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2 hours ago, Barnack said:

Even on non-giant movie, if your have horse/cars/etc... involved you get serious help to keep it safe and actually do it.

 

Main SFX guy often also act as the director.

 

But there is a difference between directing them or not and not actively participating in there design, goal and so on.

Fact is, a lot of the credit for the great action sequncers goes to the Second Unit Directors,who are often specialist in action sequences.

The director stills makes a huge contribution to the action scenes, because he cuts (along with the film editor) the final sequence.

 

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17 minutes ago, JGAR4LIFE said:

That goes against just about everything we have been hearing.nothing against Momoa but I doubt that he is privy to what is going on at the top levels of Warners management.

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19 minutes ago, JGAR4LIFE said:

Good. It doesn't make sense for WB to continue with the DC Universe and not have Superman. I never believe these rumors. Bloggers need to stop lying and trying to hurt DC. Will they ever stop?

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"The first thing I asked them was maybe if they could change the special effects because there's so many laser lights... I find them horrible. Also the soundtrack of Marvel films is quite horrendous. Maybe we disagree on this but it's really hard to watch a Marvel film. It's painful to the ears to watch Marvel films."

 

5 hours ago, terrestrial said:

I 'hear' a difference between not liking the soundtracks of MCU movies (some are a bit boring - in parts at least - o my ears) and them being 'painful/horrendous', but that is only my opinion

I guess the laser light remark was about past MCU movies, not as part of the script.

Can't explain why I guess that

Aem, I am not surprised she didn't get the job

 

1 hour ago, terrestrial said:

I read that too.

Not to me
 

I am female, I am all for more females,... but:

she stated: the first question she asked,..... was not about what they imagine/aim for, or which characters are legal usable or..., it was an indirect and immediate 'condemnation' of the existing material, the dismissal of details the others want - maybe

like there might have been  already ideas, reasons for a certain style,... an already cast / booked stunt / whatever or bcs her resume didn't show any fights, or the person(s) before her was nervous about that, or..... e.g. Scarlett Johansson want to do / create those or,..

to me it doesn't sound like its a 100% thing that she wouldn't be allowed to at least add to it, to show with e.g. a scene that she can do it (acc to IMDb she has no resume for fights/action at all).

Why didn't she asked that as a first question, the reasons why? Or,...

If she doesn't like the style of an MCU, why would they (MCU) bother to try it with her and the other way around, why did she even spoke with them about it?

 

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I do belief that the studios in general (the title is a bit of a click-bait incl the intro, she seems to have said Marvel and other such production houses - to my non native ears her formulations sounds a bit strange) will be sceptical about that, in their place I would also be sceptical about a male director who never did action,.... that should be spoken about, how to get them (no matter the gender) the experience (special workshop????), how to reduce the gap

 

 

3 hours ago, MrGlass2 said:

That part is hilarious and so revealing:

"Visionary" film-making at its finest.

see above

8 hours ago, AndyK said:

BS (I am female, see my posts above, I would not give her that part)

8 hours ago, Hades said:

:sadno: for shame Marvel...Not as woke as they think...

see above (including that her wording was NOT that this a Marvel typical only thing)

7 hours ago, Napoleon said:

That sucks. Marvel/Disney are truly evil. No wonder humanity is becoming more horrible with each generation. This company has poisoned our kids for decades. I hope activists who fight against sexism and racism realize who's the real enemy.

 

I'm glad I didn't grow up watching Disney movies or reading Marvel comics.

see above

 

Funny how fast ppl jump on the wagon without even having read that ... click-bait 'article'

 

Please read up her resume at IMDb, as said in the post above, she has no movie with fights nor action in her resume and other reasons why I as a female and fighter for more females,.... would NOT give her the job for that too

 

I do not care if that is Marvel, DC or Mission Impossible, Bond Bourne or whichever franchise, studios do NOT give those kind of really important / moneymaking details like the typical action into the hands of someone who has not a lot of experience, or even worse, no experience at all.

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9 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

I do not care if that is Marvel, DC or Mission Impossible, Bond Bourne or whichever franchise, studios do NOT give those kind of really important / moneymaking details like the typical action into the hands of someone who has not a lot of experience, or even worse, no experience at all.

 

But that an important part, even people with some experience say a Nolan leave a lot of the details to the stunts, SFX/VFX experts, how much of the details Marvel take care of is important.

 

Do you enter a project, 3 set piece are already decided and pre-production on them in route with most of the decisions taken and do a movie around them that connect those event as a director level ?

 

Or the director make is movies, sit with artist/pro to do the pre-viz with them with the writer/director describing what they want and the technical specialist telling them in a feedback if it is possible, what is possible, what it mean cost wise and take charge of executing it ?

