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[Barnack]

2 hours ago, terrestrial said:

In A Time When Adults Only Go To The Movies Once Or Twice A Month

Mendelson is using the word "only" in a strange way,  and downplaying what those 2 movie did, Adults go to the theater once every 3 months, around 4 time a year.

 

There is around 1.3, 1.4 billion ticket sold in a year and 360m people in the domestic market and around 240m of them go the theater at least once in a year (and teen buy a bit more by capita), if we were really in a time when adults went to the movies 18 times a year's like in the late 40s/early 50s the annual domestic box office would be around 40 billion and A Star is born box office would be nothing of note, quite the average one, we would have like 50-100 adult movie making 100/400m+ a year.

Edited December 12, 2018 by Barnack

[LaughingEvans]

Critics don't like DC because they're generally biased against bad movies. 

[Spidey Freak]

39 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Bumblebee could be the best reviewed of the Christmas releases, hehe. 

Birds of Prey RT score > Into the Spider-Verse confirmed

[Spidey Freak]

12 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

Birds of Prey RT score > Into the Spider-Verse confirmed

Which mod with zero chill threw this goofball comment into this cesspool thread?

[DeeCee]

Moderation 

 

This is a thread in which we allow a fair bit of leeway. However, please don’t go off the deep-end with critic conspiracy theories. For the sake of your own sanity and that of other members. 

 

And as always. Play nice and no personal attacks. 

 

Regards

BOT Staff

[Lothar]

8 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

Moderation 

 

This is a thread in which we allow a fair bit of leeway. However, please don’t go off the deep-end with critic conspiracy theories. For the sake of your own sanity and that of other members. 

 

And as always. Play nice and no personal attacks. 

 

Regards

BOT Staff

Will there be any thread in Which we can actually fight like MMA ?

Edited December 12, 2018 by Lothar

[HouseOfTheSun]

11 hours ago, Hades said:

 

.......No DCEU bias at all guys....

This guy also ragged on infinity war...

[Barnack]

11 hours ago, Hades said:

.......No DCEU bias at all guys....

The guys is a regular on a popular film podcast (filmspotting) I listened in the past and I would be quite surprised if he care about DC vs Marvel type of stuff. When you watch 300-400 new movies every year and not in the pundit game, there is way less obsession creeping up and he is quite old for that.

 

Look at it, I am not surprised that he gave a positive review to Man of Steel and a bad one to the last Avengers movie.

Edited December 12, 2018 by Barnack

[ZeeSoh]

11 hours ago, terrestrial said:

He gave Wonder Woman a 3.5/4 fresh and Avengers IW a 2/4 rotten = only bcs some ppl jump to conclusions in that twitter thread....

 

28 minutes ago, HouseOfTheSun said:

This guy also ragged on infinity war...

Shhhhhhhhh you’re ruining the narrative. Peddling bullshit conspiracy theories about anti- DCEU and pro-Disney bias is all some of these fanboys have going for them. Let them live in their fantasy world

[dxmatrixdt]

maybe Disney/NASA can sign Ron Howard  to direct the sequel Apollo 14: First to the Moon, or: Further Open Space Flight

Edited December 12, 2018 by nature league - matrix

[terrestrial]

6 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Shhhhhhhhh you’re ruining the narrative. Peddling bullshit conspiracy theories about anti- DCEU and pro-Disney bias is all some of these fanboys have going for them. Let them live in their fantasy world

I can understand you, but: nope

Every post like they do furthers the fanatism/blind following of mongers,.... culture. Or newbies/silent readers start to belief them bcs they get repeated so often.

Too often I have read such things by newbies and after getting pointed to some background some were really disturbed to have believed such (in the past, other forum), and BOT got mentioned too as 'source' for their impressions

 

Plus it gets boring like hell to 'have to' read too much of this immature BS scrolling through the threads on the search for news that actually have to do with the movie

[IronJimbo]

2 hours ago, DeeCee said:

Moderation 

 

This is a thread in which we allow a fair bit of leeway. However, please don’t go off the deep-end with critic conspiracy theories. For the sake of your own sanity and that of other members. 

 

And as always. Play nice and no personal attacks. 

 

Regards

BOT Staff

Yes play nice and be respectful... however. Critics are too nice to Disney films compared to others. This part isnt a conspiracy it can be shown with by plotting audience scores vs critic scores.

Edited December 12, 2018 by IronJimbo

[AndyK]

Mods protecting critics = Mods are anti DC.

 

Thats my conspiracy theory for the day.

[movieboner]

I want both franchises to be successful. I hope the fanboy wars and attack on critics will end, and the DCEU will have bigger box office earnings. 

[Barnack]

43 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Yes play nice and be respectful... however. Critics are too nice to Disney films compared to others. This part isnt a conspiracy it can be shown with by plotting audience scores vs critic scores.

