WittyUsername Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 All this talk about whether or not the MCU movies qualify as “real movies” is only making me more upset that Joker is as divisive as it is. That movie was probably the one shot DC had at having a movie that could truly set itself apart from the MCU in any meaningful way, but it looks like it just wasn’t able to escape the shadow of the superhero genre, despite not having superheroes of any kind in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, WittyUsername said: All this talk about whether or not the MCU movies qualify as “real movies” is only making me more upset that Joker is as divisive as it is. That movie was probably the one shot DC had at having a movie that could truly set itself apart from the MCU in any meaningful way, but it looks like it just wasn’t able to escape the shadow of the superhero genre, despite not having superheroes of any kind in it. They should've given it to an actually good writer. Either way, I think it's still gunning for Oscar noms. I even think it has a good chance at winning Screenplay (even if it is the worst part of the movie). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: They should've given it to an actually good writer. Either way, I think it's still gunning for Oscar noms. I even think it has a good chance at winning Screenplay (even if it is the worst part of the movie). Over Zaillian for Irishman? I'd... be very surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Menor the Destroyer Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: I really like a few of the MCU films and all (love GOTG 2 and really like Black Panther, The Avengers, Cap America 1, and Dr Strange) but who cares honestly. People can have their opinions. And honestly I find it odd that Scorcese is getting more complaints than Inarittu who literally called them cultural genocide. Yeah honestly it's not something I'm particularly outraged about even if I don't like how he phrased his opinion. In the end what he says doesn't affect my enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, TMP said: Over Zaillian for Irishman? I'd... be very surprised. Taika’s gonna win that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 minute ago, CoolioD1 said: Taika’s gonna win that. ehhh... we'll see how the Academy reacts. Feels divisive rn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WittyUsername Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 To be frank, whenever someone says that the MCU movies aren’t “real movies”, I actually do see where they’re coming from. The MCU feels like a very “corporate” entity. Before anyone jumps on me, yes, I’m aware that filmmaking is a business, which means that every movie is basically a corporate product, but there is still a certain factory-like vibe to the MCU. It doesn’t mean the movies are bad, but it’s pretty clear that they’re more producer driven than they are director driven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadShot Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, WittyUsername said: To be frank, whenever someone says that the MCU movies aren’t “real movies”, I actually do see where they’re coming from. The MCU feels like a very “corporate” entity. Before anyone jumps on me, yes, I’m aware that filmmaking is a business, which means that every movie is basically a corporate product, but there is still a certain factory-like vibe to the MCU. It doesn’t mean the movies are bad, but it’s pretty clear that they’re more producer driven than they are director driven. I feel the same way about recycled mobster movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadShot Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, TMP said: Too bad he's not even close to the director that Scorsese is though Yeah he's far above Scorsese lol. Titanic alone demolishes his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 This is what we (regular folks, basically the industry since it only received a tech nom at the Oscars) get for collectively ignoring Silence, everyone. Marty when that movie was completely left out in the cold: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lorddemaxus Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, HeadShot said: Yeah he's far above Scorsese lol. Titanic alone demolishes his entire career. Seems like you're the guy to go to for shitty opinions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Chad DC Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zatt was right said: The devil has spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, RealLyre said: what annoys me is him implying that his word is what defines real cinema or not. It would piss me off if Marvel said the same thing. Plenty of movies nothing like MCU movies in the same genre have been awesome. He's a great filmmaker no doubt. However he is not god and comes off as a giant pompous doosh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 #CancelMarty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexdube Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, TMP said: Too bad he's not even close to the director that Scorsese is though I wasn't actually taking shots at Scorsese by the way, he's one of my favorite directors. Not even close? They are not even playing the same game. Scorsese could never direct a movie like Terminator 2 and James Cameron could never direct something like Taxi Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menor the Destroyer Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Scorsese's defenders are honestly acting much worse than him. So many comments basically implying people who like the MCU are stupid and blasting them for daring to criticize "the God himself". That's what annoys me more than his own remarks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) He's definitely made multiple films worse than the genre is shitting on. Most of his films are in a different league although I'd say IW,WW, BB, Dark Night, EG, SM2 are all incredibly good in general. Edited October 4, 2019 by cdsacken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...