 

He produced for 5.3 billion at the box office of movies (and credited writer on 3.5b), almost all at Fox.

[chrisman0606]

I think Sony would never give up the rights to Spider-Man by the fact his films are the highest grossing in the top ten list, which means the most popular franchise for them:

Sony Top Grossing Worldwide

Rank	Title	Year	Worldwide gross
1	Skyfall	2012	$1,108,561,013
2	Spider-Man 3	2007	$890,871,626
3	Spectre	2015	$880,674,609
4	Spider-Man	2002	$821,708,551
5	Spider-Man 2	2004	$783,766,341
6	2012	2009	$769,679,473
7	The Da Vinci Code	2006	$758,239,851
8	The Amazing Spider-Man	2012	$757,930,663
9	The Amazing Spider-Man 2	2014	$708,982,323
10	Hancock	2008	$624,386,746

Sony Top Grossing Domestically.

1	Spider-Man	2002	$403,706,375
2	Spider-Man 2	2004	$373,585,825
3	Spider-Man 3	2007	$336,530,303
4	Skyfall	2012	$304,360,277
5	The Amazing Spider-Man	2012	$262,030,663
6	Men in Black	1997	$250,690,539
7	Ghostbusters	1984	$229,242,989
8	Hancock	2008	$227,946,274
9	The Da Vinci Code	2006	$217,536,138
10	Terminator 2: Judgment Day	1991	$204,843,345

[ZattMurdock]

1 minute ago, Barnack said:

 

I would think he is powerful, when Kinberg said to Fox make that Deadpool movie, it did happen (after year's of not happening)

 

He produced for 5.3 billion at the box office of movies (and credited writer on 3.5b), almost all at Fox.

Nah. I've been in this game for a while to understand who is powerful and who is a producer trying to keep his job. Kinberg is the latter. 

[ZattMurdock]

Just now, chrisman0606 said:

I think Sony would never give up the rights to Spider-Man by the fact his films are the highest grossing in the top ten list, which means the most popular franchise for them:

Sony Top Grossing Worldwide

Rank	Title	Year	Worldwide gross
1	Skyfall	2012	$1,108,561,013
2	Spider-Man 3	2007	$890,871,626
3	Spectre	2015	$880,674,609
4	Spider-Man	2002	$821,708,551
5	Spider-Man 2	2004	$783,766,341
6	2012	2009	$769,679,473
7	The Da Vinci Code	2006	$758,239,851
8	The Amazing Spider-Man	2012	$757,930,663
9	The Amazing Spider-Man 2	2014	$708,982,323
10	Hancock	2008	$624,386,746

Sony Top Grossing Domestically.

1	Spider-Man	2002	$403,706,375
2	Spider-Man 2	2004	$373,585,825
3	Spider-Man 3	2007	$336,530,303
4	Skyfall	2012	$304,360,277
5	The Amazing Spider-Man	2012	$262,030,663
6	Men in Black	1997	$250,690,539
7	Ghostbusters	1984	$229,242,989
8	Hancock	2008	$227,946,274
9	The Da Vinci Code	2006	$217,536,138
10	Terminator 2: Judgment Day	1991	$204,843,345

And yet, they had to give up on 007. Sony is crumbling for years now. Other than Spider-Man, which is literally a Marvel Studios production that all they did was literally pay it for, they have nothing. They have Dark Tower and that's it. It's not about not giving it up. I think they are almost to the point they don't really have a say on giving it up or not. 

[chrisman0606]

For Fox Side, The X-Men films also do well:

 

Top grossing Fox Films domestically:

1	Avatar ‡	2009	$760,507,625
2	Titanic ‡ 2	1997	$658,672,302
3	Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace ‡1	1999	$474,544,677
4	Star Wars ‡	1977	$460,998,007
5	Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith 1	2005	$380,270,577
6	Deadpool	2016	$363,070,709
7	Star Wars: Episode II – Attack of the Clones 1	2002	$310,676,740
8	Return of the Jedi ‡ 1	1983	$309,306,177
9	Independence Day	1996	$306,169,268
10	The Empire Strikes Back ‡ 1	1980	$290,475,067
11	Home Alone	1990	$285,761,243
12	Night at the Museum	2006	$250,863,268
13	X-Men: The Last Stand	2006	$234,362,462
14	X-Men: Days of Future Past	2014	$233,921,534
15	Cast Away	2000	$233,632,142
16	Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel	2009	$219,614,612
17	Mrs. Doubtfire	1993	$219,195,243
18	Alvin and the Chipmunks	2007	$217,326,974
19	X2: X-Men United	2003	$214,949,694
20	Dawn of the Planet of the Apes	2014	$208,545,589

21 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs 2009 $196,573,705 22 Ice Age: The Meltdown 2006 $195,330,621 23 The Croods 2013 $187,168,425 24 The Day After Tomorrow 2004 $186,740,799 25 Mr. & Mrs. Smith 2005 $186,336,279

 Top Grossing Fox Films Worldwide:

1	Avatar ‡	2009	$2,787,965,087
2	Titanic ‡ 2	1997	$2,186,772,302
3	Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace ‡1	1999	$1,027,044,677
4	Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs	2009	$886,686,817
5	Ice Age: Continental Drift	2012	$877,244,782
6	Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith1	2005	$848,754,768
7	Independence Day	1996	$817,400,891
8	Deadpool	2016	$782,612,155
9	Star Wars ‡	1977	$775,398,007
10	X-Men: Days of Future Past	2014	$747,862,775
11	Dawn of the Planet of the Apes	2014	$710,644,566
12	Ice Age: The Meltdown ‡	2006	$660,940,780
13	Star Wars: Episode II – Attack of the Clones1	2002	$649,398,328
14	The Martian	2015	$630,161,890
15	How to Train Your Dragon 2	2014	$621,537,519
16	Life of Pi	2012	$609,016,565
17	The Croods	2013	$587,204,668
18	Night at the Museum	2006	$574,480,841
19	The Day After Tomorrow	2004	$544,272,402
20	The Empire Strikes Back ‡ 1	1980	$547,969,004
21	X-Men: Apocalypse	2016	$543,934,787
22	The Revenant	2015	$532,950,503
23	The Simpsons Movie	2007	$527,071,022
24	Kung Fu Panda 3	2016	$518,924,340
25	Rio 2	2014	$500,101,972