TomCruiseTop Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, terrestrial said: And that is it from my side, I see no sense in continuing this.... farce. Of course not, the last bastion of bigots is always to want discussion to end. And I apologize for conflating your position with r101s, you did indeed not defend the censorship. We will have to agree to disagree on Moore's position, although I would implore you to look into the man's politics, he really is an ardent defender of those who often do not get a place to speak, or even be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, JamesCameronScholar said: I never said the latter, and it is dehumanizing by definition. We are portrayed as mice just as the Nazi's did, he's literally taking inspiration directly from Nazi propaganda. I understand the arguments that people have made in the past that AS is attempting to reclaim that from them, but it just doesn't fly with me. The holocaust was a deeply human affair, and one that I think to portray those who suffered and those who committed the atrocities as merely animals is deeply wrong. Your quote (and I'm sorry to say I have not read the book it is from) I don't disagree with, apart from the 'authentic' part, I don't see how anyone could believe an analogy using animals could in anyway be truly authentic - and I would point anyone who believes so to the plethora of writings by actual holocaust survivors - of which I think Primo Levi to be one that really captures a truly authentic experience. (Although, I also concede that my own view is obviously skewed by my own background as an American Ashkenazim). To be clear I was not stating that anyone who likes the comic is an anti-Semite, I was merely pointing out what I see to be the profound misstep that I think AS took when he dehumanized the human beings involved. That is fair I guess. I still disagree with your interpretation and criticism of Spiegelman's use of rodents as Jews but art is meant to be interpreted differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingEvans Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, terrestrial said: Not sure how far she can be connected to failures My 6th sense tells me she was involved in the creation of Vice Admiral Tumblr Holdo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, LaughingEvans said: My 6th sense tells me she was involved in the creation of Vice Admiral Tumblr Holdo. What is the second or third failure you see? (I still have not seen The Last Jedi btw, might watch it later depending on details about the next one.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingEvans Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 TLJ and Solo. Rogue One was really good. TFA was simply passable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, LaughingEvans said: TLJ and Solo. Rogue One was really good. TFA was simply passable. See the listed titles, I am not sure how far her involvement was with Solo, didn't found her listed for it. Hence the reason I asked why the plural form. (Plus beside its budget chaos / re-shoots I actually like (like is not love) Solo, as a small additional story, even if I still question some decisions) I'd really like to know who caused what with that one and the whys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertman2 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Rogue One is hot garbage. Holdo is a better character than everyone from Rogue One. These are facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingEvans Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, RobrtmanAStarWarsReference said: Rogue One is hot garbage. Holdo is a better character than everyone from Rogue One. These are facts 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just noticed that Civil War is now a below average grossing Phase 3 film domestically. That is whack. Decent chance it ends up as a below Average grossing Phase 3 film WW, which would be extra whack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Moderation Just a reminder that if you are making finely nuanced arguments/points about a particular topic please try to be unambiguous with your comments. Please read your comment before posting to ensure that it is clear and concise and does not unintentionally insult or disparage another member. Let’s try and avoid hyperbole and sweeping generalisations. Regards BOT Staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, RobrtmanAStarWarsReference said: Rogue One is hot garbage. Holdo is a better character than everyone from Rogue One. These are facts Rogue one was a character with a female lead, a Muslim actor and 2 Asian guys and was well received by the SW fanbase. TLJ was less diverse in comparison but the backlash to it has been dismissed as sexist and racist. Edited January 31, 2019 by Lordmandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 21 hours ago, RobrtmanAStarWarsReference said: Rogue One is hot garbage. Holdo is a better character than everyone from Rogue One. These are facts Alternative facts perhaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 The ending of Rogue One was fantastic but the rest of the movie was insufferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 The Last Jedi is the best of these new Star Wars films, and never gets beyond the point of passable quality wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, TMP said: The Last Jedi is the best of these new Star Wars films, and never gets beyond the point of passable quality wise Revenge of the Sith is far more entertaining then the Last Jedi even if it nowhere as well made 'technically" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Lordmandeep said: Revenge of the Sith is far more entertaining then the Last Jedi even if it nowhere as well made 'technically" nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Marvel - DC - Fox - Sony - Sony/MarvelMarch 8, 2019 - Captain MarvelApril 5, 2019 - Shazam!April 12, 2019 - HellboyApril 26, 2019 - Avengers: EndgameJune 7, 2019 - Dark PhoenixJuly 5, 2019 - Spider-Man: Far From HomeAugust 2, 2019 - New MutantsOctober 4, 2019 - JokerFebruary 7, 2020 - Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn)March 13, 2020 - GambitApril 3, 2020 - Untitled DC FilmMay 1, 2020 - Untitled Marvel FilmJune 5, 2020 - Wonder Woman 1984June 26, 2020 - Untitled Fox/Marvel FilmJuly 24, 2020 - Untitled DC FilmJuly 31, 2020 - Sony/Marvel Morbius FilmOctober 2, 2020 - Untitled Fox/Marvel FilmOctober 2, 2020 - Untitled Sony/Marvel Sequel (Venom 2)November 6, 2020 - Untitled Marvel FilmFebruary 12, 2021 - Untitled Marvel FilmMarch 5, 2021 - Untitled Fox/Marvel FilmMay 7, 2021 - Untitled Marvel FilmJune 25, 2021 - Batman FilmAugust 6, 2021 - Suicide Squad SequelNovember 5, 2021 - Untitled Marvel FilmFebruary 18, 2022 - Untitled Marvel FilmMay 6, 2022 - Untitled Marvel FilmJuly 29, 2022 - Untitled Marvel Film 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGAR4LIFE Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 ^Gambit and any Fox Marvel film after 2021 are dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingEvans Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 That birds of pray title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Craig Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 TLJ hate is still strong with so many. It is a solid movie on many fronts. I've never seen such tirades and cliches that make so many look like the parent living basement dwellers of the stereotype than over TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...