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22 hours ago, Thanos Legion said:

I guess Red Sox fans didn’t “win the World Series” either. I mean they aren’t actually a part of the team.    

 

C’mon man, this is a pretty high level of being deliberately obtuse.

Has movie fandom at a sport level is actually a thing that exist ? It does seem to, people using word like we and winning like a fandom.

 

Has irrational sport fandom can be, at least there is usually a people represented, a city, a country being put on the map on the line and most of all it is a zero sum game (if a team win it mean an other loose) and actual rules to determine a champion with winning being the goal of the game, games that tend to look like if a tribe had the chance to look at their hunters going to their hunts and that the competition and the winning can be enjoyed in person among peoples getting drunk.

 

You do not find quite gringe inducing to read people using word like we, winning, them, us, proud, etc... when talking about movies ? That pushing it quite a bit, it is not a zero sum games, Avengers doing well do not mean the next DC movie will not do well (can even be the other way around).

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1 hour ago, Barnack said:

Has movie fandom at a sport level is actually a thing that exist ? It does seem to, people using word like we and winning like a fandom

Well, some sports fans get CRAZY. Like, really, really, really, crazy. I hope there aren’t any movie fans to match the full extreme of sports fandom.    

 

But don’t need to be similar in degree for my point, just in nature. People are happy when the team/franchise they’ve chosen to root for is doing well (whether in absolute or relative terms) — even though they have no direct e.g. financial stake in that success, as TMP pointed out.   

 

As for the rest, you don’t need objective rules or zero-sum for fans to exist. It would be quite surprising if there weren’t movie fan in that way, liking to see things that you like succeed is just basic human nature.

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2 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

Black Panther won three Oscars. More than even Dark Knight. 

 

Which will make next year interesting when Joker likely loses everything it's up for except maybe Actor and maybe Makeup.

Again no meaningful gold. And dont bring up the dark Knight. We both know that Dark knight deserves more oscars than BP.

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1 hour ago, The Chad DC said:

Again no meaningful gold. And dont bring up the dark Knight. We both know that Dark knight deserves more oscars than BP.

Lol at "no meaningful gold".. what a clown comment. Safe to say Nolan himself would dismiss such nonsense, considering he was impressed enough to hire one of those Oscar winners to work on his upcoming movie. 

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1 hour ago, The Chad DC said:

Again no meaningful gold. And dont bring up the dark Knight. We both know that Dark knight deserves more oscars than BP.

So Oscars don't matter but Dark Knight deserved to win more? Which is it?

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3 hours ago, The Chad DC said:

Again no meaningful gold. And dont bring up the dark Knight. We both know that Dark knight deserves more oscars than BP.

Deserves got nothing to do with it... :ph34r:

 

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The Joker is the movie you will talk about to your grand kids by the fire at the end of this century :

 

" son, I have a story to tell, in October 2019, everything changed, nothing was ever the same, it was a new era, a new age, the Todd Phillips age ..."

 

The Joker is a leap forward in filmmaking.

 

From now on, any new movie will have to stand up against Todd Phillips genius.

 

Good luck everyone.

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12 hours ago, Barnack said:

Has movie fandom at a sport level is actually a thing that exist ? It does seem to, people using word like we and winning like a fandom.

 

Box office would be pretty boring to follow if a person didn’t have a rooting interest. The same applies to any awards shows. The whole appeal is to care about who wins. And the only way to care is to be a fan. The word “fan” is actually an abbreviation for “fanatic.”

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5 hours ago, LaughingEvans said:

Why can't we all get along and just shit on Star Wars and Harry Potter?

Man I miss the days when it was  @baumer against the world and his stanning of Transformers and Twilight.  He never faltered! 

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Can't believe I am alive while Todd Phillips makes movies.

 

#Blessed

#Humbled

#Honored

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8 hours ago, The Futurist said:

The Joker is a leap forward in filmmaking.

Not sure that is the case, but the Golden Lion is definitely a huge leap forward for the genre in respectability. It shows that even superhero movies can be considered art if the director is free to follow his personal creative vision instead of copying a CGI fest formula.