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18 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

Good. It doesn't make sense for WB to continue with the DC Universe and not have Superman. I never believe these rumors. Bloggers need to stop lying and trying to hurt DC. Will they ever stop?

Still with the Anti DC Conspiracy crap, I see..........

 

 

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19 hours ago, Premium George said:

Barnack destroyed iron jimbo with facts and logic. 

What amused me is if critics really are biased in favor of Disney released movies,(which I think is a bunch of BS) why is Iron Jimbo upset about it?

In a few months James Cameron..at least as far as the Avatar franchise goes... will be part of the Disney family, and that means the critics will be biased in favor of Cameron's movies....

Iron Jimbo is having problems reconciling his blind worship of anything to do with James Cameron with his hatred of Disney,since 'Avatar" will be a Disney franchise by the time Avatar 2 is released. Any contracts Cameron had with Fox automatically transfere to Disney.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

But that an important part, even people with some experience say a Nolan leave a lot of the details to the stunts, SFX/VFX experts, how much of the details Marvel take care of is important.

 

Do you enter a project, 3 set piece are already decided and pre-production on them in route with most of the decisions taken and do a movie around them that connect those event as a director level ?

 

Or the director make is movies, sit with artist/pro to do the pre-viz with them with the writer/director describing what they want and the technical specialist telling them in a feedback if it is possible, what is possible, what it mean cost wise and take charge of executing it ?

I think it depends a lot on the project. And how big the budget is. Hmmm and if it is part of a franchise or something new / stand alone.

= How much risk it might be for the studio too. And how much they already know the director or how the resume of the director looks like, how many big budget and  / or genres did he/she already. Broad experience or not

 

If a director has an idea, writes a pitch, goes to studios, his/her intake will be far more big in average as if a pitch already got approved and the studio start to look for the right team incl a director to contract to produce the movie. As much more bigger the budget and franchise, as much bigger will be the influence of the team and the responsibility per department (incl overseeing producers) and less the input (partly bcs of not enough time) and .. for certain details for the director.

The director will get his/her input into it, but the director of a big budget has also the on-set producers to convince, incl often enough in the editing phase.

 

A small indie, where the director is maybe even the sole producer, money organiser,... too, the director's influence will be up to absolute

Till here that all is IMHO a general situation, not a typical studio xxxyyyy situation.

 

 

They do like to team up a fresh(er) director with very experienced department xxxxx people at Marvel, some will see it as it is, a contract work for a studio, not a self-financed indie, some will not see it as such, will not sign the contract or leave later, as being not able or not willing to see a contracted to do project is not the same as an own project

It can be more if the director was the pitch living one, see above, than I think it will be a mixture of those contra situations

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41 minutes ago, dudalb said:

That goes against just about everything we have been hearing.nothing against Momoa but I doubt that he is privy to what is going on at the top levels of Warners management.

From what I understand he is saying Cavill will not step away from the roles, saying nothing about what WB will do.

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9 minutes ago, Barnack said:

From what I understand he is saying Cavill will not step away from the roles, saying nothing about what WB will do.

Cavill won't throw the towel (like in boxing). It's not about the studio's POV = correct?

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18 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

Cavill won't throw the towel (like in boxing). It's not about the studio's POV = correct?

How long can he hang around and turn down projects if DC is not planning a Superman movie in the immediate future?

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My ranking for 2018 superhero movies:

 

1. Ant-man and the Wasp (8.0)

2. Deadpool 2 (7.0)

3. Venom (5.0)

4. Infinity War (4.0)

5. Black Panther (4.0)

6. Aquaman (3.0)

 

Very bad year for comic book movies actually and honestly I don't expect much from 2019 either, the next one I'm looking forward is Wonder Woman 2.

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14 minutes ago, TMP said:

Definitive Superhero universes ranking

Sony's Spider-Man Animated Universe >> MCU >>>Fox-Men CU>>> DCEU >>>>>>>>>>> SUMC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arrowverse

Is this referring to TV shows and stuff, or the Into the Spiderverse universe? If the latter, dunno about calling it a “universe” just yet with only 1 movie.

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4 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

Is this referring to TV shows and stuff, or the Into the Spiderverse universe? If the latter, dunno about calling it a “universe” just yet with only 1 movie.

Yeah,one film whose fate at the box office is undetermined does not a franchise make.

I note that even some people who loved Into the Spiderverse are concerned it might be just too "geeky" for the General Audience.

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1 minute ago, nature league - matrix said:

but the anti-DC conspiracies could have started with the mild audience reception...  🤣

Peoblem I have with a lot of fanboys is the whole "HOW DARE YOU NOT LOVE THE THINGS I LOVE" attitude they have.

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