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[Jonwo]

1 hour ago, lorddemaxus said:

Almost every studio cofinances pretty much all their movies. The only studio that doesn't is Disney. WB should still be getting a good profit out of this and it also means they can maintain a pretty good relationship with the co-financiers. And awards campaigns cost 30 mil max.

It's a double edged sword, had it not well they'd have been on the hook for bigger potential losses, it's the same as Lionsgate selling the OS distribution rights to their films, they reduce their risk but get less profit if a film is a huge hit. 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2019 by Jonwo

[The Futurist]

Todd Phillips is such a brave and visionary artist.

 

The VCU is upon us.

 

V doesn't stand for villain by the way.

[WittyUsername]

This news about WB developing a sequel to Joker is extremely disappointing. Why can’t anything be allowed to stand on its own anymore? It’s only a matter of time before we get a Batman 4. 

[Barnack]

2 hours ago, HeadShot said:

They co-financed the movie (what a dumb decision) and will be getting only 50% of the earnings. Todd Phillips getting 100 million - so that leaves even less money for WB. I read that they'll finance all of the awards campaigning as well - which will be costly.  

Source ?

 

1 hour ago, HeadShot said:

I know how co-financing works. 50% is ridiculous to give up.

Well no, it depend it mean what for WB for their complete slate risk sharing and the term of the deal, co-financier do not usually get a deal has good has the distributor on a movie they finance.

[Barnack]

43 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

It's a double edged sword, had it not well they'd have been on the hook for bigger potential losses, it's the same as Lionsgate selling the OS distribution rights to their films, they reduce their risk but get less profit if a film is a huge hit. 

Not sure they have much of a choice too.

 

But yes media has a big fetish on low budget, lower risk, lower reward (see the coverage of Blumhouse) vs Netflix type of model, has if it was automatically better and tend to never present the budget by how much the movie will actually end up costing if it work.

[Chucky]

36 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

This news about WB developing a sequel to Joker is extremely disappointing. Why can’t anything be allowed to stand on its own anymore? It’s only a matter of time before we get a Batman 4. 

If you were in charge of a multi billion dollar company would you let Joker stand on it own? Or maximise profits?

[Napoleon]

Some of the greatest movies of all time are sequels, like Back to the Future 2, The Dark Knight, Terminator 2 - Judgment Day, Batman v Superman, The Godfather 2.

Edited November 20, 2019 by Napoleon

[Chucky]

49 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

It's a double edged sword, had it not well they'd have been on the hook for bigger potential losses, it's the same as Lionsgate selling the OS distribution rights to their films, they reduce their risk but get less profit if a film is a huge hit. 

 

 

But surely if you know your film features the most iconic villain in the biggest genre in cinema right now and it's going to be made for a tiny budget of 50m you'd think they would take the risk and finance the whole movie? I don't know how financing works but maybe they have to co-finance all their films to maintain a healthy relationship with other companies? If they just pick and choose every film maybe it would rub the other suppliers the wrong way knowing how much profit they are missing out on.

[HeadShot]

44 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

This news about WB developing a sequel to Joker is extremely disappointing. Why can’t anything be allowed to stand on its own anymore? It’s only a matter of time before we get a Batman 4. 

you're surprised that a major studio is developing a sequel for a movie that profited more than infinity war?  LMAO.

 

Edited November 20, 2019 by HeadShot

[Chucky]

1 minute ago, Napoleon said:

Some of the greatest movies of all time are sequels, like Back to the Future 2, The Dark Knight, Terminator 2 - Judgment Day, Batman v Superman, The Godfather 2.

Oh come on mate, we all know Godfather 2 should not be on that list.

[WittyUsername]

https://deadline.com/2019/11/joker-sequel-no-discussions-yet-todd-phillips-no-dc-origin-villian-films-planned-1202790774/amp/#click=https://t.co/vwhBEJkUVL

 

I don’t know who to believe at this point.

[Barnack]

5 minutes ago, Chucky said:

But surely if you know your film features the most iconic villain in the biggest genre in cinema right now and it's going to be made for a tiny budget of 50m you'd think they would take the risk and finance the whole movie? I don't know how financing works but maybe they have to co-finance all their films to maintain a healthy relationship with other companies?

It did look like that at least for one of those co-financier when I looked at it was part of a large multiple movies slate investment, letting them in on the best prospect make selling harder projects much easier for sure.

[HeadShot]

10 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

https://deadline.com/2019/11/joker-sequel-no-discussions-yet-todd-phillips-no-dc-origin-villian-films-planned-1202790774/amp/#click=https://t.co/vwhBEJkUVL

 

I don’t know who to believe at this point.

read: they are pretending that there will be no sequels until the oscars are done.

[Jonwo]

23 minutes ago, Chucky said:

But surely if you know your film features the most iconic villain in the biggest genre in cinema right now and it's going to be made for a tiny budget of 50m you'd think they would take the risk and finance the whole movie? I don't know how financing works but maybe they have to co-finance all their films to maintain a healthy relationship with other companies? If they just pick and choose every film maybe it would rub the other suppliers the wrong way knowing how much profit they are missing out on.

I imagine it depends on each movie. Joker on paper was not a surefire bet and so even at $55-62m, it's better to spread the risk even if it means less profit. Even Universal uses co-financier for smaller budget films like Downton Abbey and Last Christmas. 

 

17 minutes ago, Barnack said:

It did look like that at least for one of those co-financier when I looked at it was part of a large multiple movies slate investment, letting them in on the best prospect make selling harder projects much easier for sure.

Bron I believe came onboard later on as part of Warner Bros' deal with them much like how Legendary got to finance Jurassic World as part of their deal with Universal. Village Roadshow was onboard very early on but they're also a long standing WB partner.

[SpiderByte]

Any person who bought that "I'll only do a sequel if the story is good" horseshit clearly forgot about Hangover 2.

[MrGlass2]

40 minutes ago, HeadShot said:

read: they are pretending that there will be no sequels until the oscars are done.

That's the problem when your $1 billion+ movie is winning major awards.

 

Hard to blame them for not knowing how to handle popular and awards success at the same time, that is a situation almost unheard of since LOTR.

[SpiderByte]

On the Deadline denying Joker 2 thing: Mike Fleming is a cretinous weasel who "debunks" whenever someone beats him to a story, which is hysterical considering how many times he just lifts stories from other sites and runs them as exclusives, so take his word with a grain of salt.

[WittyUsername]

6 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

On the Deadline denying Joker 2 thing: Mike Fleming is a cretinous weasel who "debunks" whenever someone beats him to a story, which is hysterical considering how many times he just lifts stories from other sites and runs them as exclusives, so take his word with a grain of salt.

Well, Variety has chimed in and said that there are no other DC villain films planned and that while there may have been some early talks of a possible sequel, there’s apparently nothing set in stone yet. 

[LaughingEvans]

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/star_wars/making-a-star-wars-film-is-difficult-due-to-a-lack-of-comics-and-novels-says-lucasfilm-president-a171739

 

Kathleen Kennedy finally admits that she and her team are creatively bankrupt.

[dudalb]

1 hour ago, WittyUsername said:

Well, Variety has chimed in and said that there are no other DC villain films planned and that while there may have been some early talks of a possible sequel, there’s apparently nothing set in stone yet. 

I suspect Variety is right;a Joker sequel is being talked about....when a film makes over a billion that is automatic, but little is known yet.

As for the rumored "Other DC VIllian " movie, if it's Lex Luthor ,given  the social comment in the Joker, Lex if going to have a hell of a lot in common with the guy currently in the White House...