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8 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

Not sure that is the case, but the Golden Lion is definitely a huge leap forward for the genre in respectability. It shows that even superhero movies can be considered art if the director is free to follow his personal creative vision instead of copying a CGI fest formula.

But Joker isn’t really a superhero movie, is it? 

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10 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

Not sure that is the case, but the Golden Lion is definitely a huge leap forward for the genre in respectability. It shows that even superhero movies can be considered art if the director is free to follow his personal creative vision instead of copying a CGI fest formula.

Joker is not a superhero movie. It's not even an action movie. Please. Lol It was intended to cater exactly to the film festival crowd. Making a superhero movie that also happens to appeal to film nerds is far more impressive.

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10 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

But Joker isn’t really a superhero movie, is it? 

No, it's a supervillain movie. 😉

 

It falls under the broad category of a CBM in a similar way that Road To Perdition, Kingsman  or even say Cowboys&Aliens. All were first published as either a comic series or collected edition by a publisher in the industry. 

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2 hours ago, Walt Disney said:

Box office would be pretty boring to follow if a person didn’t have a rooting interest. The same applies to any awards shows. The whole appeal is to care about who wins. And the only way to care is to be a fan. The word “fan” is actually an abbreviation for “fanatic.”

Sure but to the point of using "we", did anyone say we won after someone else won an Oscar ? And for studios-franchise ?

 

I fully get the interest, rooting, but the inclusion of one self in the success-failure do seem like something that must be new.

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18 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Sure but to the point of using "we", did anyone say we won after someone else won an Oscar ? And for studios-franchise ?

 

I fully get the interest, rooting, but the inclusion of one self in the success-failure do seem like something that must be new.

You have conflated your example, an individual actors win, with a fandom/genre win.

To say it another way, you have an apples vs oranges comparison.

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13 hours ago, Ororo Munroe said:

Lol at "no meaningful gold".. what a clown comment. Safe to say Nolan himself would dismiss such nonsense, considering he was impressed enough to hire one of those Oscar winners to work on his upcoming movie. 

Again no meaningful gold. If awards for design are that important, then f me suicide squad is better than citizen kane.

12 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

So Oscars don't matter but Dark Knight deserved to win more? Which is it?

Nice try at trying change what I said. Meaningful categories do. TDK deserved to win best picture.

11 hours ago, Nero said:

Deserves got nothing to do with it... :ph34r:

 

Looks like I hit a nerve. If that were the case, then How green is my valley is better than citizen kane, green book is better than the roma, and slumdog millionaire is better than TDK. Deserves finds truth and worthiness amongst the Acamedy's BS.

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2 hours ago, Ororo Munroe said:

Joker is not a superhero movie. It's not even an action movie. Please. Lol It was intended to cater exactly to the film festival crowd. Making a superhero movie that also happens to appeal to film nerds is far more impressive.

What are you saying here? Are you really attempting to undermine Joker's triumph at Venice? Lmao. I will be suprised if another CBM enters Venice, let alone ever wins the golden lion again.

 

Enjoy the moment. CBMs will never get more legitimized. In a decade, people will look back at this era as the one that killed the value of cinema.

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2 hours ago, The Chad DC said:

What are you saying here? Are you really attempting to undermine Joker's triumph at Venice? Lmao. I will be suprised if another CBM enters Venice, let alone ever wins the golden lion again.

 

Enjoy the moment. CBMs will never get more legitimized. In a decade, people will look back at this era as the one that killed the value of cinema.

Undermine Joker's triumph? Lol. No point is, Joker is not some groundbreaking superhero movie. It's not offering anything new or different. Logan did dark and serious without this level of blatant awards season campaigning. But I understand why you feel the need to prop Joker.

 

2 hours ago, The Chad DC said:

Again no meaningful gold. If awards for design are that important, then f me suicide squad is better than citizen kane.

Dismissing your silly argument is not tantamount to saying a movie is better or more important than another.  But going by your logic, I can now laugh at all the fanboys who fawn over Hans Zimmer and claim that he should have multiple Oscars. 

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