OncomingStorm93 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 JJ fucked it up. How the Stormtroopers land even one shot on target. Despicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyLL Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Just now, warriormonk said: This is spot on. Also editing and pacing. Basically at an execution level I was never worried. The story was always the big issue for me. It delivered in many ways but wow did they leave a lot of stuff hanging. I think this is the least stand alone Star Wars movie I have seen. ESB was a cliffhanger, yes, but not only was TFA a cliffhanger, it left a massive amount of info about the galaxy and some of the characters unanswered. I thought the pacing was fantastic. A lot of 'edge of the seat' action with plenty of times to sit back and recovery for the next one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 The movie never really dragged, some people have having issues with the middle act, I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 If I have pacing issues it's that the movie needed to slow down a little 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebody85 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, Darth AndyLL said: I thought the pacing was fantastic. A lot of 'edge of the seat' action with plenty of times to sit back and recovery for the next one. Completely agree. The pacing was so much better then another recent blockbuster that was based off a book that shall not be mentioned here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Just now, tribefan695 said: If I have pacing issues it's that the movie needed to slow down a little Yeah, there s actually a lot of info dump throughout the movie, it s exhausting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, Darth AndyLL said: I thought the pacing was fantastic. A lot of 'edge of the seat' action with plenty of times to sit back and recovery for the next one. Completely agree. The pacing was so much better then another recent blockbuster that was based off a book that shall not be mentioned here... The Martian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SofNascimento Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I was impressed by how disappointed I was at this film, I wasn't particulary excited to see, not more than any other film anyway, but it just felt empty to me. The Galaxy felt small and everything that happened felt without consequence. I did like the characters though, and I had may fair share of goosebumps. I certainly didn't dislike it... but I was expecting more than a New New Hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theStun Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I will say I also loved how Han and Leia named him Ben which I'm assuming is in honor of good old Ben Kenobi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warriormonk Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 6 minutes ago, SofNascimento said: I was impressed by how disappointed I was at this film, I wasn't particulary excited to see, not more than any other film anyway, but it just felt empty to me. The Galaxy felt small and everything that happened felt without consequence. I did like the characters though, and I had may fair share of goosebumps. I certainly didn't dislike it... but I was expecting more than a New New Hope. They definitely did not bother with the greater political state of the galaxy. My hope is that they had too much to do with setting up the new characters and we are going to see a lot more of that in the next movies. really this movie was probably 20-30 minutes too short. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Ok, finally home. I think JJ did an excellent job and I think he made some really logical choices that people might not be thinking of based on emotion. He really get's the characters!!! Han's death - this is incredibly anti poetic if you think of it. Through the series, Han has been running from emotional connections. Why do you think he wanted to just drop Luke off in ANH and leave. Or how he says "I know" back to Leia instead of "I love you too". Remember how he wanted to leave right before the battle for Hoth? We've seen throughout the series his transformation from being "Solo" to actually have friends he loved...so it's completely fitting how when he finally embraces his emotional side that it's his undoing. On top of this, I think this is the first time he ACTUALLY listens to Leia when she says "bring our son home" instead of fighting her wishes again like he always does. Kylo's personality - I heard some complaints walking out of the movie theater that he was too whiny and was like a spoiled teenager. Well, think about it this way...his father sent him off to train with his uncle at what I would suppose was a very young age. On top of this, we have Han who again isn't "Mr emotions". It's completely believable that Kylo would be almost a baby emotionally since he has so much resentment for his parents and no reference for how a man deals with emotions. Also, if you think about it.....doesn't Kylo's personality somewhat echo another Jedi's personality who turned to the dark side? Like Hayden...I mean like grandfather like grandson. Luke - ok, we got like 20 seconds of him...but there was a lot of thought behind it. If he "showed up" and saved Rey...do you think she would have continued down the path and have her true "awakening moment" as a Jedi? No! if you remember, she didn't want to initially take Luke's lightsaber and just wanted to go back to her planet and continue with just being normal. She needed to save herself to go down the path she was destined for. This makes the last scene so impactful. It shows her going out of her way to a remote planet in order to find Luke. This is a complete 180...showing that she's actively "pursuing" her destiny instead of running away from it. It's her "coming of age". Last point is the lightsaber battles. People are thinking "Oh, you could just pick up a lightsaber and use it". Well, if you think about it....Rey had her staff throughout the movie and showed skill with it when she was attacked right when meeting Finn. It's definitely believable that she would be good with a lightsaber and able to keep up with Kylo who most likely betrayed Luke before becoming adept himself. This is why the lightsaber battles are so sloppy....so animalistic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire of Themyscira Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I'm fucking SNATCHED by Daisy's acting in this. You know when someone who just has "it?" That was her performance for me. Just a great presence and command of the film really. Loved her. Boyega was stellar too. They had amazing chemistry together. As I've said, Isaac was great, but he could have used much more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I am sure Riley s big Force moment in the forrest (not the lightsaber, after) will have some explanations in the sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Thank you Andy and Goldenstate5! You gave me the 999 and 1000 likes! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Numbers, we're home. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire of Themyscira Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) 3 minutes ago, stripe said: Thank you Andy and Goldenstate5! You gave me the 999 and 1000 likes! There's your 1001th like, cupcake! Also, I fucking LIVED for Rey's arc. If there's any role I'd love to have from recent hits, Amy Dunne is one, and Rey is another. Loved ha. But Rey's quick understanding and grasp of the Force wasn't out of the blue to me, at all. Honestly, a lot of those complaints might stem from sexism. Edited December 18, 2015 by Claire Evans Holt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Luke was able to use the Force in the OT without training. He didn't have a lightsaber fight though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 We saw briefly Rey as a child close to the force. Maybe she learned things about the force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebody85 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 23 minutes ago, tribefan695 said: The Martian? Its title is a bird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SofNascimento Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Thinking about it, maybe the force was reaching to her more strongly than it's general the case. Surely she is probably a Skywalker and that alone made her incredible powerful in the Force, but so was Kylo Ren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