 

Can I have your excel sheet/link, sound possible:

 

Disney

Average MC score: 61

Average audience score: 6.64

Audience gave 108.8% the average critic score

 

Universal

Average MC score: 52.87

Average Audience score: 5.96

Audience gave 112.7% the average critic score

 

Paramount

Average MC score: 54.61

Average Audience score: 6.18

Audience gave 113% the average critic score

 

Fox

Average MC score: 52.88

Average Audience score: 6.1

Correlation: .75

Audience gave 115% the average critic score

 

Warner

Average MC score: 52.73

Average Audience score: 6.39

Audience gave 121% the average critic score

 

Sony

Average MC score: 47.72

Average Audience score: 5.911

Audience gave 124% the average critic score

 

Would like to adjust for pg-13 vs R and Animation vs Live action (pixar 80.5 average MC score is one reason Disney Score is so high and one were the audience average score isn't higher than that), also has critical score goes up it is maybe bound to happen, the MC/Audience score seem to get higher has the MC score goes now, Sony having the highest with the worst MC average, Disney the worst with the best MC average.

Edited December 12, 2018 by Barnack

[IronJimbo]

4 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

Can I have your excel sheet/link, sound possible:

 

Disney

Average MC score: 61

Average audience score: 6.64

Audience gave 108.8% the average critic score

 

Universal

Average MC score: 52.87

Average Audience score: 5.96

Audience gave 112.7% the average critic score

 

Paramount

Average MC score: 54.61

Average Audience score: 6.18

Audience gave 113% the average critic score

 

Fox

Average MC score: 52.88

Average Audience score: 6.1

Correlation: .75

Audience gave 115% the average critic score

 

Warner

Average MC score: 52.73

Average Audience score: 6.39

Audience gave 121% the average critic score

 

Sony

Average MC score: 47.72

Average Audience score: 5.911

Audience gave 124% the average critic score

 

Would like to adjust for pg-13 vs R and Animation vs Live action (pixar 80.5 average MC score is one reason Disney Score is so high and one were the audience average score isn't higher than that).

What time-frame is this over?

Also the live-action filter is vital as you said.

 

Edited December 12, 2018 by IronJimbo

[Barnack]

1 minute ago, IronJimbo said:

What time-frame is this over?

It was rapidly and lazy made without a web creeper/script or anything, just copy pasted the 100 last entry on MC by studio (the max you can easily by having metacrtiic in 100 by page mode)

 

So it depend of the release volume and how studio division is handled by the website.

 

For Disney it was from 2007 to now, Paramount was from Iron Man 3 in 2013 to now, WB Blind Side in 2009 to now, etc... Studio release between 12 to 20 movie a year.

 

 

[terrestrial]

Just now, Barnack said:

It was rapidly and lazy made without a web creeper/script or anything, just copy pasted the 100 last entry on MC by studio (the max you can easily by having metacrtiic in 100 by page mode)

 

So it depend of the release volume and how studio division is handled by the website.

 

For Disney it was from 2007 to now, Paramount was from Iron Man 3 in 2013 to now, WB Blind Side in 2009 to now, etc... Studio release between 12 to 20 movie a year.

Please save this somewhere and repost it every time someone again writes one of those $%&§$ posts about bias against or pro complete studios or so

 

Or,.. hmmmm maybe this should get added into the 'what you always wanted to know...' thingie Baumer once did?

 

Any mod here? A post recommendation?

[IronJimbo]

2 minutes ago, Barnack said:

It was rapidly and lazy made without a web creeper/script or anything, just copy pasted the 100 last entry on MC by studio (the max you can easily by having metacrtiic in 100 by page mode)

 

So it depend of the release volume and how studio division is handled by the website.

 

For Disney it was from 2007 to now, Paramount was from Iron Man 3 in 2013 to now, WB Blind Side in 2009 to now, etc... Studio release between 12 to 20 movie a year.

 

 

I would start from 2012 onwards, would be interesting to see Disney's increase in critic score overtime relatively to it's audience score.

[Barnack]

1 minute ago, IronJimbo said:

I would start from 2012 onwards, would be interesting to see Disney's increase in critic score overtime relatively to it's audience score.

I think it is somewhat well known that MC score went up over time (between 2010 and now), would need to do it because it is bound to be the case for all studio if voters didn't change.

 

3 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

Please save this somewhere and repost it every time someone again writes one of those $%&§$ posts about bias against or pro complete studios or so

 

Well the number at first look do show that it could be true (Has Sony average audience score relative to the critics score could be significantly bigger than Disney), it would need to be adjusted for the release date of the movie, type of movie, MPAA rating, amount of vote/reviews, etc... And even if the audience score / reviews does not match up, that would not automatically tell us about bias and the random sample would always be a bit low.