DMan7 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AndyK said: Nope, what you think is irrelevant. http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/highest-box-office-film-gross-inflation-adjusted/ They spelled Avatar wrong. Edited August 21, 2018 by DMan7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 46 minutes ago, AndyK said: Gone with the Wind made $3.6bn inflation adjusted. Jim has some way to go. I checked a few adjusted greatest hits list, and on almost all of them Avatar does not even make the top ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan7 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, dudalb said: I checked a few adjusted greatest hits list, and on almost all of them Avatar does not even make the top ten. Avatar fans right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said: Yes, because the GWRB is the authority on modern economic law... what a joke. They adjust for inflation as if the world were the US and was a static object, even a person who had done Econ 101 would laugh at their "method". It is a static object. The studio knows what income it got in $US from each movie and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Doctor Doom should be a good Marvel follow up to Venom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 And anyway the whole "Avatar made more money then any other movie and therefore is the greatest movie ever made" argument is so asinine and stupid it's really not worth answering. And the whole "but this is box office site" is just a dodge to avoid talking about "Avatar" as movie instead of as an investment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCruiseTop Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, dudalb said: I checked a few adjusted greatest hits list, and on almost all of them Avatar does not even make the top ten. That's because they're measuring domestic. Here's some fun math for you folks that don't understand basic economics (and probably supported Hillary). I'm going to take the gross of Wolf Warrior 2 at 5.7B RMB in 2017. Now I'm going to convert it to dollars and adjust it for inflation (so we go from an exchange rate of 6.3 in 2017 to 1.5 in 1980 of USD to RMB (that's 0.14 dollars being worth 0.65 dollars for those that can't be bothered to do the extra math). So adjusting for inflation (and using the solid and unquestioned logic of the GWRB except from a Chinese perspective instead) Wolf Warrior 2 actually made 4,059,368,109 dollars (if released in 1980)! Isn't this fun? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCruiseTop Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, AndyK said: It is a static object. If the dollar were static then the very idea of adjusting for inflation would be nonsensical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said: "It isn't perfect" is a far cry from flat out wrong. Which adjusting for inflation and making profoundly flawed assumptions about exchange rates and the value of currency against the dollar over time, patently do. Not sure why you bring exchange rate all the time. But yes, you are just pointing out my objection about objectively the greatest director of all time there no Clearly if we cannot say how much Gone With the wind, 10 commandment, Chaplin movie that were popular all over the world including China with very little recording of it and Avatar made to compare them, how can one be objectively above the other ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCruiseTop Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, Barnack said: Clearly if we cannot say how much Gone With the wind, 10 commandment, Chaplin movie that were popular all over the world including China with very little recording of it and Avatar made to compare them, how can one be objectively above the other ? If you want to say that GwtW made $3.6B in today's dollars then you also agree with the logic above, if Wolf Warrior 2 were released in 1980 it would make over $4B (using the same flawed logic). Do you agree with this statement Barnack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said: If the dollar were static then the very idea of adjusting for inflation would be nonsensical. your talking of inflation in every country and accounting for exchange rates. Thats not what happens, its very much simpler than that because what gets inflation adjusted in the US $ made in the year it was received by the studio. It was already been converted to US$. Its not that difficult to calculate if the studio reports the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said: If you want to say that GwtW made $3.6B in today's dollars then you also agree with the logic above, if Wolf Warrior 2 were released in 1980 it would make over $4B (using the same flawed logic). Do you agree with this statement Barnack? No, its not a US studio reporting in $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCruiseTop Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, AndyK said: It was already been converted to US$. So you agree with me that Wolf Warrior 2 would make 4 Billion were it released in 1980? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCruiseTop Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, AndyK said: No, its not a US studio reporting in $. So you're saying the GWRB is excluding international releases? Huh, seems a little xenophobic to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder89 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Nomis trailer looks very good, hope Henry Cavill can have another success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 40 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said: If you want to say that GwtW made $3.6B in today's dollars then you also agree with the logic above, if Wolf Warrior 2 were released in 1980 it would make over $4B (using the same flawed logic). Do you agree with this statement Barnack? I never said an amount about Gwtw but I am really unsure what your point is. Are you saying if Wolf Warrior 2 would have 5.68 billion Yuan in 1980 would it be one of the biggest moneymaker ever ? Obviously yes it would, what is flawed about that ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 JCS is using the logical fallacy in debate called "Poisoining The Well". basically he saying that the debate itself is illigetimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, Wonder89 said: Nomis trailer looks very good, hope Henry Cavill can have another success Do they have a distributor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Craig Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, FantasticBeasts said: They discriminate against specific social groups. (Didnt just wanna focus on race) *citation needed #liberalechochambergroupthinkcomment 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I wish I liked these shows 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...